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Electric Europa

Unread postby iantresman » Wed May 14, 2008 4:48 pm

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Re: Pole Shift on Europa?

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Thu May 15, 2008 10:02 am

Don't know if you've heard of these folks or if it's any use:
http://www.flem-ath.com/
Basically their stuff is based on Hapgood crustal displacement theory. Not the best orgainsed site on the web and it's loading very slowly at the minute.
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Re: Pole Shift on Europa?

Unread postby Steve Smith » Sat May 17, 2008 2:54 pm

They do this all the time -- release information as "new" when its been discussed for seven years.



Says that ice build up, a "decoupled ocean" and the other factors are responsible for polar wander. Of course, they don't know that the poles have "wandered" and the features they're describing are not "strike slip faults" and they believe that heat from below "proves" a Europan ocean...

Frankly, its my opnion that Europa isn't ice at all, its probably silicon and oxygen and iron, etc. just like the other moons. It may have a thin coating of ice, but those "cracks" in its surface are EDM artifacts.

The same problems we encounter with cosmological theories are found in planetary geology.
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Re: Pole Shift on Europa?

Unread postby StefanR » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:40 am



Exploration of the outer solar system has led to studies in a new area of physics: electronically induced sputtering of low-temperature, condensed-gas solids (ices). Many of the icy bodies in the outer solar system were found to be bombarded by relatively intense fluxes of ions and electrons, causing both changes in their optical reflectance and ejection (sputtering) of molecules from their surfaces. The small cohesive energies of the condensed-gas solids afford relatively large sputtering rates from the electronic excitations produced in the solid by fast ions and electrons. Such sputtering produces an ambient gas about an icy body, often the source of the local plasma. This colloquium outlines the physics of the sputtering of ices and its relevance to several outer-solar-system phenomena: the sputter-produced plasma trapped in Saturn's magnetosphere; the O2 atmosphere on Europa; and optical absorption features such as SO2 in the surface of Europa and O2 and, possibly, O3 in the surface of Ganymede.

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Re: Pole Shift on Europa?

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Jupiter moon's ocean rich in oxygen

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Re: Jupiter moon's ocean rich in oxygen

Unread postby mharratsc » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:53 pm

These guys have got some very active imaginations... already speculating on the amount of marine biology that could be supported by those "vast liquid oceans" under all that ice! :roll:


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Re: Jupiter moon's ocean rich in oxygen

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Re: Jupiter moon's ocean rich in oxygen

Unread postby mharratsc » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:30 am

For a different perspective on what happened on Europa, and it's physical characteristics, may I suggest the TPOD Archives> by subject> under Moons> articles regarding Europa.


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Re: Jupiter moon's ocean rich in oxygen

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Europa is not ice covered.

Unread postby remelic » Thu May 13, 2010 9:25 am

I think that Europa is actually a ball of metal and the orange/red color is iron dust. The cracks are discharge paths over this very conductive surface. It looks like a ball of Iron that has no way of oxidizing... What ever it is I don't believe it is an ice covered sphere. What do you think?

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I predict that they will go there looking for ice to drill through but they will discover that the surface is actually metal. And waist a lot of money in the process...

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Re: Europa is not ice covered.

Unread postby jjohnson » Thu May 13, 2010 11:27 am

What evidence prompted you to think that? Just curious because other materials (organics, phosphorus compounds, some paint pigments like red lead, etc.) can be a similar shade of dark brownish red, too, so it's possibly pretty speculative unless you or NASA have some spectrographic evidence that sunlight is being reflected from iron oxide deposits on the surface. The white parts look fairly white in photos from a closer perspective and better resolution, often interpreted as an ice (water and CO2 for two examples observed on Mars).

I'm not saying it's not iron oxide, although the entire rusty metal ball concept seems a little bit of a stretch for this skeptic.
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Re: Europa is not ice covered.

Unread postby remelic » Thu May 13, 2010 11:50 am

You are right it is complete speculation and it may not be iron. Are there other moons with ice near Europa? where did the water come from? It just makes me wonder if they are right about the ice... I would imagine that a lot of people agree that it is ice? I don't know. :?

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Re: Europa is not ice covered.

Unread postby MattEU » Fri May 14, 2010 2:07 am

hello remelic, clicked through to look at your books - is your "magnetic universe" book an EU book or a variation of it? any chance of a free copy so i can review it for the forum members ;)
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