Heat converts into electricity when ions contact graphene

[quantauniverse]

A new highly debated and important discovery is underway, over a graphene battery by Xu that can run for 20 days on simple heat energy by converting heat into electricity when charged ions in an aqueous solution environment contact graphene structures. Increasing the heat temperature increases the electric current in the graphene device. http://technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27625 In outer space environments, high temperature dense plasma ions are common in thin filaments stretching millions of light years, and if these findings are true, common carbon form graphene must be involved in converting heat into cosmic scale electric currents emanating from galactic jets, when plasma ions contact commonly formed buckyballs and graphenes ejected by stellar factories, believed by myself to be largely responsible for shaping galaxies and the universe. Plasma is a good conductor of electricity comprising 99.9% of stars and galaxies. Recently Javier Garcia de Abajo devised a graphene nanoscale disk (shaped like a flattened galaxy disk) that perfectly absorbs 100% of all light from ANY and ALL directions. Phony theoretical inferred unseen black holes of galaxies are explainable by plasma cosmology involving graphene based metamaterials as an easy source of electricity. See popular story with new additions at http://holographicgalaxy.blogspot.com/2 ... lanic.html

[Sparky]

In outer space environments, high temperature dense plasma ions are common in thin filaments stretching millions of light years,and if these findings are true, common carbon form graphene must be involved in converting heatinto cosmic scale electric currents emanating from galactic jets, when plasma ions contact commonly formed buckyballs and graphenes ejected by stellar factories,

Moving plasma IS electricity! Although heat to electricity is possible, the conclusion here is high speculative. There may be positive feedback, analogous to current =magnetic fields= more current, under the right conditions.

I fail to see the excitement over electrical currents, as plasmas.

And, indeed, the device that they constructed appears to be a battery, using non-standard materials. But, moving ions ARE electricity, so what is the problem tapping into it? Sounds like busy work to justify their positions.

[Michael Mozina]

In outer space environments, high temperature dense plasma ions are common in thin filaments stretching millions of light years,and if these findings are true, common carbon form graphene must be involved in converting heatinto cosmic scale electric currents emanating from galactic jets, when plasma ions contact commonly formed buckyballs and graphenes ejected by stellar factories,

Moving plasma IS electricity!

That's true. One of the fundamental errors that the mainstream makes is ignoring the fact that a moving charged particle is a form of "current". They think that if they fire off a proton and an electron at the same time, at the same velocity, in the same direction, they are now "neutral". That's not actually true. The moment both particles slam into a relatively stationary magnetic field (like the Earth's magnetosphere), they separate into "current".

I don't think they understand the velocity=current concept very well.

Although heat to electricity is possible, the conclusion here is high speculative.

I agree. It seems more likely to work the other way around IMO. In other words, it's likely that it is the current that heats the filaments as it does in the solar atmosphere.

[flippinrocks]

maybe this has some bearing on this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMT6PzNVws4&list=FLPt3NXjThVK1YJHkN2anovw&index=135&feature=plpp_video

[Reality Check]

Moving plasma IS electricity!

Small mistake there Sparky.
Electricity is a movement of electrically charged particles, e.g. electrons in wires.

However plasma is overall neutral. So in general moving plasma is moving neutral matter (equal amounts of positive and negative charges). There are electrical current sheets within plasma.

Or maybe you would agree with: Moving cows IS electricity

[Reality Check]

One of the fundamental errors that the mainstream makes is ignoring the fact that a moving charged particle is a form of "current". They think that if they fire off a proton and an electron at the same time, at the same velocity, in the same direction, they are now "neutral". That's not actually true.
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The mainstream never ignores the fact that a moving charged particle is a current.

If you fire off a proton and an electron at the same time, at the same velocity, in the same direction then there is no current because the combination is neutral. That is mass flow. No one calls a person walking down a road a current
In your example though you can use a magnetic field to separate the proton and an electron and then you have 2 currents.

[mamuso]

The mainstream never ignores the fact that a moving charged particle is a current.

They never made a mistake?

However plasma is overall neutral. So in general moving plasma is moving neutral matter (equal amounts of positive and negative charges). There are electrical current sheets within plasma.

Or maybe you would agree with: Moving cows IS electricity

You got it! A moving cow IS electricity.

[Sparky]

RC,

Electricity is a movement of electrically charged particles, e.g. electronsin wires.

NONsense!..........how about lightning?!

Or maybe you would agree with: Moving cows IS electricity

Try real hard not to be a presumptuous ass embly of falsified theories. And since you do not know what electricity is, nor how plasma behaves, how can you correct anyone, who has taken some effort to understand what the most "learned" only know the effects of, not it's cause. From my studies, moving Ions are electric current, by definition.

If anyone can show that they know for sure what electricity is, I will gladly defer!

[Michael Mozina]

RC,

Electricity is a movement of electrically charged particles, e.g. electronsin wires.

NONsense!..........how about lightning?!

Oh man, don't even open up that can of worms with RC. He's in staunch denial of the fact that electrical discharges can occur in plasmas and in flare activity. He's in denial of Dungey's use of that term in relationship to solar flares. In fact he claims that electrical discharges cannot occur in conductors. He has NO understanding of Peratt's definition of an electrical discharge in cosmic plasmas, or even basic electrical theory for that matter! Don't even go there with RC. Trust me on this.

[Sparky]

Don't even go there with RC.

Will not respond unless addressed. ...Thanks, MM..!

David Talbott has challenged him...will defer to what Mr. Talbott has to say....

[rjhuntington]

Moving plasma IS electricity!

Small mistake there Sparky.
Electricity is a movement of electrically charged particles, e.g. electrons in wires.

However plasma is overall neutral. So in general moving plasma is moving neutral matter (equal amounts of positive and negative charges). There are electrical current sheets within plasma.

Or maybe you would agree with: Moving cows IS electricity

Small mistake there, Reality check. While it is true that an electric current consists in the movement of charge, the familiar mechanism of electrons in wires is only way in which currents manifest. And even though the sum of the positive and negative ions in a plasma may equal a theoretical zero net charge, that is not the way plasma behaves. Plasma by its nature, as plasma, is separated charge, which doesn't just hang around.

Plasma arranges itself into separated layers of positive and negative charge, establishing currents in opposite directions, the positive ions -- protons -- in one direction and the negative ions -- electrons -- in the other direction. These currents are constrained by the magnetic fields arising from the currents and arrange themselves into twisted pairs of plasma power conductors called Birkeland currents, insulted by plasma double-layers.

Your cow snark is rather immature.
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[quantauniverse]

David Stern of NASA says on his website "particles in space carry an electric charge, and a moving electric charge can be viewed as equivalent to an electric current. A moving charge acts like an electric current, creating a magnetic field. The motion of plasma IS changing the magnetic field line structure that is associated with an electric field like the solar wind. Plasma is moved, pushed sideways, by electric fields in outer space. Magnetic forces try to make plasma co-rotate with the earth, the same effect as if magnetic field lines thread and are attached to the plasma. Plasma conducts electricity. There need be a very small amount of charges in plasma to have a very profound effect! Electric and magnetic fields are the same from different reference frames, which you see depends on your motion."
So, commonly hot ionized plasma has lost electrons and is not neutral but is charged and needs a minute percentage of charges to move plasma galaxies in zero gravity. http://holographicgalaxy.blogspot.com/2 ... ysics.html
Crowell disrespectfully had posted before that "EU people don't understand electric currents...a charge does not imply a magnetic field. A static charge gives just a radially symmetric electric field by Coulomb's law E=kq/r^2. The force on another charge is F=q'E. A magnetic field is due to the motion of charges by Faraday's law. Currents moving in a neutral medium like in a metal on earth generate magnetic fields on earth conditions. Funny thing is all comments to all stories at universetoday get deleted after a few weeks. So what they say can't mean anything at all.

[Michael V]

Oh dear!, You poor deluded fools.

I have tried to ignore this, but it is crucial to any analytical understanding of "electrical" phenomena:

Moving plasma IS electricity

No it isn't.

moving ions ARE electricity

No they aren't.

A moving charge acts like an electric current, creating a magnetic field.

No, it does not.

The mainstream never ignores the fact that a moving charged particle is a current.

Perhaps it would be better instead, to try some objective logical scientific analysis.

Electricity is a movement of electrically charged particles

NO! NO! NO!

Ignore the unjustified received wisdom and legacy of past flawed analyses and start THINKING!!!!!!!!!. Electricity is not the flow of "charged" particles and the concept of electricity as a "flow" or "current" is a mistake. Electricity and electrical discharge are NOT the flow of "charge carrying" objects and there is no flow of energy from source to load, or from sky to Earth or from galaxy to star. Electricity as a "flow" of "charged" particles is a presumption of misconception that has become superstition.

It really does bear repeating a million times: THERE IS NO "CURRENT".

Michael

[Goldminer]

Ostrich #2 (MJV) "Nope, no current in here!"

Actually, I follow Forrest Bishop's and Ivor Catt's version of "no voltage, no current," rather than MJV's opinion.

Forrest Bishop's and Ivor Catt's

[Sparky]

Oh dear!, You poor deluded fools.

I have tried to ignore this, but it is crucial to any analytical understanding of "electrical" phenomena:

Moving plasma IS electricity

No it isn't.

moving ions ARE electricity

No they aren't.

A moving charge acts like an electric current, creating a magnetic field.

No, it does not.

The mainstream never ignores the fact that a moving charged particle is a current.

Perhaps it would be better instead, to try some objective logical scientific analysis.

Electricity is a movement of electrically charged particles

NO! NO! NO!

Ignore the unjustified received wisdom and legacy of past flawed analyses and start THINKING!!!!!!!!!. Electricity is not the flow of "charged" particles and the concept of electricity as a "flow" or "current" is a mistake. Electricity and electrical discharge are NOT the flow of "charge carrying" objects and there is no flow of energy from source to load, or from sky to Earth or from galaxy to star. Electricity as a "flow" of "charged" particles is a presumption of misconception that has become superstition.

It really does bear repeating a million times: THERE IS NO "CURRENT".

Michael

I'm sorry... You know that I'm an addict that gives in to my weakness... I know better, but I just have this Need to feed my addiction, and I'm not strong enough to stand up to it.
The "pushers" have all of the things that I need, electrons, ions, magnetic/electric fields, current, and sparks! They say, "here, just try it again, you know how good it makes you feel"! "Here's a free sample!"......How can i resist? I'm just an addict..