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the brain eaters!

Unread postby Sparky » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:21 am

"It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong."
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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby Sparky » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:38 pm

"It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong."
"Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one."
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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby tayga » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:01 pm

As a chemist, I never bought prion theory. The fact is that all of the changes attributed to prions can be caused by substituting tetrahedrally-coordinated manganese (II) for square planar-coordinated copper (II) in the proteins concerned offered a far simpler explanation for the pathology. Especially when its incidence is principally in areas where manganese levels are high and where copper-binding organophosphates agents have been used.

If you're interested, Mark Purdey (now deceased) investigated this thoroughly. You might find some interesting parallels between Mark's battle with consensus science and those experienced by Electric Universe supporters.

http://www.markpurdey.com/index.html

It was studying Mark Purdey, and Gary Taubes' writings on the lack of science behind the Low Fat doctrine, that opened my eyes to the possibility that large swathes of consensus science might be a triumph of dogma over research.
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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby Sparky » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:08 am

"It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong."
"Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one."
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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby ElecGeekMom » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:43 pm

Yes.

Check out the Mark Purdey site. It was a combination of factors. The mangangese-copper issue, the excessive use of organophosphate insecticides, and excessive stimulation of a neurological type. He also factors in the fallout from Chernobyl for the problem in the UK.

His homegrown, organically-raised cattle did not get mad cow disease. He went to court to obtain the right to NOT use the mandated organophosphate pesticides on his cattle.

He continued doing research after developing his hypothesis (which he got published in a journal), and found other combinations of similar factors that led to the development of similar diseases in other species. It's an interesting (though technical) read.
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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby flyingcloud » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:03 pm

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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby flyingcloud » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:04 pm

all they need is a driver

or are they the driver of the driven
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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby tayga » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:33 am

tayga


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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby Sparky » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:37 am

tayga, and others, sorry to have overlooked thread for some time now...in my manic postings,,, well as manic as one can get, using a dellosaurs on dialup, i just missed seeing the thread for some reason..... :oops:

Thanks for the alternative ideas... didn't this type disease [kuru] show up in some native tribes that practiced cannibalism ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)

how would that jibe with "environmental insults "?

thanks,
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Re: the brain eaters!

Unread postby Sparky » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:54 pm

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