The plane of a galaxy cluster

[dusthurricane]

Nick C,
In conclusion, all magnetic fields encountered in nature are generated by circulating currents. There is no fundamental difference between the fields generated by permanent magnets and those generated by currents flowing around conventional electric circuits.

People are getting carried away. If nature were to employ electricity as the primal force then discharge effects
would occur accross the entire cosmos and would be observable. Electrical effects depend of voltage magnitude.
So the above conclusion requires an electric field for circulating currents. At what voltage ?

Why not use magnetism, the flux is non electric and will not discharge through a conducter upon contact.
A iron magnet is conductive material so why can we not sink the magnetism and discharge it.

I maintain magnetism sits at the top of the hierachy - it is passive. Electric fields are not.

Electricity requires an electric field as the path and current as the flow. Electricity is electron flow not electron spin.

[Sparky]

If nature were to employ electricity as the primal force then discharge effects would occur accross the entire cosmos and would be observable.

That is what EU suggests is happening. Through plasma, in dark mode, glow mode, or arc mode.. see vids. here. http://youtu.be/OH7lrjixaNA

Electricity is electron flow not electron spin.

check this out..

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5087

[kevin]

"Discharge effects"
Ever noticed the craters on the moon and other planets??
Ever wondered if so called electricity isn't alive??
Kevin

[dusthurricane]

me
If nature were to employ electricity as the primal force then discharge effects would occur accross the entire cosmos and would be observable.

sparky,

That is what EU suggests is happening. Through plasma, in dark mode, glow mode, or arc mode.. see vids.

Video too 'mystic' to be taken seriously.

And your directing me to another forum link, for a description and definition of electric phenomena -
what a mish mash of information - thanks anyway.

[Sparky]

And your directing me to another forum link, for a description and definition of electric phenomena -
what a mish mash of information - thanks anyway.

sorry, but i was just offering some evidence as to the confusion and different perspectives surrounding "electricity". I was taught that electricity is the flow of electrons. Now, I don't know what it is, just it's effects.

And "mish mash" is normal for forums, isn't it?

Video too 'mystic' to be taken seriously.

The videos are condensations of a great deal of research and experimentation, compiled in a format for those who have not invested the effort to examine the subject. EU is diverse subjects that, on their own, do not prove EU, but, taken together, suggest very strongly that the EU perspective is a much better model than standard cosmology.

EU recognizes the "magnetic field" as a powerful force. The only difference between EU and your position is what came first, the electric current or the magnetic field. Since one affects the other, what difference
does it make? Experiments show that currents produce magnetic fields, but if you want to believe the opposite, we still arrive at at a position where there is a magnetic field and electric currents. And neither can be explained, except by their effects!

[dusthurricane]

Sparky, in response - i agree.

[dusthurricane]

I have found this forum a challenge - with respect to magnetism and electricity.

The only real answer which posed me a challenge was about necleur / atomic currents taking over after
an external magnetic field has been applied. This conclusion can be challenged -

The external energy required to send electrons into a spin ( become magnetic )-
once removed, the spin remains and this is a law of orbital / rotation mechanics - not electric current-
the atom is not taking over with its own 'external field' to sustain spin. A differnet mechanic is working the spin.

Spintronics will help understand the rotation mechanics of the atom.

Why magnetism rings in my ears more than any other phenomenon-

The cosmos is not empty - even where voids exist.
Electricity , in my view is configned to atmospheres - space is a conductor so to speak and this is why
electric charge between objects is 'diffused' by the 'space' between them. Where does this electricity go - whatever
space connects to. The bubble shell of our cluster / galaxy / solar system.

I put it down to water. Won't elaborate at this point.

Now , for long distance transmission of energy - this is where magnetism comes in.
Space is see-through as far as magnetic energy is concerned. Magnetism can not be discharge in the
space through which it propogates. The ultimate transport mechanism is magnetism.

[GaryN]

The ultimate transport mechanism is magnetism.

Just wondering dusth if you have looked into the longitudinal magnetic field and magnetic tension, or Ampere tension? It seems to me that this effect must indicate the existence of an Aether, and that charge and magnetism are both conditions, or traits, ot an Aether.

[Sparky]

Space is see-through as far as magnetic energy is concerned. Magnetism can not be discharge in the
space through which it propogates.

Can you explain Earth's "bow shock", relative to the Sun's Magnetic field?

Or is it almost entirely a result of ion particles impacting and forming the bow shock from Earth's magnetic field?