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Re: Dendritic Flux Avalanche vs. Dendritic Ridges?

Unread postby folaht » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:09 am

Aw drat.. well at least they're not lava flows as it seems NASA think they are.

Looks like earth has them, mars has them, the moon doesn't, unless I missed something. So which other planets/moon have them?

Hyperion has them
http://ciclops.org/view/1513/Hyperion_Raw_Preview_8

Dione just might have them
http://www.ciclops.org/view/1574/Dione_Raw_Preview_7

Iapetus is as smooth as a baby
http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=3770
http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=3761
http://www.ciclops.org/view/3798/Closes ... of_Iapetus

Rhea seems to have them too, but not in every picture I encountered here's two where I did see them:
http://ciclops.org/view/1705
http://www.ciclops.org/view/3731/Rheas_Pop-up_Crater
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Re: Dendritic Flux Avalanche vs. Dendritic Ridges?

Unread postby GaryN » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:53 pm

After looking at this image, I can have no belief in what NASA or any other 'experts' say about the geological formations on Mars or other planets/bodies. This whole (hole?) feature has been created electrically. You can see the height of some of the ridges by their shadows:

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/mar ... hus_H1.jpg
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Mixup

Unread postby Lloyd » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:24 pm

- It's funny that Mars, which is 4300 miles in diameter, can have a basin or crater 5300 by 6600 miles in diameter. They'd have to take the whole surface of Mars and put it on a flat surface for those figures to work. I think they should use a different term besides diameter, but I don't know what it should be. Does anyone work with spherical geometry and know what term should be used?
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Re: NASA Spacecraft Reveal Largest Crater in Solar System

Unread postby Solar » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:21 pm

That story is another perfect example of what Fred Hoyle said when addressing the preconditioned state of astrophysics: 'They already know what they are looking for so they just put it in there.'
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Magnetic clues from "impact" craters

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Re: Mixup

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Re: Dendritic Flux Avalanche vs. Dendritic Ridges?

Unread postby MGmirkin » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:01 am

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Re: Dendritic Flux Avalanche vs. Dendritic Ridges?

Unread postby MGmirkin » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:08 am

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Re: NASA Spacecraft Reveal Largest Crater in Solar System

Unread postby MGmirkin » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:19 am

Shouldn't an impact that big create a hell of a pushed up and out crater rim, and/or fracture the planet like the dickens? Do we see any such fracturing going on? Do we see any such pinched up rim, as with other "impacts?"

Hmm... Me no thinkie it makie any sense!

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Re: NASA Spacecraft Reveal Largest Crater in Solar System

Unread postby Joe Keenan » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:10 am

If the crater in question is assumed to be an impact crater, some questions:

1. Could the planet survive an inpact of something this large? If not, why isn't Mars now part of the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter?

2. If an impact crater, shouldn't there be proof of this on the other side of the planet? Corloriss (sp) effect and all.

3. If the result of an electrical discharge, would there be proof of that on the otherside of the planet? Is the crater made by electricity leaving different from the crater made by Corloriss effect?
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Re: Dendritic Flux Avalanche vs. Dendritic Ridges?

Unread postby GaryN » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:56 am

Optically challenged orbiters.

In this image of Noctis Labyrinthus there is an interesting object in the lower left corner, a white circular formation. I'd really like to see what it is, but can find no higher resolution images.


http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/mar ... hus_H1.jpg

In reading about optical resolution:


(from livescience.com)

Earth orbiting military:

Optical image reconnaissance satellites use a charge coupled device (CCD) to gather images that make up a digital photograph for transmission back to Earth from an altitude of about 200 miles. Since the satellites are in orbit, they cannot hover over a given area or provide real-time video of a single location.

The black and white images are used by the military and civilian communities. Many of the details about this class of satellites remain classified, but it is known that there are several of these overhead at any given time. They have an imaging resolution of 5-6 inches, which means they can see something 5 inches or larger on the ground. These satellites probably can't read your house number, but they can tell whether there is a bike parked in your driveway.

(from ESA)

Mars Orbiting...

The image size from the nominal pericenter altitude of 300 km (i.e. the closest distance to Mars in orbit) is 62 km wide and at least 330 km long.

The unique instrument combines high precision optics and modern CCDs controlled by high-speed electronics including on-line data compression up to a ratio of 20:1. During the nominal mission of two earth years the HRSC will cover 50% of the Martian surface simultaneously at a spatial resolution of 12-15 m/pixel. Also, more than 70% of the surface will be observed at a spatial resolution of better than 30 m/pixel. With these resolutions the HRSC will close the gap between medium to low-resolution and the very high resolution images provided by NASA Mars missions and will thus complete the orbital high-resolution optical reconnaissance of Mars.

If earth orbiting optics can see down to 5 inches, from 200 miles, through the atmosphere, then why do Mars orbiting optics, from roughly the same altitude, with very little atmospherics, only resolve to 12-15 meters?
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Re: Magnetic clues from "impact" craters

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Re: NASA Spacecraft Reveal Largest Crater in Solar System

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