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Paleomagnetism of Vredefort: Plasma, Lightning, or ?
Hart, R (hart@schonlan.src.wits.ac.za) , University of Witwatersrand, Schonland Research Center, P. Bag 3, Johannesburg, Wits 2050 South Africa
* Carporzen, L (lcarpo@ipgp.jussieu.fr) , Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, Laboratoire de Paleomagnetisme, 4 place Jussieu, PARIS, 75005 France
Gilder, S (gilder@ipgp.jussieu.fr) , Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, Laboratoire de Paleomagnetisme, 4 place Jussieu, PARIS, 75005 France
Our recent article (Carporzen et al., 2005) suggested that a turbulent plasma field created during the first few seconds of the ~10 km-diameter meteorite impact at Vredefort led to extremely strong and randomly oriented magnetic vectors in shocked granite-gneisses containing magnetite that formed during the impact event 2 billion years ago. Impact dykes and pseudotachylites that cooled days to years after the impact have coherent magnetization components with north-Northeast declinations and downward (50°) inclinations, and with magnetic intensities similar to volcanic rocks that form today (1 A/m). These observations led us to propose a model explaining why meteorite impact craters on Mars are associated with negative magnetic anomalies. Our article was based on 127 paleomagnetic sites collected in 2002 and 2004. We have now more than tripled our paleomagnetic collection and have performed magnetic surveys with both Cesium vapor and triaxial magnetometers. Our latest results show that lightning contributes more significantly to the paleomagnetic records than we previously supposed, yet they remain inconsistent with a thermoremanent magnetization origin. Carporzen, L., Gilder, S. A. & Hart, R. J., Palaeomagnetism of the Vredefort meteorite crater and implications for craters on Mars. Nature 435, 198 - 201 (2005).
Lloyd wrote:- It's funny that Mars, which is 4300 miles in diameter, can have a basin or crater 5300 by 6600 miles in diameter. They'd have to take the whole surface of Mars and put it on a flat surface for those figures to work. I think they should use a different term besides diameter, but I don't know what it should be. Does anyone work with spherical geometry and know what term should be used?
GaryN wrote:After looking at this image, I can have no belief in what NASA or any other 'experts' say about the geological formations on Mars or other planets/bodies. This whole (hole?) feature has been created electrically. You can see the height of some of the ridges by their shadows:
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/mar ... hus_H1.jpg
GaryN wrote:After looking at this image, I can have no belief in what NASA or any other 'experts' say about the geological formations on Mars or other planets/bodies.
If the result of an electrical discharge, would there be proof of that on the otherside of the planet? Is the crater made by electricity leaving different from the crater made by Corloriss effect?
FS3 wrote:... Make an impressive, expensive videoanimation visualizing your exquisite "rece-pee" and call your local PR-agent for shouting the biiiig news all over the shivering globe! ...
StevenO wrote:NASA Spacecraft Reveal Largest Crater in Solar System - 06.25.08
New analysis of Mars' terrain using NASA spacecraft observations reveals what appears to be by far the largest impact crater ever found in the solar system.
Lloyd wrote:If the result of an electrical discharge, would there be proof of that on the other side of the planet? Is the crater made by electricity leaving different from the crater made by Corloriss effect?
- Thornhill said on his site I think that it's EDM [electric discharge machining] which removed matter from Mars' northern hemisphere and then deposited it on the opposite electrode of Mars [the south pole area] in sedimentary layers. He also said EDM has done that on Earth too, forming some of our sedimentary rocks. I don't know how to tell the difference, whether sedimentary rock was deposited electrically or by water. I don't know if electrically deposited rock could contain fossils.
Wal Thornhill wrote:With this additional background, my statement, in Mysterious Mars (August 2003) gains firm support. '...Mars was also depicted by the ancients as sitting within a glowing tornadic column for a period. That would explain the huge swirling erosion patterns at both of the Martian poles. It also means that the polar caps are only about 10,000 years old and probably still accommodating to Mars' 'new' environment. The puzzling difference between the northern and southern hemispheres of Mars is explained simply if the north pole was the cathode in the tornadic electrical exchange. Material would then have been removed from the northern hemisphere to give the low, flat and relatively uncratered terrain found there.'
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The south pole played an anode role and would have suffered deposition. It sits on top of a high altitude dome and tends to have equator-facing scarps instead of canyons. The south polar deposit (SPD) is delicately layered. An 'unexpected finding' was abundant small pits close to the bounding scarp of the SPD. Some have been neatly overlaid by the SPD. There is no sign that the bounding scarp has moved like a glacier or weathered to fill the pits. The abundant circumpolar pits in the south lack the raised rims expected of impacts. They exhibit the alignments of so-called 'secondary crater chains.' There are no such things. All linear arrangements of craters are the result of an arc moving across a surface. Both the pits beneath and the delicate layering are the kinds of things we should expect if the SPD was electrically deposited.
The SPD is quite distinct from the circum-polar sand and layered deposit at the north pole. The difference between the two polar caps is very important. Bruce Murray of Caltech wrote, 'The increasing recognition of differences between the two caps has progressively made a straightforward global alternation in aeolian deposition of suspended sediment between the two poles (driven by obliquity and eccentricity changes) a less likely explanation, though it once seemed so appealing. However a new paradigm has not yet emerged to explain the rapidly growing body of information.' (Icarus 154, 80-97 (2001)) The differences between the north and south poles on Mars make a single geological explanation for them both unworkable.
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The north pole of Mars sits on top of a dome that is almost 3km above the surrounding surface but is still 2km below the average elevation at the equator. A colossal amount of material has been machined from the northern hemisphere. In effect, the polar cap is the central peak of a hemispheric-sized crater. The enigmatic grooves and 'chasma' in the polar caps are a natural consequence of travelling arcs. They have been carved up to a kilometre deep into the polar caps. Their marked difference in size is explained by differences in the power of the arc. Their tendency to a spiral form is due to the rotating Birkeland currents that form the arc. There are other examples of a spiral or corkscrew effect in craters on Mars and the Moon. Unconformities have been noted in the exposed layering of the north polar deposit (NPD). That discounts the idea that it was formed like a 'layer cake' by cyclic deposition due to some unspecified climatic oscillation effect. It is a remnant of exposed subsurface rock like that found as peaks in the centers of most large craters. The NPD has been described as resembling cottage cheese, with a flat pitted and etched surface. As I showed in the earlier news item, such pitting and etching is characteristic of a cathode surface.
Wal Thornhill wrote:COMMENT: The fact that thunderbolts were remembered by the ancients as a cause of surface scarring on Mars opens a whole new realm of rapid electrical deposition and erosion to explain surface features. It happened yesterday in geological terms so that we may expect faster adjustments today than otherwise expected. Electric discharges tend to remove matter from the cathode and transfer it to the anode. Electrical deposition from another body would explain the global layering seen on Mars. Electric discharge machining would tend to remove surface material by an etching process. That has resulted in many weird surface features.
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>>This enigmatic landform on Mars shows the extensive layering followed by powerful electric discharge etching of the surface. On the right is an electric discharge machined surface viewed under an electron microscope. The scalability law of plasma phenomena allows a direct comparison.
The Earth today suffers minor electrical interaction with the solar plasma, which results in lightning at mid to lower latitudes and a diffuse auroral discharge at the poles. Another form of diffuse atmospheric electric discharge is the more energetic tornado. Mars was also depicted by the ancients as sitting within a glowing tornadic column for a period. That would explain the huge swirling erosion patterns at both of the Martian poles. It also means that the polar caps are only about 10,000 years old and probably still accommodating to Mars’ “new” environment. The puzzling difference between the northern and southern hemispheres of Mars is explained simply if the north pole was the cathode in the tornadic electrical exchange. Material would then have been removed from the northern hemisphere to give the low, flat and relatively uncratered terrain found there.
>>On the left is the raised swirling terrain at the Martian north pole. At right, we see that the layers of the martian north polar cap are divided into upper, light-toned layers and lower, darker layers. It shows the deposition process to have been discontinuous. Streamers of dark sand join a nearby "dune field" a few kilometers away. Erosion of the lower layered unit liberates sand that was long ago deposited in these layers. The upper unit, by contrast, contains almost no sand. Wind may have created the dunes or they may have been shaped by earlier spark "pitting" of the surface. Mars Photo Credit: NASA/JPL/Malin Space Science Systems
[Snip section on mainstream "global climate change"...]
COMMENT: It was the most catastrophic climate change imaginable involving a drastic shift of orbit as a result of the close electrical and gravitational encounters with other planets. Electrical forces in an essentially chaotic gravitational system can quickly change and stabilize planetary orbits. It renders computer orbital retro-calculations invalid. No such computation will place Mars near the Earth only 10,000 years ago! The tornadic circumpolar winds mentioned above were capable of moving heavy sand grains and forming vast fields of sand dunes around the polar caps. However, the electrical interactions were capable of stripping much of Mars’ atmosphere too. The final result was a tenuous atmosphere no longer capable of moving sand dunes.
In Revisiting the 'creation' myth," David Talbott]As readers familiarize themselves with the archetypal underpinnings of the reconstruction, it will become clear that the principle of conjunction was expressed through myriad symbols and mythic interpretations. Apart from the principle of planets in an enduring alignment, the themes are not even comprehensible. When we speak of Venus as the central eye or heart-soul of a celestial power astronomically identified as Saturn close to the Earth, we are speaking of a perfect conjunction unthinkable in our time, and made "all the more so" by the smaller sphere of Mars, stationed in front of Venus and on the same axis, as the mythic "pupil" of the eye.[/quote]
[quote="In The Warrior's Toroidal Beard, David Talbott wrote:When I can get to it, I'll have more to say on the Mars-to-Earth toroidal stack, which must not be confused with the toroids or embedded cones that appeared between Mars and Venus (tower, ladder, backbone, chain of arrows motif) in a different evolutionary phase of the configuration.
In The Crowns of Sages and Warrior-Kings (Part 1), David Talbott wrote:Identifiable phases or aspects of an evolving "Polar Configuration" will account for a full spectrum of crown-like forms. And no more than three phases will account for the vast majority of crowns and headdresses in antiquity:
1. The radial discharge of Venus
2. This discharge in its off-axis appearance
3. Material stretching between Mars and Venus, seen off axis.
In the radial discharge phases briefly noted in the opening thread, the red sphere of Mars stands in front of the star of Venus, so that Mars is surrounded by the streamers radiating from Venus. Both the number and the shape of the streamers change over time.
In The Story of Venus, David Talbott wrote:Venus and the female chaos monster.
Up to this point we've barely touched the "doomsday" image of Venus, which adds the greatest texture to the ancient identity of the planet as the "terrible goddess" and as the Great Comet. This will require a look at what happens to Venus' discharge streamers and to the material stretching between Mars and Venus in the more unstable episodes. For starters, three prominent aspects must be noted, though more will have to be added to place events in context.
--The stream of material between Mars and Venus acquires a spiraling form.
--Venus' discharge streamers take on a chaotic, undulating, or serpentine appearance.
--The discharge streamers gather into an organized whorl.
Since the spiraling form is so closely tied to the organization of the "enclosure of the gods"--a massive subject--I will simply note here what I suggested in the discussion in Part 3 of the Crowns of Sages and Warrior Kings White Crown of Egypt. As Venus began to move off axis, the White Crown form gave way to a new form as the spiraling sidelock
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The sidelock is associated with what might be called the "second birth" of the warrior-hero. In Egyptian symbolism this would be the birth of the warrior Horus, who wears the sidelock immediately. The sidelock is his own mother Isis or Hathor. It becomes the spiraling serpent or rope of creation. Events surrounding these episodes suggest instability and displacement.
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Always remember that observers on Earth saw the discharge streamers from different vantage points. From one vantage point--on axis with Mars and Venus--they were seen radially, with Mars appearing in front of Venus, visually surrounded by the discharge, interpreted as his "protection." This protection, in other words, was provided by the goddess herself.
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As I've already noted, the streamers moved up the shared planetary axis toward the gas giant Saturn. So with more severe displacement of the Earth, Mars, and Venus from axial alignment with Saturn, the streamers were seen off axis, in what I've called the "scallop shell" formation
In this reconstruction, the movement of Mars along the shared axis produced dramatic changes in the visual appearance of the planet. Mars is the small red body in these images, and the discharging "star" in the center of Saturn is Venus. Due to perspective, when Mars moved close to Earth, it dropped visually from the center of the configuration. This is the effect of "parallax": since Mars is about half the diameter of the Earth, the viewer at the 30th (or even the 45th parallel or somewhat higher), would see over Mars. But for each degree of visual descent, it would grow much larger due to the viewers line of sight close to the axis. This appearance of dropping below Venus would occur even if the planet remained squarely on the shared axis (which it did not).
Here are three snapshots illustrating the changes in the appearance of the configuration as Mars descended and a stream of luminous material (dusty plasma) stretched between Mars and Venus. In other words, the center of attention in this phase was not a discharge between Venus and Saturn, but electrical activity between Venus and Mars
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Various conical crowns worn by the great warrior-kings of antiquity pose a persistent unsolved mystery. What I intend to demonstrate is that a simple reconstruction will explain the entire spectrum of symbols, down to innumerable finite details. As a teaser, I'll leave with you the illustration below, developed from the logic and perspective of the model. This is just a first illustration of the way in which small changes in planetary position and in the shape of the discharge streamer between Mars and Venus produced variations directly reflected in the ancient forms of caps and conical crowns. (These relationships should be viewed at a higher resolution by clicking on the image).
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In the movements of the bodies, the most active form was the planet Mars, both because of its motion along the axis, and its displacement from the axis (initially a modest displacement, but much more extreme as the general instability of the configuration grew). Additionally, a discharge between Mars and Venus and between Mars and the Earth must be tracked and tested against the global field of evidence.
To avoid misunderstanding, it’s essential that you know how the image of the conical formation between Mars and Venus (shown above) was constructed. It was based explicitly on the “White Crown” of Egypt, as a test to determine whether the interpretation given by our reconstruction would hold up under the closest scrutiny, in which both the larger contexts (the universal themes) and all available information from Egypt could be applied to the analysis. The results are, in fact, stunning. Everything that the Egyptians themselves said about the White Crown, though pointing to nothing in natural experience today, is precisely what we should expect under the concrete model proposed.
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Evaluating this reconstruction requires one to compare every attribute and implication of the model to the specific data given by the Egyptian symbolists themselves. Within the context of the model, what would we look for as acid tests? A red sphere at the base of the crown? Identity of the crown itself with the mother goddess? Original identity of the wearer as the “pupil” of the Eye? Appearance of the crown at the moment of the warrior’s descent, or “birth”? By answering the obvious questions, other, even more stringent tests, will arise.
Consider, for example: For an observer on Earth you cannot create the image of the White Crown above by placing Mars squarely on the axis. It can only be produced by moving Mars off axis slightly. And that movement carries with it inescapable implications. Does the Egyptian evidence explicitly support the precise movement required by this off-axis position? It’s one thing to construct a three-dimensional model based on a single Egyptian symbol. But it’s a quite different matter to confirm every implication that follows.
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Our reconstruction identifies Shu as the fist form of the warrior-hero Mars, originally seen as a small reddish sphere inside the “Great Star,” which is Venus. The Great Star is globally depicted in the center of a larger circle or sphere (whom we identify as Saturn), in what I’ve called the “Great Conjunction of the Golden Age.”
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For [the feather symbolism of the goddess Ma'at] to to make sense, you must remember that to produce the image of the White Crown in our 3-D rendering, it was necessary to place Earth (or Mars, or both) slightly off axis. This would mean that the visual alignment required for the perfect “feather” to fall on the White Crown may not have been the norm. At least for a time, the norm may well have been a churning motion of the Crown suggestive of instability. In contrast, the arrival at a position of balance, which allowed the feather to turn symmetrically in a daily cycle would have been a wondrous thing to behold.
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In the images of the White Crown above, one notes an interplay of the mother goddess and the warrior-hero, always reflecting the dynamics of conjunction and displacement. The Egyptian Aten (conjunction) leads to the White Crown (displacement, but with surprising balance and symmetry). In the same way, the radial discharge of Venus in the center of Saturn, with Mars directly in front of Venus, is a story of conjunction. But the primary forms of the radial discharge are also seen from a displaced position off axis (scallop shell, 7-headed serpent, hand of God).
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