We are orphans. Daddy and Mommy are dead and gone.

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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We are orphans. Daddy and Mommy are dead and gone.

Unread postby Influx » Thu May 03, 2012 9:43 pm

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was With God, and the Word was God.”

Words are information, carried to us on information carriers as charge on charge carriers. As do charge carriers take on many forms and substances, ions, electrons, plasmas, charged dust and so on, information can also be transmitted by many different ways. Books, stone, sound waves, electromagnetism, in all its varied forms, even plasma.

Information is knowledge and knowledge is power.

So, Restated.

“In the beginning was the knowledge and the knowledge was with power, and the knowledge was power.”

Where did this power, knowledge and information come from? And how was this information, knowledge and power applied for the creation of flesh?

But more to the point what is this power/information/knowledge? Well we can find a clue, again, in the bible.

“The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.”

The earth was a formless ball of water. And God was over the surface of the waters.

“ 01 January 2009 Early Earth 'was covered in water'

Earth was once a 'water world' much like the one depicted by Hollywood, scientists believe.

A new model of the early Earth suggests that until around 2.5 billion years ago oceans covered almost the whole of the planet.

Just 2% to 3% of the Earth's surface would have been dry land, compared with 28% today.”

“New Scientist magazine reported: 'As the mantle cooled, land would have gradually appeared as the oceans became deeper and regions of high relief on the continental crust formed '."

Source: http://www.earthdive.com


“Cosmic Egg exploding at the moment of the creation.” The theory defies physics principles and is unrealistic, needing most of the matter in the universe to be invisible Rather than being the birth of the universe...”

Wal Thornhill.


Instead of the universe, the cosmic egg and primordial or primeval egg motif might refer to our world. A water world. With powerful information/knowledge encircling it!

“A world egg or cosmic egg is a mythological motif found in the creation myths of many cultures and civilizations. Typically, the world egg is a beginning of some sort, and the universe or some primordial being comes into existence by "hatching" from the egg, sometimes lain on the primordial waters of the Earth.”

Wikipedia.


Something lain on the waters of the world and something hatching. Something made love to the world, the watery egg! What was that something. The serpent. The dragon. Which is most likely plasma.

“When researchers seeking to resolve a mystery have explored every possibility they can imagine, but find no answer, it becomes increasingly likely that the truth is simply outside the boundaries of current assumption. Until very recently historical researchers had no reason to think of plasma when considering the mysteries of the cosmic serpent or dragon. Yet almost everything about the mythic archetype finds striking counterparts in the behavior of electrified plasma, now known to fill interplanetary, interstellar and intergalactic space.”

Aug 10, 2004 Mystery of the Cosmic Dragon. Thunderbolts team.


So, earth is the watery cosmic egg, equivalent to the egg of the human female, the serpent, a massive sentient plasma field enveloping the earth like sperm the egg. The beginning of life on earth and the conception of a human have striking similarities.

So, the plasma entity made love to the the earth and earth gave birth to life!?

“Almost the entire visible universe is composed of plasma—a gas where some of the atoms have lost an electron or two. However, unlike the gases we are familiar with on Earth, plasma reacts strongly to the presence of electromagnetic fields and is a better conductor than copper. Its behavior has been described as complex and “life-like.” That should be a clue! The universe is principally an electrical plasma phenomenon.”

Wal Thornhill.


Indeed.

Could the conception of life on earth have been caused by plasma?

“Hypothetical life based on what is sometimes called "the fourth state of matter," plasma. The possibility of such noncorporeal life is a common theme in science fiction and is often entertained, for example, in episodes of Star Trek. However, it was given more credence by the announcement in September 2003 that physicists had succeeded in created blobs of plasma that can grow, replicate, and communicate, thus fulfilling most of the traditional requirements for biological cells. Lacking inherited material they cannot be described as alive, but the researchers believe these curious spheres may offer a radical new explanation for how life began.”

“But if Mircea Sanduloviciu and his colleagues at Cuza University in Romania are right, the theory may have to be overhauled. They claim cell-like self-organization can occur in a few microseconds.”

David Darling.


Perhaps the Word/information/knowledge was a rapidly evolving plasma life-form/s encircling the earth. Everyday evolving and getting increasingly complex, to the point that it became a sentient mind able to sense, feel and manipulate its surrounding through electrical and magnetic forces.

In the book,The Body Electric: Electromagnetism And The Foundation Of Life, Robert Becker wrote the following.

“Semiconductivity occurs naturally in several inorganic crystals, including silicon, one of the most common elements, and the rare earth germanium. Moreover, extremely small amounts of contaminants will change the crystal's electrical properties dramatically in doping. The earth's volcanic mixing would have produced minerals with a wide variety of current-handling abilities to start from. Most important, the piezoelectric, pyroelectric, photoelectric, and other responses of semiconducting crystals could have served as an analog method of processing and storing information about pressure, heat, and light.”


Could it be that the plasma life-form, simply, “downloaded” the instructions on how to build life into the silicates of the earth. And earth became a massive sentient computer. Gaia.

Notice the following, “The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind.”

The “earth brought forth”, meaning, that, the earth made life.

Robert Becker continued in his book, “Moreover, repeated passage of current through some semiconductors permanently changes the materials' characteristics so as to make the same electrical responses easier in the future.”

So, all the plasma entity had to do was fire electromagnetic energy at precise and specific locations on earth and Gaia would emerge! And, she, then, by manipulating the energy within her crystal lattice mind would synthesize life by shuffling and prodding the molecules into the appropriate forms necessary for biological life. And these processes need not have taken billions of year.


“CORE CONCEPTS OF BACTERIAL MULTICELLULARITY

Briefly stated, the core concepts of bacterial multicellularity may be summarized
as follows:

1. Bacterial cells have communication and decision-making capabilities that
enable them to coordinate growth, movement, and biochemical activities.

2. Examples of communication and coordinated behaviors are widespread
(possibly ubiquitous) among bacterial taxa and are not limited to a few
groups with a specialized multicellular vocation.

3. Bacterial populations derive adaptive benefits from multicellular cooperation
and their ability to integrate the diverse activities of different cells. These
benefits include (but are not limited to):

(a) More efficient proliferation resulting from a cellular division of labor;
(b) Access to resources and niches that cannot be utilized by isolated cells;
(c) Collective defense against antagonists that eliminate isolated cells; and
(d ) Optimization of population survival by differentiation into distinct cell
types.”

James A. Shapiro
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of Chicago, 920 East
58 Street, Chicago, Illinois 60637; e-mail: jsha@midway.uchicago.edu


Perhaps we are nothing more than engineered clumps of autonomous bacteria colonies, designed by a wast plasma entity.That no longer exists due to the brake down of the Saturn system, and the cessation of the electric currents that sustained it.

Built by Gaia, who, too, might be dead. Due to the break up of earth's silicate crust in the various catastrophes that befell earth after the break of the Saturn system.

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Re: We are orphans. Daddy and Mommy are dead and gone.

Unread postby tayga » Fri May 04, 2012 1:02 am

So who made Daddy and Mommy?
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It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.

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Re: We are orphans. Daddy and Mommy are dead and gone.

Unread postby Influx » Fri May 04, 2012 7:10 am

Read or reread the David Darling quote. Or, just reread the whole thing. ;-)
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Unread postby Lloyd » Fri May 04, 2012 8:30 am

Deep Thought
darkness was over the surface of the deep

* In ancient myths, the great deep referred to the sky. The waters usually referred to what looked like waters around Saturn that Saturn appeared to be floating on. Even the "Earth" likely didn't refer to our present Earth, but to an aurora-like plane above the horizon where there may have appeared animate creatures and people in plasma forms, I suppose. Some of the TPODs have details. See http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/00subjectx.htm#Mythology or https://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=site:http%3A%2F%2Fthunderbolts.info%2Ftpod+myth.
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Re: We are orphans. Daddy and Mommy are dead and gone.

Unread postby mague » Mon May 07, 2012 12:49 am

Influx wrote:Read or reread the David Darling quote. Or, just reread the whole thing. ;-)


The problem is not a scientific problem. Its just about from where you look at it.

Either you look at the spark or you are the spark. If you look at it all remains a mystery, hidden behind the blur we cant grasp. If you are it you find the lotos, a symbol for the flower das peaks out of the most muddy water and all is very obvious. Like a mountains peak above the clouds where the gods live.

We are not external beings who try to understand the "most holy" inner sanctum. Our sparcs are the peak of the spikes growing from the sanctum through the blur.

The answer then is that there are no questions. Just existance and the good ole pathetic joy.

Yeah, bio mass likes to organise around it. But does it matter ? It does matter though that spark and bio mass live in symbiosis and they seperate one day. People with a pain history can tell that physical pain has nothing to do with the energy self but is able to share it. Hence some patients are able to switch off all pain, warriors try to sperate pain, Ascetics sleep on nail beds and so on and forth. Without this understanding some take their own soul/spark hostage. <- The so called evil

The solution is, similar to the double slit experiment, based on the observer, not the observed.
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Unread postby Goldminer » Mon May 07, 2012 1:48 am

The "Cosmic Egg" is very real and is seen all over the visible Universe. It is that ejected plasmoid known as a QUASAR, that grows into a self-organizing galaxy.
I sense a disturbance in the farce.
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