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Re: JUPITER AND IO - AND DMITRIEV!

Unread postby Sandra Rodriguez » Fri May 16, 2008 8:17 am

Hi StefanR, and Nick, and Gary, and Michael!

Actually, what I like best about Dmitriev is that he does not give “doomsday” conclusions. He of course states the facts about catastrophes that have happened and those that may yet come to pass, but what he underlines is the awesome opportunities that the ongoing transformations entail for our evolution.

Dmitriev explains, when delving on Vacuum Domains, that our world is being subject to what we might call a sort of energetic insemination (please excuse a laywoman’s description of a phenomenon she can hardly grasp), a "donation of energy/matter" by virtue of which we are witnessing the transformation of the nature of Nature, the emergence of a “world within worlds” or of "interworld processes" that bring us the chance to literally leap unto a higher state of consciousness.

Dmitriev goes as far as to state that: “There are reasons favoring, or pointing to, the fact that a growth in the ethical, or spiritual quality, of humanity would decrease the number and intensity of complex catastrophes. “

If you go over the Conclusions again, you’ll notice he wrote:

“All of this places humanity, and each one of us, squarely in front of a very difficult and topical problem; the creation of a revolutionary advancement in knowledge which will require a transformation of our thinking and being equal to this never-before-seen phenomena now presencing itself in our world.

There is no other path to the future than a profound internal experiential perception and knowledge of the events now underway in the natural environment that surrounds us. It is only through this understanding that humanity will achieve balance with the renewing flow of the PlanetoPhysical States and Processes.”

Ready to surf the Renewing Flow?

Here’s another very relevant link:

Planetophysical Function Of Vacuum Domains
A.N. Dmitriev , V.L. Dyatlov , A.V. Tetenov
http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/planetary/pfvd.html

Thanks for writing! Keep in touch...

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Dmitriev and McCanney

Unread postby Steve Smith » Fri May 16, 2008 8:40 am

Whenever I read these sorts of comments in so-called "scientific" theories I'm reminded of my favorite cartoon:

"There are reasons favoring, or pointing to, the fact that a growth in the ethical, or spiritual quality, of humanity would decrease the number and intensity of complex catastrophes."

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Re: A FEW THOUGHTS ON DMITRIEV

Unread postby Sandra Rodriguez » Fri May 16, 2008 5:05 pm

Hi Steve!

Your cartoon is a blast! The way cartoons go, that is...
However, the way cosmology goes, we better pay attention to the final of Dmitriev’s quoted conclusions:

“All of this places humanity, and each one of us, squarely in front of a very difficult and topical problem; the creation of a revolutionary advancement in knowledge which will require a transformation of our thinking and being equal to this never-before-seen phenomena now presencing itself in our world.”

I shall repeat that I am not a scientist, but someone eagerly trying to understand more, and grow. In that pursuit I have become aware of the immense body of thought and research that is, to this date, not being considered as thoroughly as it should. That applies very specifically to the pioneering work by N.A. Kozyrev. I bring up his name because I surmise that the statement you object by Dmitriev is based (at least, in part) on Kozyrev’s postulates.

A quote that I think we could associate to Dmitriev’s assertion comes from Fundamentals Of N.A.Kozyrev’s Causal Mechanics, by L. S. Shikhobalov:

“In recent years some publications have appeared which confirm the results of theoretical, laboratory and astronomical investigations performed by N.A.Kozyrev.

The authors of papers (Danchakov 1984; Danchakov and Yeganova 1987; Lavrentyev et al. 1991) have performed a long series of laboratory experiments using N.A.Kozyrev’s procedure and obtained the results confirming and amplifying N.A.Kozyrev’s data on distant action of irreversible processes on the states of ambient bodies.”

On the other hand, Dr. Albert Wilson of the Douglas Research Laboratories in California, said:

“I feel that something very much like what Kozyrev has hypothesized will be established in physical theory within the next decade or two. Its implications will be revolutionary. It could take a generation of work before the leap he has taken can be incorporated into the body of scientific knowledge.”

Here are some links:

FUNDAMENTALS OF N.A.KOZYREV’S CAUSAL MECHANICS
L. S. Shikhobalov
http://www.chronos.msu.ru/EREPORTS/shik ... entals.htm

What Can Be Obtained From The Substantial
Conception Of Time ?
L. S. Shikhobalov
In memory of Nikolay Alexandrovich Kozyrev
http://www.chronos.msu.ru/EREPORTS/shik ... 2_what.pdf

A Substantial Interpretation Of N.A.Kozyrev’s
Conception Of Time
A. P. Levich
http://72.30.186.56/search/cache?ei=UTF ... 1&.intl=ar

Hope they are of use to you.

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Re: Dmitriev's Thoughts on Jupiter / Io Plasma

Unread postby moses » Sat May 17, 2008 3:46 am

Dmitriev wrote that the double layer around the Solar System was getting
brighter in a sector. We need more evidence of this. Earthquakes are still
occurring way above average. Something is probably happening and this is
electrical input. If there is greater electrical input into Earth, then this would
translate into more electrical flow through humans and this means more
kundalini which would have significant effects. So rather than humans
effecting the cosmos, it is the cosmos that effects humans.
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Re: Dmitriev's Thoughts on Jupiter / Io Plasma

Unread postby Sandra Rodriguez » Sat May 17, 2008 5:24 pm

Hi Moses,

Of course, you are right – and that is exactly what Dmitriev states in Planetophysical State of the Earth and Life, particularly in the last part, or Conclusions. There he points out that:

“living organisms of those regions of Earth having the major ‘inlets’, or attractions, for cosmic influences will be taking the lead in evolving life's appropriate reactions, or processes, to these new conditions. These zones of vertical commutations and energy transfers are already becoming the heart, or hotbeds, in the search for new systems of adaptation and mutual transformation.”

Here is the quote, in context:

“It is reasonable to point out that our Planet will soon be experiencing these new conditions of growing energy signifying the transition into a new state and quality of Space-Earth relationship.

The living organisms of those regions of Earth having the major "inlets", or attractions, for cosmic influences will be taking the lead in evolving life's appropriate reactions, or processes, to these new conditions.

These zones of vertical commutations and energy transfers are already becoming the heart, or hotbeds, in the search for new systems of adaptation and mutual transformation. The general list of these zones includes:

the polar regions,

the eastern continental extremities of the equatorial regions [Caribbean, Madagascar, Philippines, Yellow Sea, etc.],

and the inner continental zones tending to folding and uplifting [Himalayas, Pamir-Hindukush, Altay-Sayan systems, etc.] [Note by Sandra Rodriguez: and the ANDES, and the ROCKY MOUNTAINS, from the perspective and experiences of those of us who live in the Americas.]

The most significant of these areas are the helio-sensitive zones which have intense responses to geoeffective solar activities; responses that include the very dramatic and unusual manifestation of non-homogeneous vacuum, or classical non-mechanical ether, domain structures.

These structures, or objects, then interact with the heliosensitive zones producing deep and powerful effects upon the environment such as the alteration of seismic activities, and chemical compositions. Because these non-homogeneous vacuum domain objects display not-of-this-physical-world characteristics such as "liquid light" and "non-Newtonian movement" it is difficult not to describe their manifestations as being "interworld processes".

It is important to note that those heliosensitive zones that exhibit middle and large scale processes are also those that are closely associated with these "interworld processes" produced by physical vacuum homogeneity disturbances.

Such disturbances cause, and create, energy and matter transfer processes between the ether media and our three-dimensional world.

The multitude of such phenomena, which is rich in it's quality and variety, is already growing quickly. Hundreds of thousands of these natural self-luminous formations are exerting a increasing influence upon Earth's geophysic fields and biosphere. We suggest that the presence of these formations is the mainstream precedent to the transformation of Earth; an Earth which becomes more and more subject to the transitional physical processes which exist within the borderland between the physical vacuum and our material world.

All of this places humanity, and each one of us, squarely in front of a very difficult and topical problem; the creation of a revolutionary advancement in knowledge which will require a transformation of our thinking and being equal to this never-before-seen phenomena now presencing itself in our world.

There is no other path to the future than a profound internal experiential perception and knowledge of the events now underway in the natural environment that surrounds us. It is only through this understanding that humanity will achieve balance with the renewing flow of the PlanetoPhysical States and Processes.

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This essay by Dmitriev is obviously a very “general” type of text that tries to convey an extremely specialized subject to the common reader, while keeping within the constraints that scientists demand.

Surfing the Internet, I found out that other prominent figures of the Russian Academy of Sciences have been researching and writing for many years on these and even more ‘controversial’ subjects, and those still living continue to do so. I surmise that Dmitriev’s work takes into account the findings and postulates by N.A. Kozyrev and G. Shipov, among others. It is of no small import that those scientists were struggling to do their work and make it be known even under the reactionary and repressive policies they endured in the past. We read that Kozyrev came unto his most notable insights while being in prison.

Although I’m no expert on these subjects, I would confidently recommend some articles available in English
(regarding those available in Russian all I can do is use digital translation devices, not very helpful, to be sure).

John Paily
Breakthroughs of N.A.Kozyrev, Alexey Dmitriev
http://www.geocities.com/quantum_realit ... arison.htm

N. A. Kozyrev
POSSIBILITY OF EXPERIMENTAL STUDY OF
PROPERTIES OF TIME
http://www.safeswiss.org/arbeitsgruppen ... f_Time.pdf

G. Shipov
THEORY OF PHYSICAL VACUUM
THE NEW SCIENTIFIC PARADIGM
http://www.shipov.com/science.html

THE THEORY OF PHYSICAL VACUUM
FOR EVERYBODY
G. Shipov, Moscow 1999
http://shipov.com/science.html

I hope these links are useful.
Sandra
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Jupiters develops NEW RED SPOT!

Unread postby FS3 » Sun May 25, 2008 11:19 am

In line with all those recent changes in our solar system - most possibly due to enhanced EM-activity by our Sun - a former white spot on Jupiter, northeast of the Little Red Spot (in the pic below that one on the left), has turned RED as well.

The on May 9 and 10 with its Wide Field and Planetary Camera 2.

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Along with the from a distance of approximately 1.5 million miles (2.4 mill.kms) from Jupiter at a resolution of 14.4 km (8.9 miles) per pixel that told us more about the Little Red Spot (LRS). The maximum winds speeds there of about 384 miles per hour (between 155 - 190 meters per second) far exceed a Category 5 storm on Earth!

"The new observations confirm that the thermal structures, wind speeds, and cloud features of the LRS are very similar to those of the GRS,"
says Dr. Hal Weaver, a member of the study team from APL and New Horizons project scientist. "Both the LRS and the GRS extend into the stratosphere, to far higher altitudes than for the smaller storms on Jupiter."

But still a mystery remains of why the GRS, the LRS and now this third one, may be so red.

One possibility of which is that storm winds dredge up material from below," said Dr. Amy Simon-Miller of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md., as well as a possibility that interactions with the UV-Solar rays might produce some "unknown, chemical reaction" of the dredged material...

Don't miss the connected thread at:
New discovery at Jupiter
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... ?f=4&t=119

...Perhaps you will get a clue how currents of electric current of up to 5 million Amps can change colors of volatile elements...

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Re: Jupiters finally goes "electric"! The CHARGED rings

Unread postby shrunkensimon » Sun May 25, 2008 11:27 am

Very interesting!

Im quite interested in all these new changes occuring in our solar system at present, as the timing seems to be coinciding with the whole "2012" thing. If anyone knows the connection between EU and 2012, please PM me! Thanks :D
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Re: Jupiters develops NEW RED SPOT!

Unread postby MGmirkin » Sun May 25, 2008 12:41 pm

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Seeing RED on Jupiter...

Unread postby FS3 » Sun May 25, 2008 1:59 pm

Back to the RED SPOT on Jupiter for a moment.

As I remember, the element Helium (He) has a characteristic color of near salmon pink towards the reddish when bombarded with the right amount of electricity and appropriate temperature and pressure - e.g. in a low voltage fluorescent lamp.

Similar to our Sun, the Helium plasma emits light when electrons from the ionized Helium give off energy in the form of photons as they return to a lower energy level. If not too hot (5,000°C or so) so it may turn otherwise into "Black-body"-emission, glowing all across the spectrum (white), as almost any substance will do at high temperatures.

Jupiter is perpetually covered with clouds composed of Ammonium with a core - possibly made of Hydrogen. The atmosphere contains 86 percent Hydrogen, 14 percent Helium according to . Amounts of Methane, Ammonia, Phosphine, Water, Acetylene, Ethane, Germanium, and Carbon Monoxide have been estimated as well. The temperature at the top of Jupiter's clouds is about -145° C.

The oval object, known as the "Great Red Spot" since appr. the year 1600, rotates counterclockwise, with a period of about 6 days. The planet Jupiter itself rotates faster than any other planets (9 hours 56 minutes to spin around once on its axis). The spot remains at the same distance from the equator but drifts slowly east and west. These Jovian phenomenons(zones, belts, and the Great Red Spot) are much more stable than similar circulation systems on Earth.

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The exact makeup of those Red Spots remains uncertain (they elevate appr. about 8 kms higher than their surrounding clouds), but the substances involved are believed to be Phosphorus, Sulfur or possibly Hydrocarbons. These colorful compounds, known as chromophores, mix with the warmer, lower deck of clouds and may be due to small amounts of Sulfur and Phosphorus in the Ammonia crystals. The zones are formed when rising convection cells form crystallizing Ammonia that masks out Jupiter's lower clouds from view.

Interesting clues about "whaz under" could have been provided by the impact of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 on Jupiter in 1994 - as a series of "maroon"-colored blotches in this photo show:
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Again, those blotches went in direction of the red side of the spectrum...

So, could those Red Spots be as well an effect closely tied to electrical phenomenons, after all?

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Re: Jupiter finally goes "electric"!

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Auroral "Flare" @ Jupiter?

Unread postby MGmirkin » Sun May 25, 2008 7:34 pm

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DANGER: High Voltage Auroras!

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Re: Jupiter finally goes "electric"!

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Re: Jupiter finally goes "electric"!

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