Wave-particle duality is a particle and its aether wave

[mpc755]

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its aether wave.

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

"any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium"

The hidden medium is the aether. The "energetic contact" is the state of displacement of the aether.

'A quantum take on certainty'
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110602/ ... 1.344.html

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined trajectory which takes it through one slit. The associated aether wave passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit turns the associated aether wave into chop. The aether waves exiting the slits interact with the detectors and become many short waves with irregular motion. The waves become disorderly. The waves are disorganized. There is no wave interference. The particle pitches and rolls through the chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and it doesn't create an interference pattern.

[bdw000]

In recent years Lewis Little has taken up De Broglie's idea:

http://elementarywaves.com/

Some folks like his theory, but I've heard that there is at least one sticking-point that prevents the mainstream from taking it seriously.

[seasmith]

mpc755 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:53 am

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its aether wave.

mp,

What's at particle-aether interface ?

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[mpc755]

In recent years Lewis Little has taken up De Broglie's idea:

http://elementarywaves.com/

Some folks like his theory, but I've heard that there is at least one sticking-point that prevents the mainstream from taking it seriously.

The only issue I know of with pilot-wave theory is that it is considered to be a local hidden variable theory.

There are no such things as local hidden variables.

When a downconverted photon pair are created, in order to maintain the original photon's momentum, the downconverted photon pair are created with opposite spins and opposite angular momentums.

This means no matter how the spin of one of the downconverted photon pairs is detected the other photon will be detected with the opposite spin.

[mpc755]

mpc755 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:53 am

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its aether wave.

mp,

What's at particle-aether interface ?

s

Displacement.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

'Missing dark matter located - Inter-galactic space is filled with dark matter'
http://www.ipmu.jp/node/1222

"Galaxies have no definite "edges", the new research concludes. Instead galaxies have long outskirts of dark matter that extend to their nearby galaxies; the inter-galactic space is not empty but filled with dark matter."

It's called aether and it has mass.

[seasmith]

smith wrote:
mpc755 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:53 am

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its aether wave.


mp,

What's at particle-aether interface ?
s


Displacement.
-mpc

So no interaction at interface ? Just a swish, like a submarine passing in the night
?

[mpc755]

So no interaction at interface ? Just a swish, like a submarine passing in the night
?

'Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a sample of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies'
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract

"We compile a sample of 38 galaxy clusters which have both X-ray and strong lensing observations, and study for each cluster the projected offset between the dominant component of baryonic matter centre (measured by X-rays) and the gravitational centre (measured by strong lensing). Among the total sample, 45 per cent clusters have offsets [greater than]10 arcsec. The [greater than]10 arcsec separations are significant, considering the arcsecond precision in the measurement of the lensing/X-ray centres. This suggests that it might be a common phenomenon in unrelaxed galaxy clusters that gravitational field is separated spatially from the dominant component of baryonic matter. It also has consequences for lensing models of unrelaxed clusters since the gas mass distribution may differ from the dark matter distribution and give perturbations to the modelling. Such offsets can be used as a statistical tool for comparison with the results of Lambda cold dark matter ( CDM) simulations and to test the modified dynamics."

The offset is due to the galaxy clusters moving through the aether. The analogy is a submarine moving through the water. You are under water. Two miles away from you are many lights. Moving between you and the lights one mile away is a submarine. The submarine displaces the water. The state of displacement of the water causes the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water to be offset from the center of the submarine itself. The offset between the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water displaced by the submarine and the center of the submarine itself is going to remain the same as the submarine moves through the water. The submarine continually displaces different regions of the water. The state of the water connected to and neighboring the submarine remains the same as the submarine moves through the water even though it is not the same water the submarine continually displaces. This is what is occurring physically in nature as the galaxy clusters move through and displace the aether.

[77Gslinger]

The so-called electrons used in the double slit experiment are in fact spiraling electric wave forms and not "ball bearings" and "marbles" as claimed by the eggheads who push this absurd lie. This is a shell game where the fake electrons of the debunked nuclear theory of the atom are substituted by academicians, for the real electrons which mankind utilizes in electron "guns", microscopes etc. See DB Larson's "The Case Against the Nuclear Theory of the Atom" for a full demolition of the nuke atom fraud. There are no ball bearings in orbital shells, even my Chem profs confessed this nuke atom was a fraud back in 1976, yet it is still taught? Who benfits from this lie? Follow the money trail, it is easy to find out.

This invalidates the entire expermient and all freaky conclusions attributed to it by quantum guessers and there is no need to go into all of the freaky claims made by quantum quacks, based on their mythematical models which describe this fraud. Really, the simplist means to debunk things is the best. Quantum quackery asserts that there are "fundamental quantums of energy" which are in reality a form of reductionism as blatant as 17th to 19th Century etherdefined as " indivisible ether particles". These quantum quacks lash out against ether, yet their fundamental qunatums of energy are just as absurd. It's called Hypocrisy and a double standard, with "special pleading" for their non-existent "quantums" and all of the hog wash it creates in their bizarre conclusions based on faulty mythematics.[/size]

[mpc755]

Whatever an electron is, the electron 'particle' has a well defined trajectory which takes it through one slit while the associated aether wave passes through both.

For something as small as a photon, and possibly an electron, I do not think it can be known if it is a particle which has an associated external aether displacement wave or if the 'particle' consists of a very small region of the wave itself.

'A quantum take on certainty'
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110602/ ... 1.344.html

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

Aether had mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined trajectory which takes it through one slit. The associated aether wave passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit turns the associated aether wave into chop. The aether waves exiting the slits interact with the detectors and become many short waves with irregular motion. The waves become disorderly. The waves are disorganized. There is no wave interference. The particle pitches and rolls through the chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and it doesn't create an interference pattern.

[77Gslinger]

You have just copied and pasted an old comment from the top of the thread! What, is the point in repeating this again?

[mpc755]

You have just copied and pasted an old comment from the top of the thread! What, is the point in repeating this again?

I was explaining how for a photon or electron the moving particle either has an associated external aether displacement wave or the photon or electron 'particle' consists of a very small region of the aether displacement wave itself and how this applies to what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment.

[77Gslinger]

There is no such thing as an ether wave! Russellian Science explains these phenomena without archaic and antiquated terms like ether or ether waves. You would first have to demonstrate the validity of ether as an "object" of study and nobody has ever done that. 'It has always been nothing more than a hypothetical medium.

Which particular defintion of ether are you using in your ether wave theory? Please define it for me so what I know what you are talking about, since there are various defintions attributed to the ether or aether as it is sometimes spelled.

The objection I have to using terms like ether, nuclear atom and plasma being dislodged electrons in a gaseous form, using the fake nuke atom theory as its foundation, is that is makes it easy for academics to attack and even dissenting academics like wiley bill gaede who has just attacked the EUM recently due to the language employed, in his latest vid. "27 Electric Universe Poppycock" which you can see on youtube. I would like to see some of you folks who support the EUM take him on and defend the EUM against his attacks rather than just censoring him as has been done here.

Although I do not support Bill as a person for his materialism and Creator-less views, he is correct in his attack on the language used by the new EUM. I tried to warn Wal and David a decade ago about this issue, but never heard back from either of them. Russellian Science is the first EUM (1926) and is immune to attacks from academics and Materialists. I suggested Wal and David integrate it into the latest finds in their EUM research, but they passed it over. It is high time to integrate it sueprior defintions into the mix and explain the causes as well as the many effects they have cataloged and showcased in their research.

I would suggest dropping the ether term since it is easily derided. The answers to the properties of the so-called ether are found in Russellian Science.

[mpc755]

Aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of a solid.

What is presently postulated as (non-baryonic) dark matter is aether. Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter.

This is what Voyager found evidence of.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/de ... yager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar space is compacting it."

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

[77Gslinger]

Ok, I saw the nasa report but that is not proof of an ether. It actually supports Russellian Science which shows that the Voyager is approaching the "wave field boundary" of our Sun. The use of the ether concept leaves one wide open to attack by the very sources the EUM is debunking (quackademia). I would flee from that term and its meaning. You still have not told me which defintion of an ether you are using to discuss this with me. There are many, which is your favorite variety?

You should begin looking into Russellian Science which is the first EUM model (1926) unkonwn to most modern EUM theorists. It is far more complex, comprehensive and complete and does not suffer from the many problems associated with academic language which EUM theorists unfortunately deferred to in their explantions of these processes (plasma, ether, electrons, nuke atoms etc.). Like I said it is easy for people like bill gaede to make a mockery of EUM in its current condition of being defined by debunked academic terms. This is a major oversight by those who are supporting the many electric universe discoveries which are disproving the backwards gravity based theories from newton to einstein and others of their ilk.

Please consider assessing Walter Russell's work. I know from studying it for the past decade it is far in advance of the modern EUM theories focusing on the effects they observe. Russell's work is transcendent and is not based on empirical work, it comes from "kwnoing" which is a much more advanced understanding of reality than the sensory based observations regarding effects. Russellian Science explains both causes and effects, which is superior to just looking at effects and categorizing them.

[mpc755]

Ok, I saw the nasa report but that is not proof of an ether. It actually supports Russellian Science which shows that the Voyager is approaching the "wave field boundary" of our Sun. The use of the ether concept leaves one wide open to attack by the very sources the EUM is debunking (quackademia). I would flee from that term and its meaning. You still have not told me which defintion of an ether you are using to discuss this with me. There are many, which is your favorite variety.

Aether Displacement.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

This is what Voyager found evidence of.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/de ... yager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar space is compacting it."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of a solid.

The galaxy clusters in the following article are not traveling with dark matter. The galaxy clusters are moving through the aether. The galaxy clusters displace the aether.

'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubbl ... ature.html

"Astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark mater, which is somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water."

The 'pond' consists of aether. The moving 'particles' are the galaxy clusters. The 'ripple' is a gravitational wave. The 'ripple' is an aether displacement wave.

The above is physical evidence of a moving 'particle' having an associated aether displacement wave.

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

"any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium"

The hidden medium is the aether. The "energetic contact" is the state of displacement of the aether.

'A quantum take on certainty'
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110602/ ... 1.344.html

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined trajectory which takes it through one slit. The associated aether wave passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit turns the associated aether wave into chop. The aether waves exiting the slits interact with the detectors and become many short waves with irregular motion. The waves become disorderly. The waves are disorganized. There is no wave interference. The particle pitches and rolls through the chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and it no longer creates an interference pattern.

'Dark Halo Around Our Galaxy Looks Like Squished Beach Ball'
http://www.space.com/7746-dark-halo-gal ... -ball.html

"Dark matter seems to shroud the remaining visible matter in giant spheres called haloes."

The Milky Way's halo is displaced aether.

"But the new study found that the Milky Way's halo isn't exactly spherical, but squished. In fact, its beach-ball form is flattened in a surprising direction perpendicular to the galaxy's visible, pancake-shaped spiral disk."

All of the aether displaced by the Milky Way matter pushes back toward the Milky Way. The pressure exerted toward the matter by the aether displaced perpendicular to the plane of the galaxy's spiral disk offset. It is the aether which is displaced outward relative to the plane of the spiral disk which pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward the center of the galaxy. This forces the matter closer together which results in the displaced aether looking like a squished beach ball.

Matter does not move with dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.

'Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a sample of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies'
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract

"We compile a sample of 38 galaxy clusters which have both X-ray and strong lensing observations, and study for each cluster the projected offset between the dominant component of baryonic matter centre (measured by X-rays) and the gravitational centre (measured by strong lensing). Among the total sample, 45 per cent clusters have offsets [greater than]10 arcsec. The [greater than]10 arcsec separations are significant, considering the arcsecond precision in the measurement of the lensing/X-ray centres. This suggests that it might be a common phenomenon in unrelaxed galaxy clusters that gravitational field is separated spatially from the dominant component of baryonic matter. It also has consequences for lensing models of unrelaxed clusters since the gas mass distribution may differ from the dark matter distribution and give perturbations to the modelling. Such offsets can be used as a statistical tool for comparison with the results of Lambda cold dark matter ( CDM) simulations and to test the modified dynamics."

The offset is due to the galaxy clusters moving through the aether. The analogy is a submarine moving through the water. You are under water. Two miles away from you are many lights. Moving between you and the lights one mile away is a submarine. The submarine displaces the water. The state of displacement of the water causes the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water to be offset from the center of the submarine itself. The offset between the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water displaced by the submarine and the center of the submarine itself is going to remain the same as the submarine moves through the water. The submarine continually displaces different regions of the water. The state of the water connected to and neighboring the submarine remains the same as the submarine moves through the water even though it is not the same water the submarine continually displaces. This is what is occurring physically in nature as the galaxy clusters move through the aether.

'Was the universe born spinning?'
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46688

"The universe was born spinning and continues to do so around a preferred axis"

The Universe spins around a preferred axis because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is in, a jet; analogous to the polar jet of a black hole.

'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/new ... 0-023.html

'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.'

The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is in, a jet.

The following is an image analogous of the Universal jet.

http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html

The reason for the 'expansion' of the universe is the continual emission of aether into the Universal jet. Three dimensional space associated with the Universe itself is not expanding. What we see in our telescopes is the matter associated with the Universe moving outward and away from the Universal jet emission point. In the image above, '1st Stars' is where the increase in pressure caused by the aether continually being emitted into the Universal jet causes the aether to condense into matter.

The following is an image analogous of the Universe, or the local Universe, we exist in.

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/planetarium/g ... ckHole.jpg

The following is an image analogous of the Universal spin.

http://i.space.com/images/i/612/i02/040 ... 1292259454

Dark flow is the aether emitted into the Universal jet. Dark energy is the change in state of the aether emitted into the Universal jet.

It's not the Big Bang; it's the Big Ongoing.

Einstein's definition of motion as applied to the ether is defined throughout the following article as the ether does not consist of individual particles which can be separately tracked through time.

I interpret Einstein's definition of motion as applied to the ether to mean it can not be known if ether consists of particles or not.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html

"if, in fact nothing else whatever were observable than the shape of the space occupied by the water as it varies in time, we should have no ground for the assumption that water consists of movable particles. But all the same we could characterise it as a medium."

"There may be supposed to be extended physical objects to which the idea of motion cannot be applied. They may not be thought of as consisting of particles which allow themselves to be separately tracked through time."

"The special theory of relativity forbids us to assume the ether to consist of particles observable through time, but the hypothesis of ether in itself is not in conflict with the special theory of relativity."

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable;...But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it."

Every time Einstein mentions motion as applied to the ether it is defined as the ether does not consist of individual particles which can be separately tracked through time. This is different than Einstein's definition of mobility as applied to the ether.

The ether of general relativity is mobile.

"It may be added that the whole change in the conception of the ether which the special theory of relativity brought about, consisted in taking away from the ether its last mechanical quality, namely, its immobility."

The mobility of the ether of relatiivty as determined by its connections with the matter is the state of displacement of the aether.

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the ether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the ether.

"Since according to our present conceptions the elementary particles of matter are also, in their essence, nothing else than condensations of the electromagnetic field"

The electromagnetic field is a state of the aether.

Matter is condensations of aether.

DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish; however, the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether.

Matter evaporates into aether.

As matter converts to aether it expands in three dimensional space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring aether and matter is energy.

When a nuclear bomb explodes matter evaporates into aether. The evaporation is energy. Mass is conserved.

A change in state of that which has mass is energy.