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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

Unread postby Dotini » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:49 pm

http://www.foia.af.mil/shared/media/doc ... 08-049.pdf

Please take considerable care with this,
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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

Unread postby PersianPaladin » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:12 pm

I have done a more comprehensive write-up, for those interested:-

http://hozturner.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09 ... on-of.html
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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

Unread postby Dotini » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:25 am

Very good. "A" for effort and graphics.

Now all you need to do is explain why some UFO's can change shape, size, color, speed and direction seemingly at will, why some UFO's seem to react to humans, and why some humans seem to be psychologically affected by UFOs, i.e., by hallucinations, transcendental experiences, etc. And while you're about it, come up with a universally accepted explanation of consciousness.

You have started up a steep path, but you have started well!

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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

Unread postby StevenJay » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:48 am

Good stuff! Every time I see a Youtube clip that automatically equates UFOs (dancing lights in the sky) with alien space craft, I suggest the possibility that it's an electrical discharge phenomenon (ball/bead lightning).

I'm always moved by how much a neural net map resembles this and other images like it:
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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

Unread postby Doctor Zordirz » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:48 pm

Wow, this is really impressive work. You have probably just accounted for a good percentage of all UFO sightings! I will certainly take this into consideration if I ever see a UFO again.

I saw one when I was about eight years old (around 1989) in Sound Beach, NY some time in December. I woke up just before sunrise and looked out my west facing window. I saw a strange red light about 35-40 degrees above the horizon. It did not flash like the ones on a plane nor did it seem to be moving at all. There was no sound associated with it but I figure it was at least a few miles away. I should also mention, even though it was pretty bright it was not nearly as intense as those collision lights- it had a "softer" quality like that of a flame. I watched it for about 5 minutes and decided to wake up my sisters to show them. My big sister looked at it for a bit and said "it's a plane" and went back to sleep.

Here's the strange part: After big sis left, I watched it until it "flew" away. it did so in about the blink of an eye. From my perspective it flew to the left and up in a curved path. I only say this because I saw a short trail of light kind of like a logarithmic curve. At this point I was convinced that what I just saw was magic and the most likely explanation I could think of was Santa...

You can imagine my parents reaction when I told them I had seen Rudolph or Santa's sleigh or the light from Rudolph's nose. This was odd to even me because not only was it not Christmas yet but I could not see the outline of a physical craft- just the light.

So: Would a ball of plasma necessarily fade away or could it suddenly "pinch out" into what looks like a line? Maybe it DID fade away and I just imagined it leaving a streak... I could never make sense of that part.

I admit that our perception of time changes as we get older so what seemed like 15 minutes could have been 3. So, how long do you think a ball of plasma would last assuming it was in air that was likely below zero degrees Celsius? Maybe it was further out than I thought? If it was in the ionosphere I imagine people across many states could have seen this if they were up and about.

One more question just for kicks: Does any one suppose that a machine or a craft could somehow surround itself with plasma? Some people believe that UFO's are physical craft that can somehow ionize the air around them.
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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

Unread postby CTJG 1986 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:04 am

The difference between a Creationist and a believer in the Big Bang is that the Creationists admit they are operating on blind faith... Big Bang believers call their blind faith "theoretical mathematical variables" and claim to be scientists rather than the theologists they really are.
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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

Unread postby GaryN » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:55 am

At this page there is a declassified UK MOD pdf which reasons for many UAPs being of electrical/plasma origin.
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/Freed ... ummary.htm
This is still my favorite vid. of what appears to be plasma phenomena.
Mother Ship UFO Birthing Orbs Between Rosario and Satelite Mexico
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAgbp0xBjkM
and it seems the sphere emitting tube has been observed before:
Nuremberg UFO event 1561
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There also was another thread a while back on this subject:
New "UFO" Footage looks like Plasma Phenomenon?
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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

Unread postby PersianPaladin » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:56 am

Article now published in print and online:-

http://www.weeklyzaman.com/en/newsDetai ... ewsId=6328
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Re: Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

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