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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

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The Return of the Nephalim

The Great Old Ones of the Lovecraftian Legend
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc ... real15.htm
The Secret Doctrine given to the elite castes of mankind by the “Anunnaki” (the gods of ancient Sumeria and Atlantis), has been passed down through the ages, not only to the Masons, Templars, Rosicrucians, and other fraternal orders which perpetuate the tradition, but also to the teenage geeks and “gamers” of today.

The “Grail Blood" and the “bloodline of the Great Old Ones” are the same thing. They also represent the same archetypes as legendary sea-monsters such as Leviathan or Dagon, the “Lords of the Deep” and gods of the “underworld”, or “Abyss” recorded in the legends of many ancient cultures.

It takes only a cursory examination of H.P. Lovecraft’s most quintessential work, The Call of Cthulhu to see that his entire system of mythology is based on The Book of Enoch, the Nephilim story in Genesis, and the universal tale of the fall of Atlantis.

In this story, Lovecraft’s main character finds a strange carved idol in his late grand-uncle’s affects.

The description of the idol bears a striking resemblance to the descriptions of the Sumerian god-king Enki, also known as Dagon or Oannes, a half-human, half-fish combination who was known as the “Lord of the Flood", and was said to rise out of the sea every day to teach his secret knowledge to those who followed him.

He is mentioned in I Samuel:5, when the Philistines capture the Ark of the Covenant and place it in the Temple of Dagon.

This is exactly the behavior that is ascribed to the sons of the Watchers, or Nephilim, the giants who wrought havoc upon the world, oppressed and devoured all of the gods’ living creation to feed their own voracious appetites. Because of the pride and destructive behavior of the Great Old Ones, their empire city, R’lyeh, sank beneath the ocean as part of a punishment by natural disaster mercifully imposed by God.

This is exactly what is said to have happened to the island kingdom of Atlantis, which also sank because of the pride of its inhabitants. It is also what is said about the Nephilim in the Bible, who, along with their offspring, were destroyed by God via the Flood of Noah. The fact that the Great Old Ones are lead by a being called “Cthulhu” is significant, for “Thule” is another name for Atlantis, and the Nazis believed that it was literally located inside the Earth, in the “underworld”, the city of “Agartha” or “Agade”, the “abode of the Gods.”

The “Hollow Earth”, or underworld seems to be the place where R’lyeh ultimately sank to, where Cthulhu and the rest of the Great Old Ones now remain, sleeping in their watery tomb, “dead but dreaming”, as Lovecraft now describes it. There they are, waiting for the day when they will awaken, their city rise from the waves, and their empire once again hold dominion over the whole earth.

This echoes the story of the Watchers or the Nephilim, who were said to be imprisoned by God inside the Earth, or in “the Abyss”, which was a word used by the ancients to describe the ocean. The theme of a subterranean Lord, imprisoned in the underworld, who will one day awaken from his death-like slumber to reclaim his kingdom is, as I have established in other articles, a very common archetype, most notable in the form of Kronos.

Called “the Forgotten Father” and “the Hidden One”, Kronos was the leader of the Titans, and the King of Atlantis, whose kingdom was cast down into the Abyss, and who was imprisoned therein, to be thereafter known as “the Dark Lord” of the underworld. And there is clearly an etymological connection between “Titan” and “Teitan”, otherwise spelled “Satan.”

The Titans, or Satans, and the Nephilim are clearly the same as the Great Old Ones, and Kronos, otherwise known as Saturn, or Satan, is clearly the same as Cthulhu. As I have established, he is also synonymous with Dagon or Oannes, who is referred to in the Bible as Leviathan, the beast who will rise from the sea at the Apocalypse. The return of Cthulhu, the Great Old Ones, and the city of R’lyeh would appear to be Lovecraft’s way of depicting the Apocalypse.

When the main character in The Call of Cthulhu manages to interview an actual member of the Cthulhu cult to determine their beliefs, the descriptions parallel precisely the tales of the Nephilim, the Titans, and the war in Heaven between God and Lucifer, as well as the fall of the Atlantean empire.

This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in the distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the Great Priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R’lyeh under the waters should rise and bring the Earth again under his sway. Some day he would call, when the stars were ready, and the secret cult would always be ready to liberate him.

This clearly describes the secret Luciferian doctrine of the gods being transmitted to their offspring, “the first man”, just as the serpent gave wisdom to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

They created a covenant with that man, and a cult of magic, of ritual and sacrifice, in order to preserve their infernal secrets, one of which is so secret that it could not be talked about, only whispered.

This is what has been done in the rites of Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, the Knights Templar, the Greek and Egyptian mystery schools, the Sufis, the Assassins, and countless other secret occult orders, which Lovecraft was no doubt alluding to when he referred to the “cult which had never died... had always existed, and always would exist”, preserving the teachings of the “Forgotten Father” until such time as he should rise again from the sea to once more rule the Earth. The connections to Leviathan and the rise of the Antichrist do not even need to be elucidated.

Lovecraft, like the prophet Enoch, and like ancient man himself, conceived of the Atlantean gods or Nephilim as possessing supernatural power, and, like Enoch, says that this power comes from the stars - that these beings in fact had come from the stars themselves, and seem to be metaphysically affected by the movement of the stars, being able to resurrect from the dead only when the stars were in a certain position.

Likewise, the Atlantean god-kings purposely associated themselves with the stars and the planets, taking on the personifications of planets and constellations, each of which had a particular “energy” or plain of existence associated with it.

This energy is further manipulated by the prayers and rituals of the cult members in Lovecraft’s stories, who are loyal to the Great Old Ones, and wish to see their kingdom rise again. In much the same way, Masons, Rosicrucians and other occultists today perform rituals in hope of bringing about the “Great Work” called the “New World Order”, a new Golden Age, just like the one that covered the antediluvian world when the Atlantean god-kings (whom they revere) ruled over the Earth directly.

The Eye in the Pyramid on our dollar bill, which represents the New World Order, is clearly a symbol of this newly-risen kingdom of Atlantis, “watched over” by the All-Seeing Eye, which could just as easily be the eye of Dagon, or Leviathan, or Cthulhu. It even looks reptilian, like it belongs on the face of a dragon.

The rise of R’lyeh, the New World Order, the New Atlantis, the New Jerusalem, the Golden Age, and even the Apocalypse - these are all terms for the same resurrection of the ancient global kingdom of the gods.

Such a resurrection is also described in Aleister Crowley’s The Book of the Law when he writes about the coming “Age of Horus” and the return of the rule of the gods, as well as their offspring, the human “kings”.

This age of the glorious rule of the Old Ones, and the land which they ruled over, is so imilar to Atlantis, Thule, Lemuria, and all of the other mythical lost civilizations as to be blatantly obvious, and it is clear that it was the biblical Deluge that put an end to their kingdom.

In The Nameless City, he delves explicitly into the hollow Earth, describing the discovery of a subterranean passage filled with the caskets of dead reptilian bodies, who ad obviously, at one time, lived inside the Earth.

This is clearly another reference to the recurring theme in Lovecraft’s work of sunken Atlantis rising from the ocean, which as we have established, is also a common theme in world mythology.

Clearly, then, what this character has discovered are the remains of a high civilization of sea-faring, ocean-obsessed people, which is exactly what Atlantis is described as being, and why their kings, or “gods” were depicted as half-man, half-fish.

As I have previously established, Dagon, one of the kings of Atlantis, was symbolically the same as Kronos, Oannes, Enki, and therefore Satan. He was one of the Nephilim, Watchers, or fallen angels upon which Lovecraft’s “Great Old Ones” are based.

The themes alluded to in Lovecraft’s work were taken to their utmost conclusion by the authors and editors of The Necronomicon, based on the imaginary grimoire that Lovecraft wrote of repeatedly in connection to Cthulhu and the Old Ones. This was supposedly a book of black magic with spells aimed at causing the sunken city of R’lyeh to rise again, and the “dead but dreaming” Old Ones to awaken from their slumber.

“The Necronomicon is, according to Lovecraft’s tales, a volume written in Damascus in the Eighth Century, A.D., by a person called the ‘Mad Arab’, Abdul Alhazred. It must run roughly 800 pages in length, as there is a reference in one of the stories concerning some lacunae on a page in the 700’s. It had been copied and reprinted in various languages - the story goes - among them Latin, Greek and English.

Doctor Dee, the Magus of Elizabethan fame, was supposed to have possessed a copy and translated it. This book, according to the mythos, contains the formulae for evoking incredible things into visible appearance, beings and monsters which dwell in the Abyss and Outer Space of the human psyche.”

The system of gods, legends, and rituals presented in the book are as old as civilization itself, having originated from the oldest civilization accepted by historians, one of the greatest states in the empire of the god-kings of Atlantis: ancient Sumeria.

There is a dualistic notion inserted into The Necronomicon that is completely absent in Lovecraft’s work. Lovecraft’s “Old Ones” were primordial beings, beyond good and evil. That was the essence of their power. In The Necronomicon, the “Great Old Ones” have been split into two factions: the “Elder Gods” and the “Ancient Ones” - the good guys and the bad guys.

“Basically there are two ‘sets’ of gods in the mythos: the Elder Gods, about whom not much is written, save that they are a stellar race that occasionally comes to the rescue of man, and which corresponds to the Christian ‘light’; and the Ancient Ones, about whom much is told, sometimes in great detail, who correspond to Darkness.

These latter are the Evil Gods who wish nothing but ill for the Race of Man, and who constantly strive to break into our world through a gate or door that leads from the Outside In. There are certain people among us, who are devotees of the Ancient Ones, and who try to open the Gate, so that this evidently repulsive organization may once again rule the Earth. Chief among this is Cthulhu, typified as a Sea Monster, dwelling in the Great Deep, a sort of primeval Ocean...”

I have sincerely tried to figure out what the essential difference is between the Ancient Ones and the Elder Gods.

The Elder Gods are lead by a great trinity: Anu, Enlil and Enki, three of the most well-known ancient god-kings of Sumeria, and perhaps, Atlantis. Anu held the seat of kingship, the inheritance of which was disputed by his sons, Enki and Enlil, leading to a catastrophic war that destroyed much of the Earth.

This is recorded in the Sumerian Enuma Elish, as well as the biblical tale of the “war in Heaven.” In the Sumerian texts, there is a race of gods descended from this trinity called the “Anunnaki”, analogous to the “sons of God” of the Bible, or the “Watchers” of The Book of Enoch.

In The Necronomicon the strife between Enki and Enlil is completely ignored, and the Anunnaki are considered to be a separate race, a faction of the Ancient Ones. They live in the Absu, or Abyss, the great underworld ocean, which is also called “Cutha” or “Kutu.”

This place is also described as “the Sea beneath the Seas”, and clearly indicates an ocean inside the Earth which coincides with descriptions of the hollow Earth being largely filled with water.

The Elder Gods of The Necronomicon seem most definitely to be associated with the planets. In the chapter entitled “Of the Zonei and Their Attributes” (“Zonei” referring to the “zones” or orbits in which the planets travel), we learn that beneath Enki, Enlil and Anu are seven planetary deities.

The ancient god-kings of Atlantis associated themselves with the stars and the planets, taking on the attributes that these planets were supposed to represent.

The Ancient Ones, for their part, seem to be associated both with the Abyss, or underground sea, and with the constellations as well.

There seem to be three star systems in particular that the Ancient Ones are associated with, which have given birth to what The Necronomicon describes as:

“The Cult of the Dog, the Cult of the Dragon, and the Cult of the Goat”

(All cults that would be perceived as pagan or “Satanic” today) corresponding to the stars Draconis (the Dragon), Sirius (the Dog-Star), and Capricorn, (the Goat). The Necronomicon’s narrator Abdul Alhazred explains that:

“There shall forever be a war between us and the race of Draconis, for the race of Draconis was ever-powerful in ancient times, when the first temples were built in Magan, and they drew down their power from the stars...”

Many would interpret this to means that the Ancient Ones, “the Race of Draconis”, are a lizard race of extraterrestrials from Draco, much like the concept promoted by conspiracy theorist David Icke.

The Ancient Ones are reviled for teaching man secret wisdom, arts and sciences that are “unnatural”, because they enable man to conquer nature, just as the Watchers did in The Book of Enoch. In that text, the forbidden knowledge consists of math, writing, astronomy, and the like. Here it seems to be associated mostly with the forbidden arts of ritual magic, which, if performed by the Elder Gods would be perfectly alright, but which “are unlawful to our people.”

And who exactly are “our people” in this schematism? In “The Testimony of the Mad Arab”, Abdul Alhazred writes of his first encounter with the worshippers of the Ancient Ones, who were performing a sacrificial ritual around a large, floating, gray rock, upon which was carved three symbols.

Of the first, the pentagram, he writes:

“The first is the Sign of Our Race from beyond the Stars, and is called “Arra” in the tongue of the Scribe who taught it to me, an emissary of the Elder Ones. In the tongue of the eldest city of Babylon, it was Ur.”

The pentagram was indeed called the “Ar”, or “Plough Sign” by the ancient Sumerians, and some have speculated that this is where the word “Aryan” comes from.

The gods of ancient Sumeria were depicted with blue eyes, and their language is clearly the root of our “Indo-European”, or Aryan system of languages. Is it so much to assume that the Sumerians were in fact themselves “Sum-Aryans”? This would seem to confirm it.

But the blood of the Aryans has a special quality to it in this view, for it possesses the co-mingled powers of both the Ancient Ones and the Elder Gods. As L.K. Barnes writes:

“Man was created from the blood of the slain commander of the Ancient Army, Kingu, thereby making man a descendant of the Blood of the Enemy, as well as the ‘breath’ of the Elder Gods; a close parallel to the ‘Sons of God and the daughters of men’ reference in the Old Testament.”

Indeed it is a close parallel, for these Sumerian legends of the war in Heaven are the source of this later Biblical tale. A trace of these ancient versions can be found in what L.K. Barnes refers to as the “centerpiece” of The Necronomicon, “The Magan Text.”

The Magan Text tells the story of the creation of our present Earth, and of the human species. It starts out much like Genesis, with the emergence of creation out of the formless void of chaos, which is referred to as “the Waters” in both texts.

The beginning of the poem describes a time “before the Elder Gods had been brought forth”, meaning before the planets had been formed. “Uncalled by name, their destinies unknown and undetermined”, it says - the word “destiny” referring to the gravitational orbits of the planet. “Then it was that the gods were formed within the Ancient Ones.” This means that the Ancient Ones represent forces that pre-existed the creation of matter itself - time, space, electromagnetic and nuclear forces - the primeval void that was the womb of creation.

Indeed, the Hebrew word for Abyss that is found in Genesis 1:2 is, Hooke tells us, tehom, which the majority of scholars take to be a survival of the name of the chaos-dragon Tiamat or Leviathan that is identified closely with Kutulu or Cthulhu within the pages. They are mentioned independently of each other, indicating that somehow Kutulu is the male counterpart of Tiamat, similar to Absu.

Since the Elder Gods were begotten of the womb of Tiamat, it makes sense that they would be made of the same material, the primordial energy, or “prima materia” that she represents. That is where they would ultimately get their planetary power from. That is, therefore, where the Earth would get its power too.

One is reminded of the myth of the Black Sun, the ball of “prima materia” that supposedly exists in the center of the hollow Earth, providing the “dragon current” that resides beneath the Earth, and corresponding to the myth of Leviathan in the Abyss. The myth of the Black Sun comes from the ancient belief that the Sun died in the West every night, turned black, and descended into the underworld.

The Magan Text, then, may refer not only to how the Earth was formed out of the rending of a larger planet, but how the so-called "Black Sun", in its guise as Tiamat, or Leviathan was purportedly deposited in its center.

The following passage describes how the planets became disturbed in their orbits within the womb of Tiamat (space, the Abyss), thereby “rebelling” against her.

What follows is essentially the same as the war in Heaven.

Tiamat creates children (monsters) out of her womb to attack the rebellious Elder Gods. These monsters are lead by a demon called Kingu. Enki, “The Lord of the Magick Waters”, summons his son Marduk to do battle with the “Ancient Horde.” Enki represents the planet Saturn, and therefore, Satan, while Marduk, attributed to the planet Jupiter.

Marduk is said to have been victorious against the Ancient Ones, and caused them to fall from Heaven. His father Enki, “Lord of All Magick”, told him “the Secret Name, the Secret Number, and the Secret Shape”, thereby enabling him to access the powers of magic.

One would assume that this represents cosmic forces causing planets to smash into one another. And from the dead body of Tiamat, the Earth was formed. After it was all done, Marduk was responsible for re-establishing the planetary orbits, and basically taking over.

He himself became the creator of the new Heaven and the new Earth, while the Ancient Ones were imprisoned in the underworld:

It is this “issuing from the Earth” aspect that we should examine now, since that is where the Ancient Ones are said to be currently located.

This may link up with the claim by some that the hollow Earth, in which these fallen gods lie sleeping, exists in another dimension, which is why it is not acknowledged by science.

That the "underworld" is literally inside of the Earth is quite obvious from the text. As Ishtar descends, she must go through seven chambers, which clearly involves traveling through a series of tunnels into the depths of the Earth.

Well, there are those who hold that the gods of Sumeria were actually real flesh-and-blood kings of human civilization during the golden age of Atlantis. But they were more than human. The kings of Atlantis were somewhere in between man and god.

This “multi-dimensional” aspect is one way to explain the physical countenance of their human/god hybrid children as they are described in various myths: they were said to have been monsters and giants. It is this multi-dimensional force that the gods taught man to utilize in the rites of magic and occultism, which the gods invented and passed onto their human offspring, drawn from the power of the stars and planets, including the telluric “dragon force” of Cthulhu that lives within the Earth, and slumbers at the base of the human spine.

L.K. Barnes confirms that Sumer was not just the birthplace of civilization, but also of religion and ritual magic. Here is where the rebellious ones taught their cult to the “first man”, as Lovecraft described in The Call of Cthulhu.

Author Nicholas de Vere describes such ancestral conjuring rituals as being the central rites of “royal magic.” Summoning ancestral ghosts is also the purpose of Voodoo and Santeria ritual.

This is, mythologically, the same battle which caused the kingdom of Atlantis to sink to its watery depths, the war in Heaven in which the sons of God or Watchers were imprisoned within the underworld, their mighty kingdom destroyed, all because they dared to pass their divine seed, and their divine knowledge onto lowly humanity.

Then the age of the gods will begin anew: the New Atlantis, the New Jerusalem, the New World Order.
The War in the Heavens - The Battle between Tiamat and Marduk

Nibiru
http://www.kthuluproductions.com/NibiruX/history.html
NIBIRU: the 12th Planet, The Planet of Crossing, home of the Anunnaki (the Nefilhim), the red star/comet.

From a Land beyond the stars, Nibiru appeared to the ancients. It was called the 12th Planet by the ancient Sumerians because it is a member of our solar system (ancients included the Moon and Sun as planets). However, unlike the other planets in our solar system, which are in a singular orbit around the sun, Nibiru is in a binary orbit between two suns: our sun and another cold, unlit sun far out in our galaxy, making its orbit eliptical. Nibiru returns to our solar system approximately every 3,600 years (1 Shar).

A half a million years ago, Tiamat (Earth) was not located in Space where it is today. It orbited farther out from the Sun, in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. Mars was orbiting at a distance much closer to the Sun than now and was quite habitable, with a temperate climate and liquid water. This fact has been verified numerous times by NASA and other scientific groups.

What those groups do not acknowledge is the fact that Mars had a different orbital pattern than today. Then, too, Tiamat's system was closer to the Star Sirius (or Sothis, as the ancient Egyptians called it). This solar system and the Sirian planetary system are part of a unit. The two systems are gravitationally connected to one another, a new fact that is now beginning to gain widespread consensus from the scientific community.

Our "Sirian Regional System" as a unit revolves around the Central Sun Alcyone in the Pleiades Cluster, which might be termed "the Pleiades Quadrant". This greater sector revolves around the Galactic Center, in the direction of the Stars of Sagittarius, once every 200,000,000 years or so.

What is so significant about our present-day epoch is that certain great cycles relating to orbital alignments within the Pleiades Quadrant and between this Quadrant and the Galactic Center are starting to repeat themselves. The Mayans of Mesoamerica also acknowledged this and put it into their ancient calendar. In fact their Great Cycle ends on December 21st 2012!

NIBIRU's 3,600 Earth year orbit is known for causing catastrophic events on our planet - the Deluge, the ancient flood of Egypt. The Sumerian Creation Myth and the Magan text of the Necronomicon tell of the war between Tiamat and Marduk/Nibiru. The two massive planets collided breaking Tiamat in half (the other half turned into what is now called the Asteriod Belt or The Abode of Heaven), and knocking the Earth into its new current orbit around the sun, leaving Tiamat with just one moon, Kingu.

It is said it was then that the Anunnaki came to Earth and took over the lands mining for gold to use it for energy. They built the pyramids of Iraq, Egypt, Mexico, and Central America to use as Control Centers for their space stations. They took Tiamat's native Neanderthal man and mixed them with their own DNA to make what are known as modern day humans to use as slaves and to breed like sheep.

The Anunnaki are still out there. And they will make their return soon. Beware the Wrath of the Ancient Ones! For they look out from the Watchtowers of the Gate of ABSU while lays the mighty TIAMAT, Dead but Dreaming.
Nibiru or Planet X
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/herco ... bus_34.htm
The SUMERIANS also mentioned a "twelfth" planet called "NIBIRU", one whose elliptical orbit brought it close to Earth for a brief period about every 3,600 years.

The Sumerians and later also the Babylonians mention about a long time ago in Ancient times in which Nibiru (Marduk), until that time a stranger in our solar system, had a fight in heaven with Tiamat and Kingu. At that time, millions of years ago, the satellites of Nibiru (Marduk) collided with Tiamat (a planet at least two times the mass of Earth) and broke it in 2 parts.

In accordance to the theory of Zecharia Sitchin and others, the 2 parts of Tiamat were forced to another orbit around the Sun, One part was broken in small parts and are now called The Asteroid Belt (between Mars and Jupiter) and Asteroids Meteorites and Comets. The other part was forced into his new orbit between Venus and Mars and became the Earth. Kingu became the Moon of the "new planet" Earth. Nibiru was forced into an elliptical orbit around the Sun and its new orbit was from that time on a cycle of 3,600 years around the Sun.

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Wed May 04, 2011 5:36 am

NEPHILIM
http://keelynet.com/ufo/nephilim.txt
WHO ARE THE UFONAUTS?

The Watchers and the Giants...

The Book of Enoch...

"Go speak to the Watchers of Heaven, who have sent you to intercede for them. Tell them, You should intercede for men, and not men for you. Why did you leave lofty holy Heaven to sleep with women, to defile yourselves with the daughters of men and take them as your wives, and like the children of the earth to beget sons, in your case giants?

Though you were holy and spiritual, living the eternal life, you defiled yourself with the blood of women, you begot children with the blood of flesh, and like the others you have lusted after flesh and blood as do those who die and perish.

Because they perish I gave them wives so they might impregnate them, have children, and nothing be lacking on the earth. But you were spiritual and immortal for all generations of the world. So I gave you no wives, for Heaven is your proper dwelling place. And now the giants, offspring of spirit and flesh, will be called spirits on the earth, and earth shall be their dwelling. Their bodies emitted evil spirits because they were born from human women and the holy Watchers.

The giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack over the earth. Although they hunger and thirst they do not eat. They offend.

These spirits will rise up against men and women because they proceed from them. "The giants will slaughter, unpunished, until the day of the great judgment. Then the age, the Watchers, and the godless will be wholly consummated.

As for the Watcher who sent you to intercede for them, tell them: 'You were in Heaven but the mysteries were not revealed to you. You knew worthless ones, and in the hardness of your hearts you revealed these to women, and through these secrets women and men work much evil earth.' Say to them, 'You have no peace.'"

ENOCH'S JOURNEYS THROUGH SHEOL AND HEAVEN --

"And the archangel Uriel said to me, 'Here shall stand the angels who have been attached to women. Their spirits, assuming many different forms, are defiling mankind and will lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods.

Here they shall stand till the day of the winds of Heaven which turn and bring the circumference of the sun and all the stars to their setting..."

ENOCH'S ASCENT TO THE FIFTH HEAVEN --

"And the men carried me up on to the fifth heaven, and I saw there many troops, Grigori, and their appearance was human and their size greater than that of great giants and their faces withered, and the silence of their mouths perpetual, and there was no service on the fifth heaven, and I said to the men who were with me, 'Why are their faces melancholy and withered, their mouths silent, and why is there no service on this heaven?'

And they said to me, 'These are the Grigori, who with their prince Satanail, rejected the Lord of light, and after them are those who are held in great darkness on the second heaven and three of them went down to earth from the Lord's throne to the place Ermon, and broke through their vows on the shoulder of the hill Ermon and saw how good are the daughters of men.

They took them as their wives, and befouled the earth with their deeds, and in all times of their age were lawless and promiscuous. Giants (Nephilim) were born and marvelous big men and great enmity.

And therefore God judged them with great punishment, and they weep for their brethren and they will be punished on the Lord's great day.'" NOTE: Grigori were giant angels, also called Watchers, who revolted in Heaven and sinned with the daughters of men. In Genesis 6:2, "the sons of God (fallen angels), looking at the daughters of men, saw that they were pleasing and married as many as they chose."

The intercourse of God's angels with humans enraged God. In Genesis 6:3, we read God's words: "My spirit must not be disgraced in man, for he is but flesh." As punishment "his life shall last for no more than a hundred and twenty years." For all this wickedness and corruption, in the next lines, God introduces Noah and the Flood. Ermon is considered to be Mount Hermon in upper Galilee today.

WHO ARE THE NEPHILIM (FALLEN ANGEL-HUMAN HYBRIDS)?

Before the Indian Hindu (Mohenjo Daro) "Aryans," legend has it that the first great Aryans were the Neflheim (Nephilim in the book of Genesis in the Bible, i.e., the Giants of Old, i.e., fallen angel-human hybrids) who existed in the "north" in the centre of their land of which was a well from which sprang twelve rivers.

The god of this northland was Odin who was considered the greatest of sorcerers, and imparted his knowledge of his art to his favorites.

Frigga was his queen, and the mother of Baldur, the Scandinavian Apollo. Thus, in legend we see the Nephilim of the north spreading out of the north, across Europe, and eventually coming to India.

Indian and Tibetan esoteric Hinduism/Buddhism plays a central role in the Theosophy of Helena P. Blavatsky.

HELENA PETROVNA BLAVATSKY

She was born Helena Hahn, the daughter of a Russian colonel, in1831, and who was the cousin of Sergei Witte, latter prime minister and friend of Rasputin. Married at sixteen to a man twenty-four years her senior, she deserted him after a while -- the marriage still unconsummated -- and began her wanderings around the world.

Count Witte said she became a bareback rider in a circus, taught the piano in Paris and London, became an assistant to the medium Daniel Dunglas Home for a while, managed an artificial flower factory in Tiflis, and periodically turned up at her home in Ekaterinoslav looking plumper and stranger than ever.

She also traveled by her own account in Mexico, Texas, India, Canada and Tibet. She acquired some reputation as a medium in Russia and, in 1873, went to America and found the country in the grip of a spiritualist craze.

Two brothers name Eddy were the prominent materialisation mediums, and it was at their farm near Chittenden, Vermont, that Madame Blavatsky met a bearded lawyer who possessed the honorary rank of Colonel -- Henry Steel Olcott.

Throughout her life, acquaintances spoke of strange knocks and rappings that occurred in her presence. Occasionally notes dropped out of the air detailing her needs, and she explained that they (the notes) were from certain secret Mahatmas she had met in Tibet, spiritual adepts who would one day regenerate the world.

There was also a Brotherhood of Luxor -- in these early days, HPB tended to emphasize Egypt rather than Tibet -- whose members sent messages to the readers of "The Banner of Light," the spiritualistic newspaper that publicised her doings in exchange for a certain amount of financial support.

It was on September 7, 1875, that Madame Blavatsky embarked on the career that was to make her world-famous. A certain Mr. Felt had lectured to a small study group about the hermetic secrets embodied in the measurements of the pyramids.

He explained that those secret 'laws of proportion' could also invoke spirits, although, he added, the spirits he had seen showed no sign of intelligence. It was from this study and the suggestions from Mr. Felt that the Theosophic Society was born.

In September, 1877, after endlessly writing day after day, the book "Isis Unveiled" was published by HPB. This book contained blendings from the Kabbalah, Cornelius Agrippa, Pythagoras, Buddhist, Hindu and Taoist scripture.

Primary among the tenets of Theosophy of HPB is her doctrine of "root races." According to HPB the first root race lived near the North Pole [Note: compare this location to the one above where North is mentioned] and they were invisible, being made of fire-mist;

The second, living in northern Asia, were just visible – they invented sexual intercourse;

The third root race were the ape-like giants of Lemuria, who communicated telepathically and could not reason in our sense;

The fourth were the Atlanteans, who were destroyed through black magic;

We are the fifth (and according to occultist Lewis Spence, we are also heading the way of Atlantis);

The sixth root race will evolve from the present human race and will live on Lemuria (in the Pacific) again;

After the seventh root race, life will leave our earth and start up on Mercury.

The manuscript of "The Secret Doctrine," another foundational text of the theosophists, was a huge pile of jumbled papers. Various friends of HPB read it and said it was incomprehensible. She told them to get to work on it; so the book was typed, then rearranged.

The book came out in 888. Annie Bessant, who had been a Fabian Socialist and George Bernard Shaw's mistress, reviewed it, and wanted to meet the author. In 1889, Bessant met Blavatsky and immediately became a disciple of Theosophy much to the dismay of the Fabian Socialists.

Upon HPB's death on May 8, 1891, Annie Bessant became the leader of the Theosophic Society. Still, after her move to Theosophy, Bessant's contacts with the Fabian Society continued even though she had moved to India, converted to Hinduism, and become the world leader of the Theosophical movement.

In July, 1907, Bessant gave a lecture to a Fabian audience on "The Future of Socialism." Before her death in 1933, Annie Bessant continued the writings of the Theosophic Society including "The Ancient Wisdom."

Another called "Esoteric Buddhism" is reported to have been written by Sinnet. These later writings are full of references to the Upanishads and Buddhist scriptures. It is of interest that an important symbol of these Eastern religions is the hackencruze; i.e., the swastika.
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Vanguard Notes...

The Swastika is a powerful good luck symbol derived from the Eastern Indians. The symbol adopted by the Germans rotates to the left with a CCW (counter-clockwise) spin. The original symbol rotates to the right with a CW (clockwise) spin.

We have information showing that energy or geometries possessing a CCW spin pull energy TOWARD the viewer, while a CW spin pulls energy AWAY from the viewer.

This is referred to as Circular Polarization in the path of a flow of energy such as transmission of radio or TV frequencies.

When you see the Swastika symbol, before you make a judgement as to its meaning, check the spin direction.

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THE LINK TO NAZISM??

In 1923, Hitler was campaigning for power in the period of the Weimar Republic of Germany. German had just lost World War I and the settlements as Versai were most repressive as far as Germans were concerned. In these campaigns, many of which were conducted by quick airplane hops to different Germany cities, Hitler had accompanying him one Detrick Eckart.

Detrick Eckart was an official in the Thulegessellschaft, i.e., the Theosophic Society of Germany. It was later that Hitler would dedicate his book MEIN KAMPF to Detrick Eckart and, it is known, that Eckart was a trusted advisor of Hitler in these early days.

Even before, in 1919, the peculiar figure of Dietrick Eckart was involved in the start of the nucleus of the Nazi Party when it was called "Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" which claimed to carry on the ideas of "the Free Workers' Committee for a Good Peace."

Eckart was a heavy-jowled, fat little man of just over fifty-one and he often frequented the Munich beer-halls to inveigle against the Jews and "the traitors of Berlin." He came into contact with several other discontented "idealists" at the time including Alfred Rosenberg, who was obsessed with the importance of racial purity.

It was Hitler himself who was later to join up with the "German Citizens' Union." It was Detrick Eckart who persuaded the Union to make Hitler their propagandist on October 16th, 1919. Hitler, due to his oratory skills, gave the party a program and brought the party out into the open.

By February 24th, 1920, the German Workers' Party had adopted its "Twenty-five Points" and, significantly, established the "Black Guards," i.e., a private army.

By August 7th, 1920, the fuller title of "Nationalsozalistische Deutsche Arbeiterparei" was adopted. Shortly later the anti-Semitic sheet, the "Volkischer Beobachter," the Party's newspaper was distributed by one Hermann Esser.

Detrick Eckart was of the opinion that he could inspire a lesser mind but a greater leader to the regeneration of Germany. He was, however, assisted by one Alfred Rosenberg.

Race is at the bottom of the National Socialist (Nazi) philosophy.

"A man in born Nordic or Jew or of some other race, and he can no more change his racial characteristics than he can alter his skin from black to white."

Accordingly, such thinking led to the following:

"No society can exist except on the basis of racial purity...No Jew or coloured man can ever be assimilated into a Nordic society; social adaptability follows the facts of racial biology, and inescapable natural facts rule out any possibility of transformation."

These and other statements are the work of Alfred Rosenberg; the racial purist of the fledgling Nazi party. Biologically, Hitlerism divided mankind into one superior race -- the Aryans -- and the other degraded slave-races.

Among the inferior types two stood out in Nazi thinking -- the Jewish-Slavs and the Jewish-Negro-French. It is little known in the present day that the so-called "Aryans" were not just the blond haired-blue eyed Nordics -- to the contrary, the true Aryans are an ancient "race" from India. Now we begin to see the connection of Theosophy, the Nazis, and ancient esoteric scriptures.

ANCIENT HISTORY

The worship of the oak tree or of the oak god appears to have been shared by all the branches of the Aryan stock in Europe (who had migrated from India). Both Greeks and Italians associated the tree with their highest god, Zeus or Jupiter, the divinity of the sky, the rain, and the thunder.

In the religion of the ancient Germans the veneration for sacred groves seems to have held the foremost place, and according to Grimm the chief of their holy trees was the oak.

It appears to have been especially dedicated to the god of thunder, Donar or Thunar, the equivalent of the Norse Thor. Interestingly, for a sacred oak near Geismar, in Hesse, which Boniface cut down in the eighth century, went among the Aryans by the name of Jupiter's oak, which in old German would be "Donares eih."

Translated in present German is "Donarstag" -- in English "Thursday" for "Thor's day." The perpetual holy fires of the Aryans in Europe appear to have been commonly kindled with oak-wood, and in Rome itself the fuel of the Vestal fire consisted of oaken sticks or logs.

The Aryan worship of the oak tree was visible among the British Celts of the ancient Gaulic empire. Among the British Celts the chief fire-festivals of the year were those of Beltane (May Day) and Halloween (the last day of October).

Clearly the Druids of old, associated with Stonehenge, are one of the branches of the Aryan race. In tracing back the origin of the Aryans to India we see them direct descendents of the Hindu worldview.

Interestingly, the jack-o-lantern of today -- the pumpkin head -- is a symbolic form of the Hindu magician "Punchkin" who had his head twisted off in a Hindu legend. An interesting study is the examination of the worshipers of trees in the Bible and the attitude of God toward those groups.

TODAY AND TOMORROW

The Theosophic Society came to the United States. Beginning with Alice Bailey, the Theosophic ideals began their substantial American printing under the name of Lucifer Press in New York.

The Lucifer Press, an offshoot of Lucifer Trust, was located in United Nations Plaza in New York. Renamed Lucis Press/Lucis Trust, the organization continues to this day in active policy lobbying in the United Nations itself.

The present New Age movement, with its distinct Druid / Hindu / Buddhism / Magick / Satanic worldview, is nothing but a re-emergence of the spiritualism of the ancient past, traceable back to the Nephilim in our own day.

This current great re-emergence of the same philosophy which has led to Nazism in this century and is associated with the Nephilim / Aryans of ancient legend, portends troubles in our own time.

Reappearance again in our present age signals the probable not-distant arrival of the end of the age.

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Fri May 06, 2011 7:02 am

Those Who From Heaven to Earth Came” - “The Shining Ones”
http://firstlegend.info/anunnaki.html
For those who are unfamiliar as to who are the Anunnaki the following is a brief definition. The Anunnaki are the pantheon of Sumerian gods. Depending where you get your information and what epics are being referenced the total number varies, but the ones most important are the seven great gods as pictured above. It is mainly these seven that comprise most of the Sumerian epics.

Knowing that Anu and his Anunnaki pantheon of gods depicted Anakites living in Susa, I started to uncover his "glorious" father in the following way, but only because I had just read an article the night before, on Elamite history, that used a people-group term fitting him to a tee. Afterward, as I continued questioning who Anu's other family members might depict, I found that I had enough keys to lift the veil on the entire family.

Anu's father was Anshar, a clear depiction of the Iranian region of Ansan/Anzan, as for example we note the anciently-recorded phrase, "king of Anshan and Susa." Ansan, in the Zagros mountains south-east of Susa, was the capital of Elam before Susa took that role. The tie to Ansan explains how Elam was at one time non-Semitic. It's odd to make that claim because Elam was a son of Shem, yet Aryans of the Zagros had mixed with Elamites to produce their Aryan blood.

You do see that "Anshar/Anshan" can modify to "Anchar/Anchan," evoking "Anaki." It may not be rated by some as much more than a guess, but Anakites must have been the Aryan side of Elamites since Aryans are typically reported in history as being tallish, while Semites are not so reported. The following speaks to the infusion of Susa blood into Elam, and in the process distinguishes between early Elam and Susa; in my mind, this picture is the moving of Delymites on the Caspian shores down to Susa near the Persian Gulf.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Elamites, Susanians, and Sumerians were all a Semite-Aryan mix, but rather it shows flow from one location to the other. I'll confidently assert that it was in Uruk and Eridu that these same Aryans became the Rukhs and Rus respectively that were part of the Rus-Semite dragon cult. It would appear that, at some point, the Anakite-Semite merger became so deep and strong as to be a permanent people group distinguished from Aryans on the one hand, and Semites on the other.

It would appear that the Dumuzi/Demeter migration northward was the Assyrian one (when Assyrians broke with Babylonians, taking their god, Assur, with them to found Assyria), for "The best known of [the Anunnaki] were Asaru, Asarualim, Asarualimnunna, Asaruludu, En-Ki (Ea for the Akkadians), Namru, Namtillaku and Tutu." Surely the Tutu were of the Euphrates city of Tuttul, but did they then become the Titans/Tats of Cadusia in that northern migration to Cadusia? Logical. If it's this Tuttul that links to Tahtali at the mount Olympos of Solymi realms, then it's that important as a people group, which can be seen in it's being anciently given a Titan role. Don't Titans and mount Olympus go together, after all? In that case, I expect it to be difficult to distinguish between Tats and the Solymi/Delymites.

I would peg those various "Asura" terms as Osiris, the Anunnaki god, Anshar, because he was also called "Ashur/Asshur", would translate to Osiris if Osiris' son, Horus, can be shown to translate to Anshar's son, Anu. This is a perfect parallel in my books because Anu was of Eridu while I had independently traced Horus to Eridu (because I trace the Hros to Eridu). Plus, with Osiris equated with Anshar = the city of Ansan, his wife, Isis, looks solidly like Ansan's ally, Susa. The picture here is one in which Ansan Anakites settled Asshur (though not necessarily naming the city).
Who is Abram, Avram, Abraham, Ibriham. What is so "special" about his bloodline. Was he a "son of Anak (Anunnaki), a Nephalim, an Aryan, a Hebrew, a Jew. Is a Hebrew necessarily a Jew? Perhaps Abraham is the "father" of the "serpent (hybrid) bloodline" What's in a name anyway? Perhaps it's a "bloodline" with an overweening need to be "special" as in "chosen." After all, one can be "chosen" to do good as well as evil. (Personally I'm fed up with "chosen people." Perhaps we humans can ship them all off to a "special planet" where they can all compete amongst themselves as to who will be the "most special" -- whatever that means.)

Abraham
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=34726
Abraham came from the city of Ur. Abraham is the father of Jews, Christians and Muslims with regards to religion.

Thus Iraq/Babylon is the start of the Judeo-Christianity-Islamic religion, the three Abrahamic religions, the people of the book, e.g. Torah/Bible/Quran.

Then we have the Vedic connections to Sumeria/Abraham, e.g. Braham = Abraham.

Braham is the supreme creator, the infinite awareness. Braham has three functions; these are represented by a trinity, trimurti. This trinity is a representation of functions/aspects of the supreme. This trinity is Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.

Also coincidentally the creation of mankind in the Vedic terms and Abrahamic terms is the same.
TRACKING LADON GOG AND THE HEBREW ROSE - new Hebrew-Aryan theory
http://www.tribwatch.com/ladon.htm
This book assumes that mainline Greek, Roman, Babylonian, Egyptian, Celtic, Norse and Arthurian mythology is the real history, but written in code, of a pagan/occult Semite peoples responsible for the gross exploitation of mankind and ultimately for Armageddon. In modern times, some of their numbers developed into secret societies: Rosicrucians, Templars, Zionists, and Illuminati.
ASSHUR! GOG BEE-LESS YOU
http://www.tribwatch.com/asshur.htm
Within a couple of days, I latched onto the Abrahamic Asshurites (Genesis 25), whom I had never before acknowledged although I had read Genesis many times, and I began to sense in my spirit that these peoples were part of that Germanic bloodline that was sacred to the secret societies under the Rosicrucian banner. On the other hand, I thought the idea to be a little fantastic, and began to conclude that my imagination was simply running away on me.

By the third day of research, I had found some convincing evidence, and on the fourth day I found what seemed to me the "Holy Grail" that no one is supposed to discover. It was merely this, that Abraham's brother, Nahor, had a son named Buz (Genesis 25:21). What had me elated was that, in my previous years of research, I had traced the dragon bloodline to a Bias/Byzas peoples of Greek myth, a peoples that I thought furnished the Merovingian (French) kings, the Stewarts that sat on the British throne, and who knows who else of secret-society importance.

For the Bias/Byzas-line peoples I had identified, a year or two earlier, used bees and honey to symbolize themselves (for example, the primordial Merovingian king, father of Clovis, had gold bees buried with him). I have a good reason to believe that Buz, son of Nahor, became the bee-people Greeks (i.e. the goddess Melia, and Merope/Merops), the Merovingian Franks (note how "Merop" evokes the king, "Merovi"), and that this is why a Hebrew/Millennial element is found woven into the fabric of Rosicrucianism.

Although we had been engaged daily on my topic of the Buzi and the Bute family of royal-Stewart importance, it wasn't until a week later that I realized that the surname started with and had as its root, "Bot." I was told that this name was Hungarian, and I know that Hungarians descend from Magyars and Kabars, the latter definitely having Hebrew elements and related to the Hebrew-ruled Khazars (north-east Caucasia). The Khazars are thought by many to be somehow connected to Rosicrucians/Templars.

Long before the Magyars came to Hungary, proto-Hungary was inhabited by Bessi Thracians that I suspected were rooted in Buzi Medes. I had already figured that the Buda portion of Buda-Pest (twin-city capital of Hungary) was founded either by the Budii or Buzi Medes. I've yet to find whether these two similar names were the same stalk of peoples, but it seems feasible.

Previously, correspondence with another Christian, of the Stewart bloodline had inadvertently led me to the Bute surname of Stewart importance. Upon my developing a Stewart-Bute connection to the Greek god, Butes, I emphasized it as the name to trace across Europe, and Buda of Hungary was in my mind good clue in tracing this bloodline.

Ezekiel 38:13 tells that Sheba and Dedan will wonder why Gog has come to Israel, and ask whether or not it's to take a spoil of war there. The mention of these brother-peoples seems pregnant with the purpose of revealing the route of Gog at that time. The problem is, there are two men in the Bible each of whom named two of his sons, Sheba and Dedan, and this has so created a controversy among historians.

While one pair of Sheba-and-Dedan brothers are widely thought to have formed people groups in Saudi Arabia, the other pair of brothers formed uncertain peoples to the north of Israel. The latter pair were sons of Abraham's son, Jokshan (Genesis 25:3), and I have some reasons to believe that these, too, are tied to the blood roots of secret societies.

Genesis 25:3 tells that the Dedanites of Abrahamic blood formed the Asshurites, revealing that a certain descendant of the Dedanites was named "Asshur.". While these Asshurites must be distinguished from those who had earlier named the city of Asshur/Ashur (after which the Assyrians are said to be named), it comes to me with revelatory importance that a Dedanite descendant should furnish his son with a name that honored the capital city of Assyria. It tends to verify what some already believe, that Assyria was a Semite kingdom. It would therefore be likely that Assyria, prior to the formation of Israelites, was filled with Hebrews.

As the Muslims consider themselves holy for being descended from Abraham, so also the Asshurites may have viewed themselves, so as to start a cult around the fact. With subsequent generations and predictable rejection from the YHWH-honoring Israelites, the cult may have devolved into the Rosicrucian/Kabala secret society, and perhaps certain descendants of Nahor joined that cult. Both the Asshurites and Buzites were in truth Hebrews, for Abraham's father was a descendant of Eber (Genesis 11:16-26).

Sheba and Asshur are mentioned alongside Haran, Canneh, Eden, Chilmad, and Tarshish (still in Ezekiel 27), and this reveals the general location of the Abrahamic brothers. The location of Haran is in modern southeast Turkey a few tens of miles from the Euphrates River. Abraham's family lived in Haran for a time before migrating to Israel. Abraham's brother, Haran, was apparently named after that city, even though Haran lived and died in Ur. This is the first clue that Hebrews in Ur were connected to Hebrews in Haran, what may be extremely important in identifying the historical peoples that they were, perhaps even tied to the dragon bloodline.

The question then becomes, did God make the Abrahamic Asshurites into a great nation (i.e. since he promised Abraham to make his seed into many great nations)? When the Assyrians, over a thousand years after Abraham, were sent by God to take the 10 tribes of Israel away into exile, were the invaders in large part descended from the Abrahamic Asshurites? How deep into Assyria had the latter penetrated, if at all?

While many proponents of British-Israelism have taught that Germans descend from Assyrians, and that many of the those Assyrian-come-Germans were Hebrews of the lost ten tribes, who became certain European nations/kingdoms, including Britain, I am beginning to see quite differently, that many European nations, especially the Germanics (and including the British), stem from Abrahamic Sheba and Dedan, and Nahorites, not (in particular, anyway) the Israelites that went to exile in Assyria. It’s extremely important for British-Israelists to recognize that the non-Israelite Hebrews put forth the seeds of European peoples long before the Assyrian exile of Israelites. Moreover, the Hebrew-based Europeans were also of Aryan blood, and it is one of my tasks in this book to discover which Aryans they had mixed with in Mesopotamia.

Is it possible that Scandinavians and other Germanic tribes -- because they claimed to be of the "Aesir" gods/bloodline -- descend from the Abrahamic Asshurites? Did a secret cult of Asshurites become so large and powerful as to contribute to much of Europe?

Was the mythical Asgard, depicted with a tree of life as per the Garden of Eden -- which Garden is moreover implied in the Scandinavian phrase, "Golden Apples of Idun" -- a nation of the Abrahamic Asshurites? How else could the Aesir Scandinavians have come to use the Garden of Eden as the bedrock of their pagan religion? Pagans are defined as those who abandon Biblical concepts, who instead worship their ancestors.

It's even more interesting that the pre-tribulation rapture was invented by a cult (Catholic Apostolic Church) that held with wild abandon to European-Israelism. It's fine to theorize that many Europeans stem from Hebrew stock, but to attempt to make Europe a twelve-tribe Theocracy in the name of Biblical Israel, as the Catholic Apostolic Church attempted, is Christian lunacy. To their dying days, the twelve apostles of that cult (one for the United States as well) awaited the return of Jesus to rule Israelite Europe as per the Biblical Millennium. Imagine that. I am certain that it was an Illuminati cult of the highest order, unbeknown to its naive membership, of course.

Most often, European-Israelism (rejected by mainline Christianity) includes the notion that the Israelite tribe of Dan moved from Greece into the Danube river and then to Denmark, etc., all the while spreading Dan-blood throughout Europe (e.g. to become the Germanic tribes). However, when I noticed the similarity between "Dan" and "Dedan" I immediately pondered whether secret societies, in teaching their Freemason pawns their secrets, have substituted Dan for Dedan in order to have them unwittingly teach a non-truth, in order to deflect the reality from the masses? My feelers tell me that it’s of prime importance to the secret societies to convince us that they are from Israelites and Levites, and should historians discover that in fact the European “Jews” are from the non-Israelite, non-Levite blood of Chaldea, the hopes of the secret societies will be dashed for producing their counterfeit Millennium in the name of Israel and/or Jesus.

One can see how a people would like to promote themselves as the Chosen People just for being descended from Abraham. But I say none of all this to say that the descendants of Keturah (Abraham's wife) were Israelites just because they were Abraham's descendants, for Israelites stem from his son, Isaac, not from Keturah's children. However, both Abraham and Nahor were Hebrews since both were descended from Eber, thus making Hebrews out of both the Asshurites and Buzites.

In that the Buzites from Nahor are distinct from the Asshurites from Abraham, it implies the formation of two cults, one the Buzi Germanics (Merovingians included), and the other the Aesir Germanics (Swedes included). Obviously, making such a wild claim as this is a hollow bucket without some evidence. The first order of business is to discount the common idea that Sheba and Dedan are found only in Arabia, for Arabia is not part of the dragon bloodline leading from Armenia to the Germanics.

I have already mentioned that Haran, that this city was mentioned alongside Sheba and Asshur (Ezekiel 27), to show that the pair were to the north of Israel, not in Arabia. Haran was between Syria and Assyria, far from Arabia. Along with Haran, Chilmad is also mentioned, and this term may be the same as Kulmadara, a city in Syrian Unqi (i.e. in northwest Syria). Canneh is also mentioned, which may be a city named after the Canaanites (Cana of Galilee?). Tarshish is not only mentioned in this Ezekiel list, but it's also side by side with Sheba and Dedan in Ezekiel 38, reinforcing in my mind that this latter mention (important to end-time prophecy concerning Gog) refers to the Abrahamic pair, for Tarshish is known to refer to Tarsus of ancient Cilicia, now in southern Turkey on the Mediterranean.

As the Assyrian empire had disappeared by the second Temple period, and seeing that the Abrahamic Asshurites are listed in Ezekiel 27 with peoples in and around Syria, one may entertain the possibility that Syria had been commonly called "Asshur" due to the Abrahamic Asshurites. On the other hand, Syrian Asshur may have been from the stalk of Asshur, son of Shem. In fact, Syria was at first known as Aram, and this title is overwhelmingly thought to derive from Aram, son of Shem (Genesis 10:22). It's true that Nahor's grandson was named, "Aram," but by the time of his birth, there were already a people called "Arameans."

The importance of Nahor in God's plan is underscored where He sent Isaac to obtain his wife from Nahor's bosom, far away in Haran. She was Rebekah, daughter of Bethuel, son of Nahor (Genesis 22:23). Bethuel is said to be an Aramean, but as the Aram of Nahor blood was not likely an adult as yet; Bethuel must have been from the loins of Aram, son of Shem.

The point here is to reinforce the location in which Nahor lived, not in Arabia, nor even in the face of Arabia, but in Syria. In fact, and few would contest it, the Genesis account pegs him as living in Haran, or at least nearby. And that's the general vicinity in which I would expect the Buzites, and other family groups from Nahor, to have started out. I had already made a tentative tie between the Greek bee peoples (“Buzas/Byzas”) and the Buzi tribe of Medes, but now I want to know if the Buzi Medes were not named after Buzites from Nahor.
THE GARDEN OF GUTI
http://www.tribwatch.com/guti.htm
The dragon bloodline is essentially a counterfeit Eden cult determined from the start to honor Satanic rulers for reasons/logic unknown to me.

I had been wondering whether or not to share that the Letushites, also sons of Abrahamic Dedan, may have became the Lydians, since in ancient times the country was "Lydus," a perfect match with the root of "Letushite." We may be on the rim of the Holy Grail while discussing Lydia, for many have thought that nation to be the Biblical Gog; my position is that they were a Gogi branch but not necessarily the Gog of Ezekiel 38. In Greek myth, the Lydians were, in my opinion, Apollo's mother, Leto. The first Roman Caesars descended from Lydia; they worshipped both Lydia and Apollo. But how can I even consider that Biblical Gog and/or Satanic Rome come from the loins of Abraham? Only by recognizing that the blood of Abraham plays a small part; the most of it must have been Aryan.

The father of the god, Lydus, was Attis, whom I think was Utu of Babylon/Sumer. "Ziusudra," representing a people who worshiped Utu, were inhabitants of Eridu, and came to rule the city after the people who honored Enki had ruled there. Zeus was possibly a peoples (of Thrace and Greece) stemming from "Ziasudra." One website says that the Sanskrit, "udra," means "water", wherefore "Ziasudra" may be an Aryan term, which of course would then mean, "god of the waters." It just so happens that Enki was god of the waters.

As it's known that Haran's son, Laban, worshiped carved gods, what gods did he worship if not those of Eridu/Erech? I will repeat here that Haran (Abraham's brother) was in Ur and died there, and that his being given that name shows ties between his family in Ur and the city of Haran. That is, it is possible, if not a concrete-hard fact, that Abraham's family in Ur already had relatives in Haran (before they set out for Canaan), this explaining why they stopped at Haran and lived there a while. Here is what convinces me:

"Nanna is a god in Mesopotamian mythology, god of the moon...His sacred city was Ur...He was named Sin in Babylonia and Assyrian and was also worshipped by them in Harran...His wife was Ningal ('Great Lady') who bore him Utu 'Sun' and Inana...The two chief seats of Sin's worship were Ur in the south, and Harran to the north."

There you have it. Ur and Haran shared many relatives, more than any other two cities among which lived the worshipers of Sin. And as the moon god was otherwise known as "Min," perhaps "Sin" evolved into it. But the moon god was known in many Min-variations (e.g. Mani/Mene), and one can then surmise that the city and people of Mannae (Biblical "Minni"?) was named after him. It just so happens that the "father" of Attis was "Manes," this revealing not only that Lydians descended from Armenia, but the possibility that the Armenians were descended from Sin i.e. peoples of Ur. As Josephus was convinced that Armenia was founded by Arameans, it may have been the Arameans from Ur who developed the dragon cult.

In the above quote we see that the so-called "Great Mother" goddess, Inana, descends from Sin. It is said that her "Ishtar" title was Semitic, from the Akkadians. Inana's brother, Utu, was "Shammash" to the Akkadians, and so note that the Semitic/Bible word for "sun" is "shemesh" (Strong's #8122). It's interesting that "Shem" seems to be the root of "shemesh." Indeed, we would expect the Semites to have deified Shem with some term or another. Keep in mind that Aram was the son of Shem.

"Ishtar" is said by some to be a variation of "Asshur," and suddenly I see that, if true, it wouldn't be Assyria in view, but the Abrahamic Asshurites...the brothers of the Letushites. If the latter were the Lydians, then the Lydians become the seed of Abraham...which would then make them Hebrews rather than Arameans (Arameans were not Hebrews).

Aram also gave birth to "Mash" (some Bible versions wrongly insert "Meshech"), and as the dragon aspect of the Utu/Shamash sun god was called "mushu/mushus," one can now wonder if Mash was not responsible. Do we see a ShemMash? Moreover, did "Mash" form part of "Dumuzi/Tammuz"?

I trust that online writers have a good reason for not mentioning whether or not "Hurrian" is rooted in "Haran," or whether the two are rooted in yet a third term, but as yet I haven't found that reason. Multiple writers assert only that Haran was a Hurrian city, and perhaps the difficulty lies in the non-Aryan nature of Haran (Hurrians are classified as Aryans). I found this quote online: "Originally speakers of Hurrian, [Arameans] early on adopted a form of Akkadian that gave birth to the Aramaic language." And so the Arameans must have gotten very close to some of those gorgeous blue-eyed blondes with beautiful long white toes, and in mating with them they must have produced an Aryan-Semitic mix.

Enki of Eridu is depicted as the Biblical God, and is allied to Ziasudra, the latter of whom is depicted as Noah. This supports the idea that "Ziasudra" means "god of the waters," in which case one may assume with measurable plausibility that he was a god named by Aryans, since "udra" is Sanskrit while Sanskrit was long ago a sister language to Aryan. Moreover, as the Lithuanian language today is said to be one of the closest to the ancient Aryan, note that "udra" in Lithuanian is an otter (i.e. an aquatic creature).

Udra was also an Aryan-family language called "Prakrit," and it just so happens that the language of "Apabhramsa" (can we see an "Abraham" in that?) grew out of Prakrit (in Christian centuries) in northern India. According to one website, "Apabhramsa is mentioned as the 'dialect of the Abhiras' and was called 'Abhiri'"

What's that? There was a Sanskrit language in India that smacks of “Hebrew” while apparently being credited to Abraham, which in earlier centuries was called the "Udra" language? Is this evidence that Ziasudra was in part a Hebrew entity...and/or of the Abrahamic bloodline? Is this why Zeus carries features akin to Noah's (i.e. the true) God?

It has been stipulated that Enki's Babylonian version, "Ea," is the origin of the Biblical "Yah," because, aside from other reasons, the two terms sound virtually the same. These things are used by non-believing historians to connect the Biblical God to Babylonian/Sumerian myths/tales, by which they mean to assert that the Biblical God was an invention of the Israelites but based on Sumerian concepts.

The non-believers need to re-think. The Sumerian myths were not pure inventions, but twisted forms of the truth, acquired from varying (or even conflicting) versions of what Noah's sons passed on to their sons. Wicked sons who, instead of honoring the God of Noah, began to worship themselves and their ancestors were the inventors of the myths. Moreover, they gave honor to the serpent of Eden and to the apple rather than to the God who had created the Garden along with all the Earth and all life within it.

The True God saw this dangerous situation and rectified it, calling out a people of His own from that cradle of civilization, and then telling the Truth through their prophets (in the Old Testament), thus acting as a Light for all peoples and nations amid many dark versions of the Truth. Non-believers have yet to realize that God was concerned enough with mankind to set the record straight in spite of his many enemies.

It would seem to be fact, from the quote below, that Sumerians of some sort knew about the Garden of Eden even prior to the writing of Genesis, wherefore the history of the event must have been passed down by Noah's sons. I don't know the origin of the following quote, and it's one of a kind online, but here you have it:

"Dumuzi...also bears the Sumerian title mulu-edin-na "Lord of Edin."

As Dumuzi in Uruk was not far from the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates river, Sumerians of some sort must have known that Eden had been at that confluence. The Garden was/is no longer visible, as it now sits about 3,000 feet below ground level. How do I know? Because crude-oil sources in the region are 3,000 feet deep, give or take some. These sources constitute some of the world's richest supply, predictably in that Eden was prolific in vegetation/forestation. There is no other way for anyone today to know that Eden was at the confluence of the two rivers unless Noah's sons passed it on, for the Garden just isn't there any more, and in fact scientists will tell us that the location where the two rivers meet was under ocean water in the time of Ur and Eridu, since those cities were on the ocean shore at the time of their building. But snow falling on Greenland and Antactica, always freezing and never running back to the oceans, causes sea level to decline gradually century after century:

"Today it is known that during the Ubaid period the waters of the world were between 1.5 and 5 metres higher than their current level, with the result that Eridu was a port city..."

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

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Who are the Habiru? Are they the Hebrews?

Judaea
http://worldcoincatalog.com/AC/C4/Judah/Judaea.htm
Archaeologist Dorothy Garrod's excavations (1929 - 34) of caves on the slopes of Mount Carmel showed that Palestine (refers to present day Israel, Jordan and Palestine) was inhabited by the Neanderthals. The culture and tools of these Neanderthals groups were similar to the ones living in Europe.

Excavations at Ain Mallaha and Jericho showed that a culture called Natufian existed during the Mesolithic Period (Middle Stone Age). Natufians lived in caves as did their Paleolithic predecessors and might have practiced primitive agriculture. During the Neolithic Period (New Stone Age - 7000 BCE) inhabitants there domesticated of animals, cultivated of crops, produced pottery and built permanent villages.

During Copper Age (4th millennium BCE ) the Ghassulians immigrated to Palestine. Their origin is probably Jordan Valley. Pottery and copper axes from the excavations near Beersheba linked them to Tulaylat al-Ghassul site of Jordan. In late 4th millennium BCE a new population immigrated from the north. In time, all these peoples amalgamated into an early Bronze Age (3rd millennium) urban population of Palestine.

During early Bronze Age (c. 3000 BCE) the towns of Palestine had developed. There were different tribes. Some semi-nomadic pastoralists of the east hill country were called Amorites. The population of the plains and coast was called Canaanites. A group of people called Hyksos, possibly related to the Amorites, took control of northern Egypt in about 1630 BCE. The Hyksos might have been groups of people of Semitic origin, called the Habiru, or Hapiru (Egyptian 'Apiru). The term Habiru, meaning outsiders, was applied to nomads, fugitives, bandits, and workers of inferior status. It is etymologically related to Hebrew. Egyptians expelled the Hyksos into Palestine in the late Middle Bronze Age (c. 1550 BCE). The Habiru had established a military aristocracy in Palestine.

Around 1292 BCE, new migrants of monotheistic semi-nomadic Hebrew tribes called Israelites moved from the east into Palestine. Three other peoples were settling in Palestine at the time, the Edomites in the south, the Moabites east of the Dead Sea, and the Ammonites near the Syrian Desert east of Gilead.

Another group of invaders from the Aegean sea called the Philistines conquered the coastal region of Palestine in the early 12th century. In the next hundred years, they replaced Canaanites from the coastal plains. The Philistines were identified as Peleset, the mercenaries used by Ramses III of Egypt.

Constant conflict with their neighbors made Israelite tribes unite under a strong tribal chieftain named Saul. He became King of Israel (c.1020 BCE). He defeated the Ammonites and the Philistines but was killed in battle against Philistines (c.1000 BCE). David became the King and decisively defeated the Philistines around 990 BCE and also conquered the three Hebrew states east of the Jordan River and enlarged Kingdom of Israel.

Solomon became the King after the death of King David. During the reign of King Solomon (mid10th century), control was lost over outlying territories conquered by David. He also built the First Temple (957 BCE), the royal palace in Jerusalem and numerous fortified towns. Israelites were forced to submit to conscription in royal labor gangs. People of northern Israel revolted after King Solomon's death. Kingdom of Israel split into two states. Northern part with ten tribes of Israel became the kingdom of Israel, and southern part with two tribes (Judah and Benjamin) became Kingdom of Judah with Jerusalem as capital.

Assyrian king Tiglath-pileser III conquered Israel in 722 BCE which led to the partial dispersion of the 10 northern tribes and their gradual assimilation by other peoples (Legends thus refers to them as the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel). Judah with the two tribes of Israelites survived till 586 BCE. It was conquered by the Babylonian King Nebuchadrezzar in 586 BCE. He destroyed the First Temple of Jerusalem and sent the inhabitants into exile in Babylon.

Cyrus II (c. 590-.529 BCE) of Persia conquered Babylon in 538 BCE. Cyrus II allowed Jewish exiles in Babylon to return to Jerusalem. He also decreed in c. 538 BCE to rebuild the First Temple of Jerusalem. The history of the Jews from that time onward is predominantly the history of the tribe of Judah which also absorbed Benjamin while in exile at Babylon.

Kings of Persia ruled Judaea till Alexander III defeated Darius III in 330 BCE.
Probably Persian Kings were the first to start minting coins in Judea as their use became widespread in Persian Empire.
Who are the Haibiru? Are they Jews? Or are they the Hyksos?

The Habiru
http://oilismastery.blogspot.com/2011/03/habiru.html
"Some Egyptian monuments mention an enigmatic people: the 'Apiru'. In one of these was carved on the stone walls a scene depicting men working at a wine press. Beneath the picture was a title which ran: 'Straining out wine by the Apiru'. The date of the monument is believed to be during the reign of queen Hatshepshut and Tutmose III, about the year 2290 (1470 b.c.e.).

Scholars immediately recognized the similarity of the word 'Apiru' to 'Hebrew', with a scene depicting manual labour, as described in Exodus for Hebrew people under bondage in Egypt. From the Papyrus Leiden, dated to the reign of Ramose II, about the year 2510 (1250 b.c.e.), the following statement is made in a letter: 'Issue grain to the men of the army and to the Apiru who draw stone for the great pylon of Ramses II'. Again we see Apiru in bondage in Egypt down to the time of Ramose II. They were being used as quarrymen and manual labourers. These references to the Apiru in Egyptian documents and on monuments show their presence in Egypt, and their social importance, for more than three centuries. The same people are called elsewhere 'Habiru' or 'Habiri'." -- The Mysterious 'Habiru' and the Hebrews

"By 2000 B.C.E., if not considerably before, these people were widespread, and already an established part of different societies and different kingdoms." -- Israel A History, The Akkadians and the Habiru

Are the Habiru the Hebrews?
Many say No

"The king of Jerusalem pointed to the roving tribes penetrating from the wastes of Trans-Jordan, and called them 'Habiru'. 'Habiru' is derived from the Hebrew root 'haber', 'a member of a band', and 'habiru' means 'bandits,' and is used for 'companions of thieves' in Isaiah 1:23, 'troops of robbers' in Hosea 6:9, and 'companion of a destroyer' in Proverbs 28:24. This meaning of the word 'Habiru' should have been suggested by the fact that 'sa-gaz', which is translated as 'bandits,' 'cutthroats,' is interchanged with the term 'Habiru.' The various theories about Habiru ('Khabiru') of the el-Amarna letters -- that it signifies 'Ivri' ('Hebrew'), or 'apiru' (miners), or 'Afiru' (from the Babylonian region of Afiru) -- are thus found to be without foundation." -- Immanuel Velikovsky, polymath, Ages in Chaos, Volume I, 1952

It is time to clarify for BAR readers the widely discussed relationship between the habiru, who are well documented in Egyptian and Near Eastern inscriptions, and the Hebrews of the Bible. There is absolutely no relationship!" -- Anson F. Rainey, professor, Shasu or Habiru: Who Were the Early Israelites?, Biblical Archaeology Review, Volume 34, Number 6, Nov/Dec 2008

I say Yes

"The Tell-el-Amarna letters carry on the general picture of Palestinian and Syrian life almost to the entrance of the Jews into the valley of the Nile. It is probable, though not certain, that the 'Habiru' spoken of in this correspondence were the Hebrews." -- Will Durant, historian, The Story of Civilization, Volume I, Our Oriental Heritage, 1935

"The equation Habiru-Hebrews is still accepted by a large number of scholars...." -- Immanuel Velikovsky, polymath, Ages in Chaos, Volume I, 1952

"Julius Lewy, in an article entitled 'Origin and signification of the biblical term Hebrew', demonstrated most convincingly that the term 'ibrim is to be taken as signifying the Habiru." -- J. Weingreen, Saul and the Habiru, Volume 4, Number 1, Pages 63-66, 1967

To the amazement and delight of scholars, the so-called Amarna Letters included correspondence from the warlords and chieftains of the land of Canaan that, intriguingly, contained intelligence reports about the threat of a newly arrived band of marauders called the Habiru (or Apiru, as the term is sometimes rendered in English) who were waging a war of conquest throughout Canaan.

'The Apiru plunder all the lands of the king,' complained a Canaanite chieftain named Abdu-Heba, who ruled the city-state of Jerusalem as a vassal of Pharaoh and who begged the Egyptian king to send an expeditionary force to protect him from the plunderers. 'If there are archers here in this year, the lands of the king, my lord, will remain intact; but if there are no archers here, the lands of the king my lord will be lost.'

Suddenly and dramatically, the archaeological record seemed to corroborate some of the crucial events described in the Bible. The existence of the Habiru in Egypt had already been reported in a few non-provocative pieces of evidence -- two papyri from the reign of Ramses II, for example, depict a work-gang of Habiru 'dragging up stone for temples built by [the pharaoh]' -- and now the Amarna Letters placed the Habiru in Canaan at a date that was consistent with the chronology of the Exodus as reported in the biblical text. Some scholars began to argue that the Habiru of the Amarna Letters and the Hebrews of the Bible were one and the same. When the Canaanite ruler of Jerusalem complained to Pharaoh about the threat of Habiru invaders, as T. Eric Peet wrote in 1922 in Egypt and the Old Testament, 'we are to see the Hebrews under Joshua entering Palestine.'" -- Jonathan Kirsch, historian, Moses: A Life, 1999.
Shasu or Habiru
http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2010/s10010053.htm
The oldest historical mention of ancient Israel occurs in the Merneptah stele, an Egyptian monument dated to 1208 B.C. But mention of Israel's God, Yahweh, occurs even earlier in Egyptian inscriptions in conjunction with a group of people called the Shasu.

Among ancient Egyptian designations for types of foreign peoples in the New Kingdom Period (1550–1070 BC), the term Shasu occurs fairly frequently. It is generally accepted that the term Shasu means nomads or Bedouin people, referring primarily to the nomadic peoples of Syria-Palestine. There are two hieroglyphic references in New Kingdom Period texts to an area called “the land of the Shasu of Yahweh.” Except for the Old Testament, these are the oldest references found in any ancient texts to the God Yahweh.
THE TERM SHASU

The term Shasu is found in a variety of New Kingdom hieroglyphic texts including the military, administrative, and diplomatic documents of pharaohs Thutmosis III, Amenhotep II, Thutmosis IV, Amenhotep III, Akhenaton, Seti I, Ramses II, Merneptah, and Ramses III.

The vast majority of scholars who have written on the Shasu, stress that they were a people who were not totally nomadic. There were specific geographic areas associated in Egyptian topographical texts with the Shasu, thus indicating that at least some Shasu lived a somewhat settled existence in defined areas. “Semi-nomadic” is probably a more accurate translation.

The term Shasu is almost exclusively used in New Kingdom texts for semi-nomadic peoples living in parts of Lebanon, Syria, Sinai, Canaan, and Transjordan, and for people groups clearly identified as Semitic herders. The Shasu were rarely if ever under the control of the Egyptian government and were almost always looked upon as enemies of the Egyptians. For example, at the famous Battle of Kadesh in ca. 1275 BC, there were Shasu soldiers who were allies of the Hittites against Ramses II.

It is very likely that the Egyptians of the New Kingdom Period classified all of the ancient Edomites, Ammonites, Moabites, Amalekites, Midianites, Kenites, Hapiru, and Israelites as Shasu. There is even a reference dating to ca. 1250 BC in Papyrus Anastasi I to a group of giant Shasu living in Canaan who may be identified with the giants encountered by the Israelites at the time of the Exodus.

THE LAND OF THE SHASU OF YAHWEH

The New Kingdom inscriptions which refer to “the Land of the Shasu of Yahweh” are found in two topographical lists. The lists are found inscribed on the walls of temples, one at Soleb and the second at Amarah-West.

Soleb, a temple dedicated to the god Amon-Re, was built by the Egyptian Pharaoh Amenhotep III around 1400 BC. Today it is located in the nation of Sudan, on the left bank of the Nile about 135 miles south of Wadi-Halfa. Amarah-West, which is also located in Sudan, is a construction of Ramses II in the 13th century. The section of the Amarah-West topographical list which contains the reference to “the land of the Shasu of Yahweh,” is not original with Ramses II, and was almost certainly copied from the earlier list at Soleb.

Egyptologists in general do not question the appearance of the name Yahweh in these two ancient lists. For example, Donald Redford writes of the reference to Yahweh at Soleb:

For half a century it has been generally admitted that we have here the tetragrammaton, the name of the Israelite god "Yahweh;" and if this be the case, as it undoubtedly is, the passage constitutes the most precious indication of the whereabouts during the late 15th century BC of an enclave revering this god.*

Even though Egyptologists accept the appearance of the name Yahweh in these topographical lists at Soleb and Amarah-West, the implications of its appearance do not seem to have been fully appreciated by Old Testament scholars. Of course the question remains, who or what is being referred to by the word Yahweh? Is it a reference to the God of Israel? Or is it just a reference to a town or city like most of the other Shasu descriptions?

The answer to this is not known with absolute certainty, but even if Yahweh is a place in these hieroglyphic texts, it was clearly a place named after the god Yahweh of the Old Testament. Anything less seems too coincidental.

There is no topographical site in the entire region today that bears the name Yahweh or anything remotely similar. There is also no biblical reference or ancient historical source that mentions a topographical site named Yahweh.

EGYPTIAN SYNCRETISM AND THE GOD YAHWEH

The Egyptians were known to have worshipped foreign gods and goddesses. The West Semitic goddess Astarte, who probably evolved out of Semitic Ishtar and/or Sumerian Inanna, was a goddess of love and fertility. She does not appear in Egyptian texts until the reign of Amenhotep II in the 15th century BC, when she is mentioned in that king's famous sphinx stele. In the New Kingdom Period Astarte was made a consort of Set and a daughter of Re. In Egyptian art, Astarte is depicted standing on a horse, with a crown on her head, and holding various weapons. A temple to her was built at Tell el Daba, biblical Rameses, a city site associated both with the Israelites and the Hyksos.

Another West Semitic female warrior deity revered in Egypt was Anath, who appears as early as the late Middle Kingdom, perhaps as a part of the influx of Semites into Egypt that eventually produced the so-called Hyksos period. After a brief hiatus in Dynasty 18, Anath enjoyed a resurgence of popularity in Dynasty 19, being credited with military victories of Seti I and his son Ramses II. The center of her worship was the Delta. Because of the sexual nature of her worship, Anath was viewed as an associate of a number of sexually-oriented Egyptian deities: Min, Hathor, and Set. She was depicted either wearing a traditional Egyptian sheath dress or as wearing nothing at all. She also tended to be shown holding weapons, such as a spear or battle-axe.

Reshef, a Canaanite god of war and thunder, seems to have been introduced into Egypt by the Hyksos. As king of the netherworld, Reshef was thought to bring plague and war upon humanity. The Egyptians depicted him in a distinctly Syrian style, with kilt, beard, and horned helmet, but he could also be shown wearing the White Crown of Upper Egypt and holding the Egyptian ankh and scepter, or sometimes holding Canaanite weapons. This, along with Reshef’s insertion as a member of a trinity of deities with the god Min and the goddess Qadesh, shows the marked degree of syncretistic integration of foreign deities into the Egyptian pantheon.

However Yahweh was for some reason treated very differently. Clearly the Egyptians knew about Yahweh as can be seen in the Soleb and Amarah-West topographical lists, but they did not worship him, and they apparently did not want to worship him.

Nor was Yahweh equated to or identified with any Egyptian deity. There were no temples to Yahweh built by the Egyptians, nor were there any artistic representations made of him, or in fact even any discussions of him in Egyptian texts. It appears that the ancient Egyptians placed Yahweh into a category all by himself. To say the least, this is very strange for the syncretistic Egyptians. A possible explanation is that Yahweh was seen by the Egyptians as an enemy God, of an enemy tribal group which was a part of the hated Shasu peoples who lived north of Egypt.

THE SHASU OF YAHWEH AND THE DATE OF THE EXODUS

There are two indisputable facts that Old Testament scholars must face when dealing with these hieroglyphic references to the Shasu of Yahweh. First, there is no doubt that the name of the Israelite God Yahweh appears in these hieroglyphic texts at Soleb and Amarah-West. And second, at Soleb the reference to Yahweh dates to 1400 BC, during the reign of Pharaoh Amenhotep III. In other words Pharaoh Amenhotep III, or his scribes, knew about the Hebrew God Yahweh in 1400 BC. This fact is highly significant when trying to date the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt under Moses.

In Exodus 5:2 Pharaoh answers the first request of Moses to allow the Israelites to go into the desert to worship Yahweh by saying: “Who is Yahweh that I should obey His voice to let Israel go? I do not know Yahweh, and besides I will not let the Israelites go.” Pharaoh appears here to be saying that he had never heard of the God Yahweh. This interpretation of Pharaoh’s statement is reinforced by Exodus 7:17 where God responds to Pharaoh: “Thus says Yahweh, ‘by this you will know that I am Yahweh, behold I will strike the water that is in the Nile with the staff that is in my hand, and it will become blood.’” (NASV)

In his third meeting with Moses and Aaron after the second plague, Pharaoh clearly recognized Yahweh as some sort of deity and asked Moses and Aaron to pray to Yahweh to remove the plague of frogs (see Exodus 8:8). If the Pharaoh of the Exodus had never before heard of the God Yahweh, this strongly suggests that the Exodus should be dated no later than 1400 BC because Pharaoh Amenhotep III had clearly heard about Yahweh by that time.

CONCLUSION

It is clear that there once was a group of Shasu Bedouin/nomads living in Syria-Palestine who were associated with either a deity or a place named Yahweh. It is also clear that the name Yahweh was known to the Egyptians in the 18th Dynasty during the reign of Pharaoh Amenhotep III.

But it must be admitted at this point that we also know from the Old Testament that there were other worshippers of Yahweh in Canaan who did not go into Egypt and therefore did not leave Egypt at the time of the Exodus. The question thus arises, were they perhaps the Shasu of Yahweh mentioned at Soleb and Amarah?

Although we do not have all the information that we wish we did, it is significant that there are no mentions of the Shasu of Yahweh in Egyptian texts earlier than the reign of Amenhotep III. If the group in question were Yahweh followers who never went to Egypt, why are they absent in topographical lists from the early period of the 18th Dynasty, for example, from the extensive topographical lists of Thutmosis III? The reason may very well be because the Shasu of Yahweh were indeed the Israelites and that they were still living in Egypt in the early 18th Dynasty.

The fact that the Shasu of Yahweh first appear in topographical lists under Amenhotep III in ca. 1400 BC fits perfectly with the Early Date of the Exodus, but this fact presents major problems for those scholars who prefer a Late Date for the Exodus during the reign of Pharaoh Ramses II in the 13th century BC. In any case, these references to Yahweh have been ignored for far too long by both conservative and liberal Bible scholars.

It thus appears very likely that the Shasu of Yahweh, who are mentioned in the topographical texts at Soleb and Amarah-West, were the Israelites who by about 1400 BC had settled into their own land in the mountains of Canaan. It also appears that for the ancient Egyptians the one feature that distinguished the Israelites from all the other Shasu (Semitic herders) in this area was their worship of the God Yahweh.

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 7:14 am

Are the Haibrus the Hyksos?

The Mysterious Habirus
http://www.imninalu.net/Habiru.htm
What is the meaning of this statement? Why was Ever, the fifth of eleven patriarchs from Noach to Avraham, mentioned in this particular way, as one who is the acknowledged ancestor of some special descent that actually begins six generations later? The genealogic line splits into two branches after him, implying that many peoples are his children before Avraham was born, including the branch from which Avraham does not come...

The eleven-generation line from Noach to Avraham is: Noach, Shem, Arpakshad, Shelach, Ever, Peleg, Re'u, Serug, Nachor, Terach, Avraham, who is considered the father of all Hebrews, but also the father of other nations... actually, the people universally recognized as Hebrews began to exist even two generations later after
Yitzhak and Ya'kov, who is Israel. Was Avraham a Hebrew, being himself the father of Hebrews? Do the statement in Bereshyit 10:21 convey any meaning?

Some scholars speculate that the Israelites did not peak Hebrew as their original language but adopted it from their Canaanite neighbours when they moved into that territory. However, the weight of linguistic evidence from around the world speaks against such supposition. We simply do not have sufficient knowledge of those times to say which language resided in which territory by which group of people and how the people and the languages may have moved and mixed from one area to another. But we now know with a wealth of explicit evidence that Hebrew is the language in which the Scriptures were written, and they are among the most ancient documents we have.

Some Egyptian monuments mention an enigmatic people: the "Apiru". In one of these was carved on the stone walls a scene depicting men working at a wine press. Beneath the picture was a title which ran: "Straining out wine by the Apiru". The date of the monument is believed to be during the reign of queen Hatshepshut and Tutmose III, about the year 2290 (1470 b.c.e.). Scholars immediately recognized the similarity of the word "Apiru" to "Hebrew", with a scene depicting manual labour, as described in Exodus for Hebrew people under bondage in Egypt.

From the Papyrus Leiden, dated to the reign of Ramose II, about the year 2510 (1250 b.c.e.), the following statement is made in a letter: "Issue grain to the men of the army and to the Apiru who draw stone for the great pylon of Ramses II". Again we see Apiru in bondage in Egypt down to the time of Ramose II. They were being used as quarrymen and manual labourers.

These references to the Apiru in Egyptian documents and on monuments show their presence in Egypt, and their social importance, for more than three centuries. The same people are called elsewhere "Habiru" or "Habiri".

Er-Heba, the Egyptian ruler in Jerusalem, wrote a series of letters to the king in which he complained about the "Habiru". The Habiru were plundering the lands of the king. Er-Heba wanted to know why the king was leaving them behave in this way; why was he not sending archers to protect his, the king's, properties. If he did not send military help the whole land would be given to the Habiru.

If the events of this period were those described by Yehoshua in the Scriptures they would place the Exodus prior to the fourteenth century b.c.e., in agreement with more traditional estimates.

The activities of the Habiri in Southern Canaan concern many scholars; they believe this area was not attached to Israelite territory until much later. However, Chapters 10 to 12 in the Book of Yehoshua describe just such conquest, with the very names listed in the Amarna tablets, including Lachish, Gezer, Gath, and the king of Jerusalem. A quote from one tablet shows the state of affairs: "See the deed which Milkilu and Shuwardata have done to the land of the king, my lord! They have the troops of Gezer, troops of Gath, and troops of Qeila. They have seized the land of Rubute. The land of the king has fallen away to the Habiri. And now, even a city of the Jerusalem district, Bit-nin'ib by name, a city of the king, has fallen away to the side of the people of Qeila. Let the king listen to Er-Heba, your servant, and send an army of archers that they might restore the land of the king to the king. For if there are no army of archers the land of the king will fall away to the Habiri.".

The identification of groups of Habiri and their activities corresponds well to the conquest of Canaan described in the Book of Yehoshua. The Amarna letters suggest that this class of people held unique status in the Near East. All these documents lead to fully identify the Habiru with the Israelites, until other sources bring great perplexity...

The Apiru are obviously a recognizable people distinct from others. If the Apiru were Hebrews, not all of them were descended from the original twelve Tribes, and other Semitic groups (maybe the Hyksos among them) were included.

The span of dates covers the period of the exile in Egypt and also well after the Exodus. It seems evident that not all Apiru left Egypt; some remained behind. This means that not all Semitic peoples in Egypt joined the Israelites, though many did.

Although not of tribal identity, with a specific geographical location, it was given special regard. The location of the Habiri in Southern Syria, Phoenicia, and Canaan suggests that the term was used generally for the Semitic tribes of those areas. It described a particular Semitic stock which, by historical times, had divided into numerous tribes and separate, identifiable ethnic groups.

The earliest known reference to the Habiru are from Sumer and date from the Third Dynasty of Ur, about the year 1760 (2000 b.c.e.). A characteristic of this period was the expansion of Semitic peoples; mainly native Akkadian speaking groups. Concurrent with this influx of Semites the terms Habiru/Habiri begin to appear in Sumerian documents. The documents show that the Habiru/Habiri were a new element in society, that they were attempting to establish themselves, and that the judicial system was having difficulty defining their legal status.

All the Sumerian records show that the Habiri were active in service roles in the community, as well as the Israelites did in Egypt, and later in the court of Nebukhadnetzar.

Excavations at Kultepe and Alishar in ancient Anatolia, uncovered several hoards of letters and legal and economic texts, belonging to Assyrian trading stations of the old Akkadian period. Among these documents was a letter from one Assyrian merchant to another requesting that he seek the release of Habiri men who were in custody at the palace of Shalahshuwe, an unidentified neighbour, possibly north of Alishar. This land is near the residence of Avraham's family after they left Ur. From this ancient record we see that the Habiri are located in central Anatolia and show the widespread dispersion of those people before Avraham's times. If the recipient of his letter is uncertain of the cost he is reminded that the Habiri themselves have much money and could use it for their own release. In any case, the author of the letter wants to make sure they are released. He held them in high regard.

An Amorite kingdom dominated Mesopotamia in Avraham's times, from Babylon in the south to Haran in the north, and across to the Mediterranean (all the lands that Avraham covered in his travels from Ur of the Chaldeans to Haran and Canaan). This period was the golden age of the city of Mari, that included some minor states among which appear some Habiri rulers. One document states that Yapah Adad had built up the town of Zallul on the banks of the Euphrates and, with 2000 Habiri soldiers, was then located in that town. In another document Izinabu, a Yamubalite chief, had 30 Habiru men march in his charge. In still another letter in which the destination and sender have been lost "3000 asses of the Habiri" are mentioned. (Note the corresponding use of asses by the Hebrew tribes described in the Scriptures). In other letters the Habiru men went by night and seized the town of Yahmumam, attempted to seize other towns, and raided Luhaya seizing 500 sheep and 10 men. The Habiri were a recognizable part of the population.

The Habiru are mentioned in many documents of the Hurrian state of Nuzi, where they have been an important part of society.

What is remarkably interesting is that the ancient peoples ascribe to the Habiru a mysterious relationship with the Divinity. In Hittite documents long lists of gods are invoked to protect the treaties. They include deities from many different regions and people. The curious nature of this invocation is illustrated by a treaty with Egypt. This list concludes with the following words: "and so on to... and the Hapiri Gods,...". Significantly the Hapiru/Habiri Elohim had special mention, and although they are not identified by Name, they also could not be forgotten.

The same particularity has been found in Assyrian temples, in which the Habiru are mentioned among the deities. This mention of the Habiru among a list of deities shows explicitly that they were considered as having divine origins. They were different from ordinary people, including rulers and magistrates.

Several Assyrian omen texts were discovered in which it appears that the Habiri were associated with ominous celestial phenomena and with some unknown afflictions. They were thought to carry divine powers.

In Egypt the Apir name appears a number of places combined with a divine name; the titles suggest specific identification as Apir deities. From Anatolia, to the Mesopotamian Basin, to Egypt, the Habiri were regarded with special social and religious status. Based on the historic evidence, an association of the Habiri with divinity cannot be avoided. While the exact significance of each of these references is unknown, it would not have been possible for the people who lived, worked, and travelled with Habiri to ignore the divine association. That factor must have been present in the mind of everyone; it was universally recognized and accepted. They were of special genetic stock, a "Chosen People".

The result of this research leads to the following conclusions:

The Habiri existed since the most ancient times. They are present in the first documents available to us, hundreds of years earlier than Avraham. They were scattered all over the Near East from Egypt to Mesopotamia, to the extremities of Assyria, along the coast of the Mediterranean through Canaan, and in the regions of Anatolia. They are not limited to any geographical area, any nation, or any social category; they appear at every level of society, in many different activities. They usually wandered from place to place. The movements of Terah, Avraham, and other members of that family were according to the habits of the general Habiri people. This is the reason by which the Sumerians were attempting to define their social roles. They truly were "wandering Arameans", though their origin is Akkadian/Assyrian, being descendants from Arphakshad. Notwithstanding these "wandering Arameans" were the path through which the ancient Semitic linguistic world memories were preserved. They certainly played a unique role in reconnecting us with the remote history of mankind. They also brought a genetic line down into historic times, with Avraham chosen as the outstanding representative of that blood blessing.

The Habiru had a Deity whose Name was unknown to the other peoples, and also to themselves, as the Name was not revealed to anybody before Mosheh Rabainu. The fact that their Divinity's name was unknown is a further proof that identifies them with the "Children of Ever". The enigmatic MalkiTzedek, kohen of El-Elyon (Bereshyit 14:18), whoever he was corresponds to the characteristics of a Habiru authority, holder of the original spirituality which Avraham himself followed.

Their bondage in Egypt is now better understood. It was an economic bondage contracted during a time of need. They bought food and shelter in Egypt by selling their services, under established practices of those days. Succeeding generations were born into that bondage for lack of means to buy their freedom. The Egyptians probably perpetuated severe conditions in order to preserve a source of cheap labour. When Egypt was ravaged by plagues, Shemot chapters 7 to 11, the whole country was in havoc. The Israelites seized that opportunity to make their escape.

The documentary evidence shows they were extremely versatile and socially flexible, and were regarded with social respect. The Habiri had no fixed place in the social order where they chose to live; they were accepted in a foreign sense, not as part of a local social group.

The "Children of Ever" were many peoples. Ever himself is the father of all Yoqtanites, who settled in Southern Arabia, but the "Habiru" line continued through his other son, Peleg, from whom came Avraham and his brothers. Avraham engaged his son Yitzhak within his brother's family, in order to keep the bloodline, while Yishmael married an Egyptian and the Habiru tradition did not continue through him. The other sons of Avraham, that he had with Qeturah, seem that have partially followed the Abrahamic line, at least some Midianites (the Qeynites, of whom was Yethro, the father-in-law of Mosheh Rabainu) and Yoqshanites (the Ashurim, Lethushim and Le'ummim) were Habiru. Yitzhak followed his father's example and sent his son Ya'kov to the house of Betuel, his brother-in-law, to marry a daughter of him.

When the term "Habiru" disappears from ancient documents, the name "Ivri" (Hebrew) is applied in a restricted sense, only to Israelites.Apparently the Habiru were a social class who lost their unique identity. Their bloodline became submerged by interbreeding with other people, and could no longer be distinguished. The Hebrew people attempted to preserve the genetic lines, and thus preserved the Habiri distinction. The strength of that consciousness is witnessed yet today among the Jews who believe they are fulfilling the promises of the Scriptures, and that they have a right to the lands promised to Avraham. A few simple sentences written millennia ago carry the weight of destiny and modify the lives and actions of people living today.

The Hebrew Tribes were Habiru but not all Habiri were Hebrews. The Israelites came out of that special people and thus acquired the "Ivri" name. The statement in Bereshyit that Shem was the father of all the children of Ever now has a different meaning. The Hebrew/Habiri were the children of Ever, as that genetic line was remembered by the later Jewish scribes. This brief survey casts light on the antecedents of the Hebrew people, the Children of Israel. It offers us some insight into the selection of Avraham, the "Habiri" as the "Father of many nations". Therefore, Avraham was both a Hebrew (Habiri) and the forefather of Hebrews (Israelites).

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 7:25 am

Were the Hebrews really the Hyksos KIngs of Egypt?

The Hyksos
http://www.texdawg.com/hyksos.html
At the time of Joseph there were two ruling dynasties in Egypt. Those ruling in the land of Goshen, where the Israelites were located, were known as the HYKSOS. Racial names from the Greek form of an Egyptian word meaning “rulers of foreign lands” given to kings of the Fifteenth and Sixteenth Dynasties of Egypt. The word, which does not appear in the Bible, was later misinterpreted by Josephus as meaning “shepherd kings.”

With the decline of the Middle Kingdom of Egypt (about 2000-1786 B.C.) large numbers of Asiatics, mostly Semites like the Hebrew patriarchs, migrated into the Nile Delta of northern Egypt from Canaan. These probably came initially for reasons of economic distress, such as famine, as did Abraham (Gen. 12:10). Unlike Abraham, many groups stayed in Egypt as permanent settlers. Under the weak Thirteenth Dynasty, some Asiatics established local independent chiefdoms in the eastern Delta region. Eventually, one of these local rulers managed to consolidate the rule of northern Egypt as pharaoh, thus beginning the Fifteenth Dynasty. The Sixteenth Dynasty, perhaps contemporary with the Fifteenth, consisted of minor Asiatic kings. As these dynasties of pharaohs were not ethnic Egyptians, they were remembered by the native population as “Hyksos.”

While the Hyksos pharaohs ruled northern Egypt from Avaris in the eastern Delta, the native Egyptian Seventeenth Dynasty ruled southern Egypt from Thebes. This period of the Thirteenth to Seventeenth dynasties is known as the Second Intermediate (c. 1782-1570 B.C.) in which the Hyksos were in power (c. 1663-1555 B.C.). The status quo was maintained until war erupted between the Hyksos and the last two pharaohs of the Seventeenth Dynasty. About 1550 B.C., Ahmose I sacked Avaris and expelled the Hyksos. As the first pharaoh of a reunited Egypt, Ahmose I established the Eighteenth Dynasty and inaugurated the Egyptian New Kingdom or Empire. Ahmose I came to power at the age of 10 about 1570 B.C. and ruled until 1546 B.C. His mother was co-regent with him until he was 16 years old.

Joseph's rise to power (Gen. 41:39-45) as pharaoh's second-in-command would have been far more likely under a Hyksos king. Joseph was related ethnically to the Semitic Hyksos rulers, while the native Egyptians regarded Semites with contempt. Ahmose I is very likely the pharaoh “who did not know Joseph” (Ex. 1:8 NRSV). If Joseph served a Hyksos pharaoh, an Egyptian king would not have “known” of him in a political or historical sense, nor would he have regarded him as significant in an ethnic sense.

My chart shows the period of slavery beginning about 1550 B.C. from the time Ahmose I expelled the Hyksos. Israel 's actual time in bondage is more likely about 100 years. Moses was born in 1526 B.C., 80 years before the exodus. The birth of Moses was well after the time after the slavery began. Amenhotep I, a son of Ahmose I, was the pharaoh of Exodus 1:15-22 who commanded the that the male children should be slain. He ruled c. 1551-1524 B.C. Subsequent pharaohs of the Eighteenth Dynasty until the time of Amenhotep II subjected the Israelites to their slavery. Amenhotep II, c. 1453-1419 B.C., was the pharaoh of the exodus.
A NOTE ON THE HYKSOS & JOSEPH’S MARRIAGE
http://www.originofnations.org/HRP_Pape ... Hyksos.pdf
Details of how the Hyksos came to power are debated amongst scholars; they all agree that they usurped power during the second Intermediate Period.

Around 1750 BC the Babylonians overthrew the Kingdom of Mari (ie the Aramaeans --sometimes incorrectly labeled as Amorites by historians). Many of the tribes under Mari control migrated westwards and infiltrated into the Goshen or delta region of northern Egypt. The Egyptians called them Hikau khasut or Hyksos. Hyksos variously means “Rulers of Foreign Countries” or “Shepherd-Kings”.

Hyksos has also been identified with the Kasdim (Kassites) and Midianites, Hurrians (sometimes mistakenly identified with Horites) and especially the Aramaeans (the Mar.Tu or Amurru) whose major city was Mari, Canaanites and Amorites. This is why they are called a ‘mixed multitude’ by historians. A similar description is given to those tribes that later fled Egypt with Israel (Ex 12:38) of whom many or most had Hurrian names.

They adopted much of the culture of Egypt but ruled only the northern part of Egypt whilst the south remained under the control of the native rulers. In their religious worship they showed preference to certain deities such as Set, but they did not suppress the other gods. “The title given to Joseph’s father-in-law, priest of On, is interesting. On is the Egyptian city … Heliopolis … the centre of worship of the sun god Re”. Whether this priest was a priest of Re or the preferred Hyksos deity, Set, is not known.

It seems that it was a Hyksos monarch whom Joseph became an interpreter of dreams (Gen 41:14-37) and who ceded land to Joseph in Goshen (Gen 47:6). As such, the new king mentioned in Ex 1:8 would have been a native Egyptian monarch of the New Kingdom. He would have reversed the validity of any land claims by the Israelites and others.

The Hyksos peoples, from all accounts, were very innovative – these innovations were to prove very useful in later on in Egyptian history.

“Until this time Egypt had been technologically backward in comparison to with the Near East … Among the new techniques were bronze working … an improved potters wheel and the vertical loom; hump-backed cattle (zebu) and new vegetable and fruit crops; the horse and chariot, composite bows, and new shapes of scimitar and other weapons … new musical instruments … and … dances”.

According to The Pentateuch in Its Cultural Environment,

“Coming from the northeast, the Hyksos were basically Semitic, but their leaders seemed to be Aryans, and possibly some Hurrians. Manetho describes them as savage destroyers. He called them “Shepherd Kings,” but in Egyptian the name means “rulers of foreign lands”.

The Hyksos conquered Egypt about 1720 B.C. They soon put Semites in official positions and seemed to have some kind of relationship with the Habiru, or Apiru/Aperu in the Egyptian language. Two of the Hyksos leaders had the names Jacob-el and Jacob-baal. Joseph and the migration of Jacob’s family to Egypt may have taken place early during the Hyksos rule of Egypt”.ix [emphasis mine]

Other scholars note that name Jaqob-bar (a name akin to Jacob) was a fairly common name of the Hyksos period which gives further credence to the relationship between the Israelites and Aramaeans.

Cyrus Gordon in The Ancient Near East:

“The Hyksos hordes included Indo-European warriors [an Aryan ethnic group which included Hittites and Mitanni in the Near East]. With the Indo-Europeans the horse, effectively used for pulling the war chariot, entered the Near East and revolutionized the art of warfare. The Iranian plateau was to become a great stamping ground of the Aryans (as we may call the segment of the Indo-Europeans to which the Iranians
belong).” [emphasis mine]

So, from this we may deduce that the ruling class and many of the peoples comprising the Hyksos were European in racial stock (ie called Indo-European or Aryan by historians).

Because they were unable to quell Egyptian nationalistic feelings, the Hyksos formed an alliance with the Nubian Kingdom of Kush to contain the Egyptians. Even so, the city of Thebes in southern Egypt commenced a war which resulted in the expulsion of the Hyksos by Ahmose I. (Moses is a form of Ahmose)

The Bible and secular history mention of a people called the Apiru, Khabiru, Hapiru or Hebrews, who were in the Middle East prior to the Exodus. Who were they?

Let us first notice the pertinent scriptures:

“Moreover the Hebrews that were with the Philistines before that time ... turned to be with the Israelites” (I Sam. 14:21).

“And Jonathan smote the garrison of the Philistines that was in Geba, and the Philistines heard of it. And Saul blew the trumpet, throughout all the land, saying,

‘Let the Hebrews hear' ...

“And some of the Hebrews went over Jordan to the land of Gad and Gilead” (I Sam.
13:3,7).

These are not Israelite Hebrews, but different Hebrews altogether who descend from Eber, grandson of Arphaxad.

They are first mentioned c.2000 BC where they are found wandering all over the Near East: Alakh, Amarna, Boghazkoy, Babylon, Larsa, Mari, Nuzi, Ugarit and Palestine. The Khabiru appear to have been mercenaries fighting for the Hittites and Hurrians. There was even a valley of Habur between Euphrates and the Tigris. Ethnically they were Indo-Europeans of the same stock as the Hittites and the Hurriansi. Apparently they were concentrated in the general area from where Abram came from - Northern Syria/Northern Mesopotamiai. Many of their names are Hurrian (Indo-European), and being with the Hurrians may be the reason for Palestine being known as “the land of Huru”.

Later, many of them were allies of the Aramaeans and helped them rule northern Egypt as we have seen.

Did Joseph marry an Egyptianitess?

This is what we are told:

“Gen 41:44 And Pharaoh said to Joseph, I am Pharaoh, and without a word from you, no man shall lift up his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt.

Gen 41:45 And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnath-paaneah. And he gave him Asenath, the daughter of Potipherah, priest of On, for his wife. And Joseph went out over the land of Egypt.” (see also 46:20, 34)

It does not state that she was an Egyptian at all. Now, given that On was in the Goshen area where the Hyksos and their aristocracy settled, it is reasonable to assume that he married into that stock for the Egyptians proper were driven southwards.

Although her name is Egyptian, remember that most Black Americans, for example, have names of Whites, so a name itself is not proof for her being a Black Egyptian. Note Ex 2:16-19 where Moses is called an Egyptian for example.

The Aramaeans were closely akin to the Hebrews. Aram is a son of Shem (Genesis 10:22). The Israelites were even taught to say "A Syrian (Aramaean) ready to perish was my father" (Deuteronomy 26:5). In Genesis 24 and 29 we find that the kinship of the Hebrews and Arameans was cemented by the marriage of Isaac with Rebekah, the sister Aramaean, Laban; and later of Jacob with his daughters. In I Chronicles 7:14 the Israelite Manasseh marries an Aramaean woman. This demonstrates the ethnic closeness of the descendants of Arphaxad through the generations to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, with the descendants of Aram.

As we have seen, there were fair number of Hyksos and Aramaeans (wrongly translated as ‘Syrian’) living at the edge of Goshen, where the Israelites were later to dwell. After they were expelled, the Egyptians turned on Israel. See Deut 26:4-8 where Jacob is called an Aramaean because of the close association with them (and the Hyksos).

Why did Israel live in the area of Goshen and not further south?

Lev 20:24 “But I have said to you, You shall inherit their land, and I, I am giving it to you to possess it, a land that flows with milk and honey. I am Jehovah your God, who has separated you from the nations.” (compare Acts 17:26)

It was under the Hyksos, ethnically related to Joseph, that he rose to prominence and his wife must have been of this stock. After the Hyksos were overthrown and expelled from Egypt, Israel fell from favour and was enslaved. Today the Khabiru are probably in northern Europe, with other descendants of Abraham or northern Germany or even perhaps Denmark. A prophecy in Numbers appears to suggest the possibility of Eber being located close to Assur.
PATRIARCHS OR PHARAOHS?
http://www.egyptcx.netfirms.com/partria ... araohs.htm
We have not been introduced to the much hidden fact that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not a family of poor, captive, downtrodden shepherds at all. They were nothing less than the Hyksos, the "Shepherd Kings", pharaohs of Egypt.

Far from being poor vagabonds from the desert, they were the most important and most powerful men in their time, controlling most of the known world and its wealth, and this is why their story is important. It is an ancient history where some of the protagonists could trace their royal lineage back through 73 generations, as could Jesus.

How many royal families, let alone carpenters' families, can do that? (Luke 3:23). This idea may seem to be a staggering reversal of biblical history, one evolved out of a vivid imagination, but it is also a concept that can be supported with plenty of evidence.

As a starting point, take a look at an encyclopaedia of the pharaohs of Egypt and flick through the pages until you reach the sixteenth dynasty, the period that covers the last of the Hyksos pharaohs. The last pharaoh listed, as mentioned in a prior article, is Pharaoh Yacobaam, the pharaoh that I mentioned when we started this study (S. Quirke, Who Were The Pharoahs). But there is more here than just the similarity of this name to the biblical Jacob. Evidence of a direct link to the Hyksos pharaohs has already been presented and that link can now be proved quite firmly, for there is also a clue to this particular pharaoh's beliefs.

Judaism, Christianity and even the early Essene cult of Israel all have an initiation process that involves immersion in water. In Egypt, the body of the great God of Osiris was floated down the Nile in a casket prior to his resurrection and this is possibly based on a similar Sumerian tradition of great leaders being "taken from the water". Moses, too, was apparently named because he was a prince that had been cast upon the Nile in a basket and "taken from the water" (Exodus 2:10).

Exod 2:10 10 And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water. (KJV)

We already know that Moses (Akhenaton) was a Pharaoh himself and this dovetails exactly with such traditions regarding the Pharoahs. Whatever the origins of this tradition, it is clear, that water was central to the Israelite faith; it could even be considered to be their shibboleth or marker. This is very important when looking at the name of the pharaoh Yacobaam.

Pharaonic names are always presented in a cartouche, a more or less oval or oblong figure, which is read from the rounded end to the flat end. The cartouche was actually supposed to represent a coil of rope around the name and it gave the name and its owner symbolic protection. There is a curious coincidence in the cartouche of the pharaoh Yacobaam in that the final glyph in the name is (a glyph is most often a symbolic character, but it can also represent an alphabetic letter). The glyph has the phonetic value "mw" and when used as a complete word, it also means water, as might be expected from its shape (which resembles "waves").

In studying the cartouche of Yacobaam, we notice that the "J" and the "Y" are interchangeable in Hebrew, so Yacobaam can equally be Jacobaam. The final glyph in this name, the "waves," which has the phonetic value of "mw;"gives the traditional "m" sound at the end of the pharaonic name. However, if this glyph is taken instead as being a determinative for water (a determinative is always at the end of the word) and not the phonetic glyph "mw", we can delete this letter and the name of this pharaoh suddenly changes to Jacoba. The determinative at the end adds meaning to the name by indicating the person's function or title, thus we derive Jacoba (who is from the water) or, perhaps, Jacoba (who baptizes).

Equally, the Hebrew translation of Jacob is "to follow" and this pharaoh's cartouche contains the glyph in the shape of a "foot." The leg glyphs are all concerned with movement and journeys. Simply knowing the phonetic value and meaning of the name can change the entire perception of the word. Suddenly, the biblical Jacob, father of Joseph, becomes the historical Jacoba, a Hyksos Egyptian pharaoh. You have just seen a revolution in theology, but it is only a small step in a long process of uncovering the truth as you will continue to see.

The major implication is that the Biblical family of Abraham and the other Patriarchs are about to be transformed in terms of their political, secular, and religious importance. This revelation we received through study of the Egyptian roots of the Jewish people will be constantly backed up by the ancient texts themselves. The first step towards this transformation is to readjust our perceptions of the past. The story we were taught and the accounts written by Ezra that ended up in the Tanakh are wrong.

Throw out the years of established dogma that clouds our normally rational and critical analysis of the world and look at history anew. We need to focus on the truths we have seen; a ruling dynasty that has managed to escape the recognition of millions due to the changing of history by Ezra through the forging of the history of the Jewish race. Add to this that these people are dark skinned; black we would call it. That is quite a revelation to Aryian Chrisitans I bet.

For over 2,500 years these truths have been hidden from the masses along with a proper understanding of what true Abrahamic Faith is all about. The presentation of Abrahamic Faith as contained in these Jewish Scriptures as we received them as the work product of Ezra, a Persian, has been stripped of its Egyptian roots and its Egyptian Religious format. We have totally been misled when viewing this Biblical family for over 2,500 years at present; a family that is not even recognized by the faithful that worship it to this day.

The Torah and Old Testament were never intended to be simple tales of Asiatic tribes and sheep herders. The true story is a complete history of the ruling family of Egypt, the "royal bloodline".

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 12:35 pm

Was Moses really the Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten and not a “Hyksos King”? Was that just a cover up for his Egyptian origins? Did Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten, founder of the Aten cult, become Moses, the Semitic warrior priest of Jehovah?

Pharaoh Akhenaten (Ikhnaton) Esoteric Identity as the Biblical Exodus Moses and King Sargon 1 of Assyria
http://theuniversityofgod.org/SoON2.3_A ... enaten.pdf
The 18 the Dynasty Ancient Egypt/Kemit Pharaoh and “Aten Path” Master Akhunaten (Akhenaen/Ikhnaton) and so-called Jewish Biblical leader of the Exodus from Egypt to Israel Moses can be connected not only as peers as Sigmund Freud cautiously did in 1933 in his series of essays now known as Moses and Monotheism, but can be identified as the same person as Biblical Scholar and Egyptologist Ahmad Osman did in 1990 in his Moses and Akhunaten.

However, this author first identified this esoteric Akhunaten and Moses identity in 1986 based on the following esoteric evidence summarized below:

1. Egyptologists generally set the birth year of Pharaoh Akhunaten at 1404 B.C., and some like Bunsen the birth year of Moses at 1392 B.C. -- only a 12 year difference.

2. Both Pharaoh Akhunaten and Moses attended the Ancient Egyptian Mystery School of On (Annu or Heliopolis) cited in the Bible as having trained Joseph.

a. “We are told not only by the Bible, but also by the historian Philo that Moses an Initiate of the Egyptian Mysteries, also became a Hierogrammat {3rd degree Annu Mystery School priest}; learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptian people.” (from George James Stolen Legacy, pg. 67)

“Moses was indebted for this knowledge to the mother of the Egyptian princess, Thermuthis, who saved him from the waters of the Nile. The wife of Pharaoh, Batria, was an initiate herself.” (footnote Devita et Morte Mosis, Phil Jadaeus, pg. 199) (Madame Blavatsky. isis Unveiled I, pg. 25)

“Manetho {the Egyptian High Priest historian of Egypt circa 240 B.C.} says he {Moses} was a hierophant of Hieropolis, and a priest of the Sun-God Osiris, and that his name was Osarsiph.” {lbid., pg. 555}

b. Aakhunaten as “Aten Path” High Priest and then Master\Pharaoh undoubtedly attended Annu’s Mystery School, a disciple of the “Aten Path” Master Amenophis, son of the Hapi who was his father’s (Pharaoh Amenophis Ill) and his advisor and Master. (footnote Devita et Morte Mosis, Phil Jadaeus, pg. 199) (Madame Blavatsky. isis Unveiled I, pg. 25)

3. “. . . there might have been a religious link between them {Moses and Akhenaton} . . . That such a link existed is implicit in the statement by Manetho who attempted to write a coherent account of the religious schism of Aakhunaten. But halfway through, he confused it with a narrative relating to Moses {alias Osarsiph} and the last Hyksos wars .

. . . Both (allowing Moses to have been a Hyksos prince) were heirs to the throne of Egypt. Both were, in their several ways, monotheists, and both . . . most likely were priests of Heliopolis Annu Mystery School.” (from J. Colliers Heretic Pharaoh)

a. Please note that Egyptian High Priest Manetho’s History of Egypt circa 245 B.C. is the key to the esoteric identity of Pharaoh Akhunaten as Moses. It must be understood that Manetho wrote his history from the oldest indelible historical records of the Ancient Egyptian Mystery School of On (Annu) itself now missing and destroyed, under orders of the invader Ptolemy Greeks dominated by the Theban priesthood.

This priesthood’s political, religious, and economic policy is to cover up the Akhunaten/Moses identity, by confusing the facts with the Jewish (Theban priesthood dominated) peoples’ originating mythology as a distinct non-Egyptian race which once ruled Egypt as the mysterious “Hyksos" Shepherd Kings.

In short Manetho had constraints on what he could say, and what he wrote has been totally destroyed except for:

- a few quotes of his History of Egypt in Jewish Josephus’ work Contra Apionem I circa 220 AD., whose goal is to use it to prove the Jewish people are a non-Egyptian thus non-black race and as stated above the once powerful ‘Hyksos” who controlled Egypt from 200 to 511 years;


- and a separate list of the dynasties of Egypt with brief notes on their specific Kings and outstanding facts chronologically his Chronology.

With Egyptian High Priest access to the Ancient Egyptian Mystery School of On (Annu) historical records, in no way could Manetho be confused or mistaken except by:

- being censored or commanded by superiors,

- Jewish historian Josephus Flavius corruption of his quotes and paraphrases of Manetho’s History of Egypt,

- Greek or later Roman Catholic Church corruption of Manetho’s Chronology of dynasties and kings, and

- intentional "mistakes” which esoterically reveal the censored truth upon proper analysis and synthesis via comparative historical techniques

b. Keeping this in mind two relevant points in Manetho’s Chronology must be brought forward and are presented below.

Speaking about the 15th, 16th and 17th Dynasties of Egypt wherein from about 1700 to 1580 B.C. conventionally, esoterically 2,533 to 1580 B.C. the mysterious ‘Hyksos” Shepherd Kings controlled Egypt; Manetho clears up their identity as follows:

“{They}... consisted of Shepherd Kings. There were six foreign Kings from Phoenicia, who seized Memphis: in the Sethroite name they founded a town {Avaris on the east of the Bubastite branch of the Nile quoting Josephus Contra Apionem I, paragraph 78}"

(from Manetho, Aegyptiaca (Epitome) Fr. 43. from Syncelles/Africanus) Thus the six Phoenician cities on the Mediterranean coast of Asia Minor/Palestine/Canaan including Sidon, Tyre, Beirut, Gubla (Byblos), Sumur (Simyra) and Acco (Acre) were the leaders of a confederacy.

These six city Kings hired the surrounding Palestine/Syrian nomadic shepherd herders - Semitic (mixed white, black) peoples largely of Amurru/Retenu tribes of Hew Shasu. These shepherds clearly included the Hebrews or Khiburu shepherd nomads as mercenaries of these rich Phoenician Kings.


The corrections via monuments and comparative history result in Manetho’s stated 14 Kings, where his #13 Pharaoh belongs to the 19th Dynasty and #14 is part of the myth of Danaus and Aegyptius placed in as part of an intentional confusion to conceal the “Akhunaten is Moses” identity for esoteric identity later in time.

Specifically only 2 of the 4 Amenhotep Kings were acknowledged truthfully by the Theban Priesthood (Amenhotep I and II); Manetho’s #8 Pharaoh Orus is esotericalIy Amenhotep II (Akhunaten’s father), while Manetho’s #9 Pharaoh Achencherses is esoterically Pharaoh Amenhotep IV. This Pharaoh in question here changed his name to Akhunaten, rejecting Amen as the national god and moving to curtail the powerful but corrupt Theban Amen-Ra/Osiris Cult priests as the national theocratic leaders.

4. "… I venture now to draw the following conclusions: if Moses was an Egyptian and if he transmitted to the Jews his own religion then it was that of lkhnaton, the Aton religion.” (Sigmund Freud, Ibid., pg. 27)

“It is a strange fact in the history of the Egyptian religion, which was recognized and appraised relatively late. It is possible that the religion Moses gave to his Jewish people was yet his own, an Egyptian religion [the Ancient Egyptian Mystery School of On (Annu) “Aten Path’] though not the {more popular Theban priesthood’s Amen-Ra/Osiris cults} Egyptian religion.” (Sigmund Freud, Ibid., pg. 21)


5. We can now analyze the previously mentioned “confused’ account of Manetho’s History of Egypt from Josephus’ Contra ADionem I. 26.

It is “confused” only if we think that the Amenophis/Amenhotep mentioned is Manetho’s #14 listed Pharaoh and get caught up in a myth involving his #12 and #13 Kings putting the time span far too late to glean the truth. However we know the myth of Danaus and Aegyptius is from the 12th Dynasty, for Herodotus Book II paragraph 102 and 107 mentions this myth as occurring during the reign of Pharaoh Sesostris III. Esoterically, the Pharaoh Amenophis/Amenhotep mentioned is Pharaoh Amenhotep IV/Akhenaten or Manetho’s #9 Pharaoh Achencherses while co-regent with his father Pharaoh Amenhotep Ill.

“….Manetho now interpolates this intruding Amenophis (Amenhotep IV). This King, he states, conceived a desire to behold the gods, as Or*, as one of his predecessors on the throne had done.” (the account of Manetho’s History of Egypt from Josephus’ Contra ADionem I. 2).

*NOTE: Esoterically King or Pharaoh Or can be identified as Pharaoh Akhenaton while he was co-regent with his father Pharaoh Amenhotep III. Ironically Pharaoh Amenhotep III is Manetho’s #8 Pharaoh Orus.

“….and he communicated his desire to this namesake Amenophis, Paaphis’ son Amenhotep, son of Hapu, Minister/Master of both Amenhotep III/IV who, in virtue of his wisdom and knowledge of the future, was reputed to be a partaker in the divine nature.” (the account of Manetho’s History of Egypt from Josephus’ Contra ADionem I. 2).

Luckily George James’ classic Stolen Legacy elucidates that the “Egyptian Mystery System had as its most important object the deification of man…..{that} could enable him to become godlike and see the Gods in this life and attain the beatific vision and hold communion with the Immortals.” (George James, Stolen Legacy, pg. 27)

“{MinisterAmenhotep, son of Hapu} then, replied that he would be able to see the gods if he cleansed the whole land of lepers and other polluted persons.”

“The King was delighted and assembled all those in Egypt whose bodies were wasted by disease: they numbered 80,000 persons. These he cast into the stone-quarries to the east of the Nile, there to work segregated from the rest of the Egyptians. Among them, Manetho adds, there were some of the learned priests, who had been attacked by leprosy.’ (the account of Manetho’s History of Egypt from Josephus’ Contra Adionem

b. Quoting again from Joy Collier’s The Heretic Pharaoh, pg. 234, for clarification of Lysimachus, the Greek historian, an alternative version of this account is presented:

“The King of Egypt sent some to consult the oracle of Hammon [Amen] the gods answer was this, that he must purge his temples of impure and impious men by expelling them out of those temples . . . the sun having indignation at these men being suffered to live.’’

Thus Pharaoh Akhunaten raised the ‘Aten Path’ as the national religion again, and reinvigorating anew an Aten Path practicing national theocratic priesthood. Here Lysimachus establishes without doubt that the people to be expelled suffered in the eyes of the “establishment” of Thebes from spiritual not physical defects.

In addition Joy Collier in The Heretic Pharaoh, pg. 234 presents an alternative version of Lysimachus that identifies the Theban Sorcery Lodges and its Amen-Osiris Priesthood as the source of this spiritual leprosy for “he {Pharaoh Amenophis IV} must purge his {Amens} temples of impure and impious men {priests} by expelling them out of those {Amen} temples … the sun gods {of Annu/Heliopolis, generically Ra} having an indignation at these men {Amen priests} being suffered to live.”

This alternative Lysimachus version makes total sense via comparative history. For we know that before and after their ascendancy to national dominance via the conquests and support of Thuthmoses Ill, that the Amen Priesthood was corrupt e.g., printing blank name space copies of the Book of the Dead promising spiritual salvation and practicing sorcery e.g., spiritualism communication with the dead via séances, misuse of spiritism and exploitative use of hypnosis and mesmerism.

A clear pattern of Theban priesthood using historical censorship can be seen in its historical treatment of their arch theocratic rival the Ancient Egyptian Mystery School of On (Annu) 18th Dynasty graduates Pharaoh-Queen Hatshepsut and Pharaoh Thutmose IV. Thus it can be better appreciated that Pharaoh-Queen Hatshepsut placed Aten Path symbols of the Obelisks in the Amen Temple at Thebes and commissioned a Punt Expedition to Ta-Neter.

Thus it can be better appreciated that Pharaoh Thuthmose IV married a Mitanni princess Mutemuaaenra, esoterically an Aten Path practitioner; and he renovated the Annu Sphinx/HU Rock Sculpture and Temples at the Ancient Egyptian Mystery School of On (Annu) at the Giza Rock Plateau Complex. Consequently, as shown above Pharaoh-Queen Hatshepsut was completely left out of Manethos’ Pharaoh list; while Pharaoh Thutmose IV was placed out of order on the Kings’ Lists by the rival Amen-Osiris Priesthood to further confuse true history and their contributions to the Science of Spirituality system of the Aten Path.

Esoterically, it must be understood that Amenhotep III and his son Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV) as Aten High Priest as his co-regent, with Master Thet of the “Aten Path”Amenhotep, son of Hapu as his advisor and also the Aten Path practitioners Mitanni Queens Tiy and Nefertiti were organized and set for a “show down” with the corrupt Theban Sorcery Lodges. Its demonic practicing Amen-Osiris Priesthood suffered from a “spiritual leprosy.” Esoterically they enjoyed unprecedented power via Pharaoh Thutmose Ill’s imperialistic reign which supported the Amen-Osiris Priesthood after receiving its aid in the unnatural takeover and disposal of Pharaoh-Queen Hatshepsut.

Under Pharaoh and Aten Path Master Akhunaten as sole ruler and his Aten Path practicing Queen Nefertit, the corrupt Amen Priesthood was suppressed, and eventually a civil war broke out throughout the Egyptian Empire from Kush to Hittite. Pharaoh Akhenaten established a new capital city Akhetaten (Amarna) located between the city of Annu of the South (Heliopolis) and the Amen Priesthood headquarter and former capital city of Thebes just across from Khemannu\Hermopolis

This resulted in the Biblical Exodus lead by Pharaoh Akhenaton to Queen Nefertiti’s homeland Mitanni/Neherna/Assyria of most of Egypt’s leading “Sun People” who had been trained in the Ancient Egyptian Mystery School of On (Annu) and many imprisoned Semites if we can believe the Bible an iota on this point.


c. Thus esoterically Manetho’s #9 Pharaoh Achencherses has been identified as Pharaoh Aakhunaten\Amenhotep IV co-regent with his father Pharaoh Amenhotep Ill about 1376 - 1361, sole ruler 1361 - 1345 B.C.

Remarkably even Manetho makes Pharaoh Akhunaten and Moses contemporaries in the Eusebius variants of his Chronology: “#9 Achencherses for 16 years. About this time Moses led the Jews in their march out of Egypt.” [FR. 53a (from Syncellus) According to Eusebius]

“9 Achencherses … for 16 years; in his time Moses became the leader of the Hebrews in their exodus from Egypt.” [FR. 53b Armenian version of Eusebius]

d. Via the genius of the multi-disciplinarian merging of adept psychoanalysis applied to history, Jewish psychiatrist Sigmund Freud agrees with Manetho:

“According to our construction the Exodus from Egypt would have taken place between 1358 and 1350 B.C. - that is to say, after the ‘death’ * of lkhnaton and before the restitution of the authority of the state of Horemheb. The goal of the wandering could only be Canaan.... All conditions, internal and external, favoring the Exodus coincide only in the period immediately after the ‘death’ {disappearance} of the heretic King {lkhnaton}.” (from Sigmund Freud’s Moses and Monotheism, p.s. 32,33 and 36)

*NOTE: Pharaoh Akhenaton/lkhnaton’s "death” is conjecture, for where and when he died is still a mystery. Esoterically his destination was beyond Canaan/Syria to Mitanni/Upper Mesopotamia/Neherna/Assyria -- Queen Nefertiti and his mother Queen Tiy’s homeland, the “Nine Bow” Tribe


5. The remainder of Manetho’s commentary via Jewish historian Josephus’ is more corrupted with the following summary highlights:

i.) Amenhotep, son of Hapu commits suicide after predicting to the King that civil war would breakout and for 13 years the lepers would take over Egypt;

ii.) the lepers under an outcast priest of Osiris from Annu/Heliopolis named Osarsiph, later renamed Moses, joined forces with the Hyksos/Jews now settled in Jerusalem and took over Egypt forcing King Amenhotep to take refuge in Ethiopia; and

iii.) in due course King Amenhotep returned to Egypt defeating Moses and his Hyksos allies causing their “Exodus from Egypt.

Knowing esoterically that King Amenhotep is Akhunaten the corruption of Josephus’ Manetho accounts is irrelevant, for Moses is made his opponent. As even Sigmund Freud realized Pharaoh Akhunaten and Moses theocratically have everything in common, and were most likely peers and allies.

6. Esoterically, Manetho through all the corruption and destruction of his works juxtaposes Pharaoh Akhunaten and Moses in his Chronology and History of Egypt (via Josephus). Even though censored, he puts the truth in both via the myth of Aegyptius and Danaus. Additionally, Manetho, 300 B.C., had access to the earlier 5th century B.C. Herodotus’ History. Book II, paragraph 102 and 107 written 200 years before him correctly places this Aegyptius and Danaus myth in Dynasty 12 Pharaoh Sesostris III’s reign circa 1900 B.C. By using this device Manetho cleverly conceals via a comparative history a key for those in the future to render the truth that would escape the censorship and wrath of the all powerful and corrupt Amen-Ra/Osiris Cult Priesthood that controlled Ptolemy Egypt. It was the Pharaoh Ptolemy I or II that commissioned Manetho’s History.

Specifically, Manethos identifies the Pharaoh Armais, list #12, as Danaus as an analogy that he is a traitor to the King who entrusts him with Kingly powers. We know that Horemheb or Armais was made general of the North by Pharaoh Akhunaten in the civil war with the forces of the Amen priesthood. This civil war took place about 3 years after Akhunaten became sole ruler about 1364 B.C. This is the 13-year period that Amenhotep, Son of Hapu, identified as the period of the struggle with the lepers under Osarsiph. Esoterically then Manetho’s has via the myth of Aegyptius and Danaus identified Horemheb as Osarsiph.

For it was when Pharaoh Akhunaten's general of the North Horemheb defects to the side of the Amen Priest forces that Akhunaten chose to abdicate the Egyptian throne and “Exodus” to his Queen Nefertiti and Mother’s (Queen Tiy) homeland Mitanni/Neherna/Assyria, at the headwaters of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in Mesopotamia. Aakhunaten left behind those family members who decided to continue to struggle against the Amen priest forces. Without exception each of the Kings Smenkhkare, Tutankhamon and Ay met unnatural deaths at the hands of the Amen-Ra priest forces. Then in the chaos the non-royal birthed Horemheb became Pharaoh.
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Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 12:42 pm

Did Moses (Pharaoh Akhenaten) then become King Sargon of Assyria?

Pharaoh Akhenaten (Ikhnaton) Esoteric Identity as the Biblical Exodus Moses and King Sargon 1 of Assyria
http://theuniversityofgod.org/SoON2.3_A ... enaten.pdf
1. Above is a picture of Pharaoh Akhunaten’s Canopic chest found smashed to fragments in the Royal Tomb at the city of Akhenaton. What happened to the burials of Pharaoh Akhunaten and Queen Nefertiti? They are unlikely ever to be known?” (C. Aidred’s Akhunaten, pg. 155)

This is because neither Pharaoh Akhenaten nor Queen Neferfiti’s body as mummy or used funerary equipments have been found. Esoterically, Pharaoh Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti’s burials were simply not carried out in Egypt, for their “Exodus” to Assyria and probably were buried there.

Unbelievably, history records his presence as the King of Assyria known as Ashur --NadinAkhi reigning about 1380 - 1350 BC. -- almost identical to Akhunaten’s co-regency\regency durations of 1376- 1346. (Goodspeed, History of Babylon and Assyria, pg. 135)

Is it coincidence that contemporary Kings of Assyria and Pharaohs of Egypt have philologically the same name? Esoterically this is not coincidence but identity!

2. Esoterically Moses too is connected to Assyria through the seemingly strange similarity of his Biblical tradition with that of King Sargon of Agade (Akkad) Mesopotamia, who ruled anywhere from the 24th to the 13th century B.C.

From Madame Blavatsky’s Isis Unveiled II, pgs. 442 and 443 and Secret Doctrine I, pg. 319 footnote * comes the following information:

“On page 224 of Assyria Discoveries, Mr. George Smith says:

‘In the palace of Sennacherib {Assyrian King 705-681 B.C.) at Kouyunjik, I found another fragment of the curious history of Sargon, a translation of which I published in the Transaction of the Society of Biblical Archaeology. Vol. 1, pg. 46.’

‘This text relates that Sargon, an early Babylonian monarchy was born of royal parents, but concealed by his mother, who placed him on the Euphrates in an ark of rushes, coated with bitumen, like that in which the mother of Moses hid her child (see Exodus ii).’

‘Sargon was discovered by a man named Akki, a water-carrier {gardener}, who adopted him as his son, and he afterward became King of Babylon.’

‘The capital of Sargon, (the Babylonian Moses), was the great city of Agadi called by the Semites Akkad - mentioned in Genesis as a capital of Nimrod (Genesis: 10), and here he reigned for 45 years. Moses reigned over the people of Israel in the wilderness for more than 40 years.’

‘Akkad lay near the city of Sippara on the Euphrates and north of Babylon.’

‘Another strange coincidence is found in the fact that the name of the neighboring above-mentioned city of Sippara is the same as the name of the wife of Moses Zipporah (Exodus 2:21).’

The name of Saigon signifies the right, true or legitimate King.’

‘The date of Saigon, who may be termed the Babylonian Moses, was in the 16th century and perhaps earlier.’

‘G. Smith adds in his Chaldean Account that Sargon I was a Babylonian monarch who reigned in the city of Akkad about 1600 B.C.”

The circa 1900 translation of the three Saigon Tablet fragments by George Smith immediately uncovered the remarkable identity of Sargon’s heritage to that of the Biblical Moses. Yet a more modern translation of the fragments shows that Sargon’s heritage is connected to the Annu Egyptian Aten Path and gardening life style.

* From G. Smith’s translations of lines 1-3 as found in Madame Bavatsky (Ibid.), circa 1900:

Then the Sargon Tablet relates the extent of Sargon’s Kingdom of rule over the "black-headed people” to the Amanus Mountains in the west, to the Zagros Mountains in the east, to the Taurus Mountains to the north and the Persian Gulf to the south.

3. Esoterically, “Akkad/Agadi” is the name of the region of Mesopotamia. During primaeval times it was inhabited by the “black-headed people”, also called the Akkadians/Sabaean/Mithannu; the mixed Dravidian and Black Annu were ancestors of the Moors and Arabs, the Bible’s Ishmaelites and Midianites.

NOTE: Conventionally, the White-Greek/Scythian “Sumerians are considered to be the “Black-Headed People,” who are given the achievement of civilizing Mesopotamia. Thus Sargon of Akkad is misconstrued as a Semitic conqueror of the Sumerians and thus assigned to the 24th Century B.C.

It is no coincidence that the capital of Akkad (Agadi) was the city of Sippara, which was the center of “sun worship” and “Aten Path” light and sound yoga mystery school was located there. Akkad was not a city but a primeval country.

“At Sippara, the worship of the sun-god {San or Sansi} was so prominent, that Abydenus, probably following Berosus, called the town Heliopolis (Greek for the Egyptian word “Annu’) (Abyden, Fr. I Syncellus, Vol 1, pg. 70)” (from George Rawlinson, Seven Great Monarchies, Vol. 1 pg. 83.)

Thus no coincidence could explain that Moses’ wife Zipporah, has a name philologically identical to Sippara; and that Sippara is geographically located on the bank of the Euphrates north of Babylon in Assyria\Accad. Thus the city of Sargon’s birth “Azupirana” (line.3 of the Sargon Tablet) is esoterically analogous to Sippara\Zipporah

There is no coincidence that the “Aten Path” practicing people of Sippara, the Sepharvites are akin to the “missing” 10 tribes of Israel who were “carried off’ by the Assyrians from Samaria during the 8th and 9th century’s B.C. The Sephardite Jews of today bear this heritage and “birthright” Cain(aan)’s people.

“There can be little doubt that the Adrammaelech, or ‘Fire-King’ whose worship the Sepharvites (or people of Sippara) introduced into Samaria (2 Kings xvii 31), was this deity {of the Sun God San/Sansi}.” (from G. Rawlinson, Ibid., v.i, pg. 83) C. The “Aten Path” Practice in Mesopotamia (Neherna)

1. Mithannu (Mitannu) of Northern Mesopotamia was a key Annu Egyptian “Nine Bow” country whose name philologically shows its allegiance to the Annu “Aten Path”:

It is no coincidence that the Sargon Tablet (line 11) relates that Sargon was granted ‘love” by the Sun Goddess Ishtar for Ishtar was the Assyrian synonym of the Mitannu Sun Goddess Mithra, they both corresponding to the Annu Egyptian Sun Goddess Het Heru, the personification of the Inner Light and Sound Current. See Exhibit II_B-2_3 and
The enitum {anutum} was originally the bride of the god for whom the King or chief-priest officiated in the fertility rites of the “sacred marriage.” (from John Gray, Op. Cit. pg. 55)

2. Consequently, it is not surprising to find a cloud of mystery and confusion surrounding the Sun God\Goddess Mithras\Mithra and the people of Mithannu. However, the identification of the below illustrated “Northern Mesopotamia” clay cylinder seal as an artifact of the Mithannu people is very clarifying and informative.

Esoterically, note the following interpretations of this Mithannu Clay Cylinder Seal:

a. It is a representation of the Mithannu King and his astral double standing before the "Tree of Life” the inner lighted sound stream called Sun Goddess Mithra; which leads 8 planes globes up to the Most High God Annu\Varuna.

b. The winged disc above the Tree of Life’ Sun Goddess Mithra is Sun God Mithras of the first spiritual plane.

Behind the King in the lower register is a representation of the Kings spiritual body facing the Leopard/Lion guard into the heavens.

d. Behind the King in the middle register is a representation of the King having successfully merged into the Leopard\Lion gaining entrance into the heavens symbolized as the sphinx.

e. Behind the King in the upper register is a representation of 4 Atens or Suns from the physical plane (Ra) to the 3rd plane spiritually; the King as gained access to the 3rd spiritual plane.

f. The King’s astral double Fs holding the hand of a protective genie.

g. The ethnicity of the King is clearly “Negroid” specifically being mixed blood India Dravidian and Black Annu ancestors of the Bible lshmaelites and Moorish Arabs, esoterically the Biblical Midians.

Thus the Mithannu King and by inference the best of its people embraced the Ancient Egyptian Mystery School of On (Annu) spiritually system of the “Path of the Aten" holding in common the “Tree of Life” Sun Goddess (inner lighted sound current), the winged Aten disc of the Sun God first plane Mithras, the conceptualization of the struggle to leave the ‘body tomb” and the sphinx symbolism of the gaining access to the 3rd spiritual plane, the minimal ideal achievement of the King.

It is conventionally admitted that the Mithannu cylinder seals influenced the art of its long time regional state Assyria. “Mitannian cylinder seals have certain motifs such as the stylized ‘sacred tree’ {of life} which survived in the imagery of later Assyrian ornament.”

Esoterically, this indicates that the religious, culture and spirituality practice of the Mithannu of the outer and inner sun worship of the “Aten Path” yoga was also that of the Assyrians. This became especially so when Mithannu was destroyed and Egyptian Pharaoh Akhunaten “exoduses” to Assyria. . a region of and successor and champion of the “Aten Path” of Mithannu.

The above illustration of an Assyrian clay cylinder seal clearly shows the influence of the parent nation of Mithannu on its regional successor nation Assyria. Comparing it with the previously illustrated Mithannu cylinder seal finds the sharing of the winged disc, tree of life with 8 levels, and protective genei behind the King. A more humanized winged disc represents the Sun God Ashur\Asur; analogous to the Egyptian Sun God Asar\Mithannu Sun God Mithras of the first spiritual plane.

3. Madame Blavatsky mistakenly believes that Jewish High Priest Ezra, (who translated Moses’ "Pentateuch" from the hieroglyphic to Hebrew after the Jew’s Babylonian captivity) simple fabricated the Bibles ‘Pentateuch” and its author Moses from old Babylonian documents.

Esoterically, knowing Moses was a historical personage; and as Egyptian Pharaoh Akhunaten; as an “Aten Path” Adept was fully equipped to write Genesis.” The remaining “Pentateuch” is clearly heavily corrupted; but even “Exodus” as an actual event, holds the truth of Akhunaten’s struggle and Midian/Mittanite connection.

4. By the mistaken interpretation of the Sargon Tablet that Sargon of Akkad (Agadi) conquered the Sumerians (see page 87, footnote A); he is dated at the 24th century but C.A. Diop in African Origin of Civilization identifies this as the conspiracy of Assyriologists to falsely push back to the dates of Mesopotamia to try to synchronize with the much greater antiquity of Egypt and the Nile Valley. Thus, Sargon could be date to Pharaoh Akhunaten’s 14th century B.C.

5. Clearly if Pharaoh Akhunaten would “Exodus” anywhere it would be to Egypt’s ally, Mitanni/Neherna/Assyria which was an enemy of the Hyksos. This is plainly stated by Manetho’s {Josephus, Contra Apionem I. 14 paragraph 77}:

“Above all, {Hyksos King Salitis} fortified the district to the east {of Egypt}, foreseeing that the Assyrians, as they grew stronger, would one day covet and attack his Kingdom’… ethnic home of Akhunaten’s wife Nefertiti, mother Tiy, grandmother Mutemuaa(ra), and great-grandmother Tiy.

6. Again Sigmund Freud in “Moses and Monotheism” is astounding by identifying that the Bible contains two Moses figures, the first of the “Exodus” and the second much later one of the wars in Canaan, The first was Pharaoh Akhunaten/Sargon I; the second was a Semitic warrior priest of Jehovah. The first was a priest of the Aten/Atuma/Adonis cult never evoking the God Jehovah until made to do so via Jethro the Midian priest yielding his transformation to Moses #2. Moses #1 lived circa 1350 B.C.; Moses #2 lived circa 1200 B.C.

1. The possibility of Mitanni/Assyria as Pharaoh Akhunaten’s Exodus destination is supported by the following references from the “Tel-el Amarna letters” found in Akhunaten’s new city, Akhutaten (Amarna):

a. King Tushratta of Mitanni, contemporaneous with Pharaoh Amenhotep III and Pharaoh Akhunaten had possession of Nineveh, Assyria’s Goddess lshtar’s (Astarte, analogous to the Egyptian’s Ast, first plane Sun Goddess) statue and sent it to Egypt during Pharaoh Amenhotep III’s reign. This indicates Assyria was then under Mitanni control (Egypt’s major ally) and Assyria, Mitanni and Egypt shared very analogous “Aten Path” religions.

“The image of Ishtar, Goddess of Nineveh {Assyria}, had fallen during this time into the hands of the King of Mitanni, who sent it to Egypt (Winckler, Tel-el-Amarna letters, 20).” (from Goodspeed, A History of Babylon and Assyria pg. 133)

A tablet (Kri #23) in the British Museum from Tushratta of Mitanni to Amenophis Ill announcing that the Goddess Ishtar of Nirieveh has been sent on a visit to Egypt. A docket written in hieratic by the Egyptian filing clerk gives the date the original was received at Thebes in year 36 and indicates that this was a copy.” (from C. Aldred, Aakhunaten, plate 116)

Year 36 of Amenhotep Ill coincide with co-regent year 8 of Akhenaten then residing in Akhetaten\Amarna where this letter was found.

b. Of the Temples of Aten Pharaoh Akhenaten built, one is known in Asia.

“He (Akhenaten) also built a temple to Aten in Syria, which is mentioned on one of the Tall al-Amarnah tablets in the British Museum * under the form Hi-na-tuna”

(* Footnote: Babylon Room, Table-Case F. No. 72 (29855) (from W. Budge’s Tutankhamon, pgs. 89 and 91)

c. But the rendering of Hi-na-tu-na from the cuneiform script and locating it in Syria is incorrect; correctly it was the city of Arbela based on the philologic analysis based on Mercers Assyrian Grammar presented below.

d. Arbela was a city of Assyria corresponding to the modern city of Irbil in Iraq; in ancient times just 40 miles east of the city of Nineveh between the Greater and Lesser Zab River tributaries of the Tigris River in Mesopotamia. Arbela like Nineveh had the patron Goddess Ishtar, and thus would have been supportive of Akhenaten’s “Aten Path.’ See H. Frankfort, Kingship and the Gods on Arbela.

Assyria was a part of Mitanni originally, which stretched all the way to the Zargos Mountains in Iran to the Mediterranean Sea. Mitaani disintegrated as a result of the Egyptian Civil War, assassination of the Mitanni King Tushratti and the resulting Pharaoh Akhenaten’s Exodus there. Arbela was next to Media, a district of Assyria.

Thus Arbela in Assyria was most likely the location of Pharaoh Akhenaten’s Asian Aten Temple as cited by Tel-el-Amarna Letter #72. Also it is more than likely that Assyria just outside the city of Nineveh, from which the Goddess Ishtar visited Egypt, as cited by Tel-el-Armana Letter #23, was the Egyptian allied country that received the Exodus entourage of abdicated Pharaoh Akhenaten.

He became the new Assyrian King Ashur-Nadin-Akhi; his mother (Tiy), wife (Nefertiti), followers of the Egyptian “Sun People” Aakhu-Hammemet and Hebrew/Khabiri slaves.

Esoterically, the “missing” 10 Tribes of Israel who were taken to Babylon and Assyria according to the Bible were never missing but disassociated from their true identity as the 12 Tribes of lshmael later known as the Arabian Moors.

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Unread post by kevin » Sat May 07, 2011 1:07 pm

Lizzie,
As ever fabulous series of posts, just to bring things sort of into the here and now,
Sigmund freud.
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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 2:16 pm

You do as I do; it’s all voo-doo by the-you-know-who-dos who create the deep doo-doo; so let’s cha cha cha!

The Committee of 300
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... 300_03.htm
Profiling is a technique developed in 1922 on command of the Royal Institute for International Affairs (RIIA). Major John Rawlings Reese, a British Army technician, was instructed to set up the largest brainwashing facility in the world at the Tavistock Institute for Human Relations as a part of Sussex University.

This became the core of Britain’s Psychological Warfare Bureau. When I first introduced the names of Reese and Tavistock into the United States in 1970, very little interest was shown. But over the years, as I revealed more and more about Tavistock and its vital role in the conspiracy, it has become popular to imitate my earlier research.

Britain’s Psychological Warfare Bureau made extensive use of the work done by Reese on his 80,000 British Army guinea pigs, captive soldiers who underwent many forms of testing. It was Tavistock-designed methods that got the United States into the Second World War and which, under the guidance of Dr. Kurt Lewin, established the OSS, the forerunner of the CIA.

Lewin became the director of the Strategic Bombing Survey, which was a plan for the Royal Air Force to concentrate on bombing German worker housing while leaving military tar-gets, such as munition plants, alone. The munition plants on both sides belonged to the international bankers who had no wish to see their assets destroyed.

Later, after the war was over, NATO ordered Sussex University to establish a very special brainwashing center which became part of Britain’s Psychological Warfare Bureau, only now, its research was directed toward civilian rather than military applications. We shall return to that super secret unit which was called Science Policy Research Institute (SPRI) under our chapters on drugs.

The idea behind saturation bombing of civilian worker housing was to break the morale of the German worker. It was not designed to affect the war effort against the German military machine. Lewin and his team of actuaries reached a target figure, that if 65% of German worker housing was destroyed by nightly RAF bombing, the morale of the civilian population would collapse. The actual document was prepared by the Prudential Assurance Company.

The RAF, under the command of “Bomber” Harris, carried out Lewin’s plans, culminating in the terror firestorm bombing of Dresden, in which over 125,000, mainly old men, women and children, were killed. The truth of “Bomber” Harris’s horror raids on German civilians was a well kept secret until long after the end of WW II.

Tavistock provided most of the detailed programs that led to he establishing of the Office of Naval Intelligence, (ONI) the number one intelligence service in the United States, one which wharfs the CIA in size and scope.

Contracts worth billions of dollars were given to Tavistock by the United States Government and Tavistock’s strategic planners provide most of what the Pentagon uses for our defense establishment, even today. Here again is illustrated the grip the Committee of 300 has on the United States, and the majority of our institutions. Tavistock runs over 30 research institutions in the United States, all of which we will name in our charts at the end of the book.

These Tavistock-U.S. institutions have in many cases grown into gargantuan monsters, penetrating every aspect of our government agencies and taking command of all policy making. One of Tavistock’s chief wreckers of our way of life was Dr. Alexander King, a founder member of NATO and a favorite with the Committee of 300, as well as an outstanding member of the Club of Rome.

Dr. King was assigned by the Club of Rome to destroy America’s education by taking control of the National Teachers Association and working in close conjunction with certain law makers and judges. If it was not generally known how all-pervading is the influence of the Committee of 300, this book should dispel every vestige of that doubt.

The trial run for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) a Club of Rome creation came in a test run against the nuclear power station at Three Mile Island, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Termed “an accident” by the hysterical media, this was not an accident but a deliberately designed crisis test for FEMA. An additional benefit was the fear and hysteria created by the news media which had people fleeing the area when in fact they were never in any danger.

It was considered a success by FEMA and it scored a lot of points for the anti-nuclear forces. TMI became the rallying point for the so-called “environmentalists,” a highly financed and controlled group run out of Aspen Institute on behalf of the Club of Rome. Coverage was provided free of charge by William Paley of CBS television, a former British intelligence agent.

FEMA is a natural successor to the Strategic Bombing Survey of WW II. Dr. Kurt Lewin, theoretician for what the Tavistock conspirators called crisis management, was deeply involved in the study. There is an unbroken chain between Lewin and Tavistock that stretches back for thirty-seven years. Lewin incorporated the Strategic Bombing Survey into FEMA, with only a few small adjustments proving necessary, one of the changes being the target, WHICH WAS NO LONGER GERMANY BUT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Forty-five years after the end of WW II it is still Tavistock that has its hands on the trigger, and the weapon is pointed at the United States.

The late Margaret Mead conducted an intensive study of the German and Japanese population, under the aegis of Tavistock, on how they reacted to stress caused by aerial bombardment. Irving Janus was an associate professor on the project which was supervised by Dr. John Rawlings Reese, promoted to Brigadier-General in the British Army.

The test results were given to FEMA. The Irving Janus report was of great value in formulating FEMA policies. Janus used it in a book which he later wrote entitled AIR WAR AND STRESS. The ideas in his book were followed TO THE LETTER BY FEMA DURING THE THREE MILE ISLAND “CRISIS.” Janus had a really simple idea: Simulate a succession of crises and manipulate the population following the Lewin terror tactics and they will do exactly as required.

In carrying out this exercise, Lewin discovered something new, that social control on a wide scale can be achieved by using the news media to bring home the horrors of a nuclear war via the television media. It was discovered that women’s magazines were very effective in dramatizing the terrors of a nuclear war. A trial run conducted by Janus had Betty Bumpers, wife of Senator Dale Bumpers of Arkansas, “writing” for McCalls magazine on that subject.

The article appeared in McCalls January 1983 issue. Actually, Mrs. Bumpers did not write the article, it was created for her by a group of writers at Tavistock whose specialty such subject matters are. It was a collection of untruths, non-facts, innuendoes and conjectures based entirely upon false premises. The Bumpers article was typical of the kind of psychological manipulation at which Tavistock is so very good. Not one of the ladies who read McCalls could have failed to be impressed by the terror-horror story of what a nuclear war looks like.

The Committee of 300 has a major bureaucracy at its disposal made up of hundreds of think tanks and front organizations that run the whole gamut of private business and government leaders. I will mention as many as I can fit in, starting with the German Marshall Fund.

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 3:27 pm

Who were the "Sons of Belial" and the "Sons of the Law of One"?

The Atlantian Sons Explained
http://thesonsofthelawofone.org/atlantiansons.html
Over time, with the advent of civilization and technology, the divisions between the Adamic and pre-Adamic races became increasingly more apparent. Whereas the Adamic race held on to the belief in the one God who had specially created them, the pre-Adamic race refuted the belief in the existence of God, instead focusing on the acquisition of wealth and power - worshipping the creature rather than the Creator.

As these differences became more and more clear, the world came to be divided into two basic divisions: the Sons of the Law of One, those who held to the belief in the one God as the Creator of the universe and of mankind, and the Sons of Belial, those who denied the existence of God and instead worshipped themselves.

Cayce explained it thus: "In Atlantean land during those periods of early rise of sons of Belial as oppositions that became more and more materialized as the powers were applied for self-aggrandizement." This "self-aggrandizement" took the form of the accumulation of wealth and power into the hands of a very few, with the result being extreme social stratification, where perhaps only a few dozens or hundreds of beings ruled over millions of slaves. This situation, of course, was unacceptable to the Sons of the Law of One.

The Atlanteans, both the Sons of the Law of One and the children of Belial, had developed a high technology using crystals and solar energy that they used to create electrical power for lighting, heating, travel, and related needs. The sons of Belial, however, broke ranks with the Sons of the Law of One and attempted to use that technology as a weapon. According to Cayce, the children of Belial had actually developed that technology to the point where they were able not only to harness the power of the Sun, but of the volcanic forces of the earth itself.

The children of Belial attempted to harness the volcanic forces of the Earth in order to defeat the power of the Sons of the Law of One, and enslave mankind, but they instead brought great destruction to the island of Atlantis. As a result of their arrogance, they released forces that they were unable to completely control, and the resulting release of volcanic energy resulted in the division of the island of Atlantis into several lesser islands, with a substantial portion of the island falling into the sea.

A topographical map of the Azores, a chain of islands in the central Atlantic, in the same location Cayce had placed the main island of Atlantis that remained after the first destruction, which he referred to as "Poseidia". Note the topography is much higher than the surrounding ocean floor, much more closely resembles above-ground areas on the Earth. Theorists believe that volcanic pressures under the mid-Atlantic ridge were greatly reduced as a result of Atlanteans tapping into their energies, resulting in the entire island sinking beneath the waves.

In fact, for all intents and purposes, Atlantis at its peak was probably nearly indistinguishable from the America of the present day, including the social and cultural divisions we are currently experiencing with the rise of immorality. "The Atlanteans were becoming decadent, or being broken up owing to the disputes between the children of the Law of One and the children of Belial." However, as it is today, technology invariably finds its way into military uses, and the children of Belial, having forgotten the lessons of the past, again began experimenting with forbidden technologies from the "nightside of life

More than half of Cayce's life readings concerning Atlantis cover this period of Atlantis' history, a period that covers approximately 10,500-9500 b.c., near the end of which time the final destruction of Atlantis and the Great Flood of Noah occurred. Cayce believed that he had an incarnation during this period in the form of an Egyptian priest named Ra-Ta, who was renowned for his ability to communicate with the Atlanteans who had invaded the land of Egypt in force after the final destruction of their homeland.

And, as we shall see, once again the warring factions of the Sons of the Law of One and the children of Belial continued on during the Egyptian sojourn. A thousand years or more before the final destruction of Atlantis, which did not occur until somewhere between 10,500 and 9500 b.c., many of the Law of One had emigrated away from Poseidia and the other islands of Atlantis wherein they had dwelt for so many thousands of years. They traveled to many places including North America in that portion that is now the desert southwest, Central America in the area of the Yucatan, South America to the area around Peru and Europe around the Pyrenees area of Spain and France. However, by far the largest single contingent of Atlantean refugees came to North Africa, particularly to the area now known as Egypt.

The Egyptian sojourn was somewhat different for the Sons of the Law of One than their experiences in battling the forces of darkness on their home island of Poseidia. As the last remnants of Poseidia and the rest of the islands of Atlantis began to slip beneath the waves as a result of the children of Belial's unceasing warfare, more and more of the Law of One decided that they would best be able to serve mankind from other, more stable locations around the Earth. However Egypt, though it was geo-physically stable, was undergoing a sociopolitical earthquake.

Edgar Evans Cayce explains the situation in Egypt around the time of the final destruction: From between 10,000 and 11,000 b.c. a tribe from the Carpathian region invaded and conquered Egypt. One of the leaders of this tribe was a priest named Ra-Ta. Ra-Ta was Edgar Cayce (or Edgar Cayce was Ra-Ta, depending upon your point of view). In Egypt Ra-Ta's religious teachings attracted a large following. However, there was already political friction in Egypt and tension between the ruling classes and the native Egyptians.

Ra-Ta was caught up in this political intrigue, and after a native rebellion, he was banished for nine years to what is now Abyssinia. At the height of the confusion refugees began arriving in Egypt from Atlantis. The Atlanteans, scientifically more advanced than the Egyptians, found little in common with the inhabitants of Egypt, and began to set up their old way of life. Leaders of the ruling class and leaders of the native rebellion soon realized that these incoming Atlanteans with their superior scientific knowledge and radically different social and religious views posed a new threat.

A leader had to be found, around whom the people could rally, to turn the power of the Atlanteans into constructive channels. In an effort to bring some order out of the chaos the leaders in power decided to recall the priest from banishment. Only he might correlate the activities of all these conflicting groups. This move was successful and with the cooperation of the rulers of Egypt, the priest, the Atlanteans and the natives there ensued a period of great advancement in human relations. The then civilized portions of the world enjoyed a period of moral, mental, spiritual and physical development.

Though the wording here seems benign enough, the actual meaning of this statement is that the Egyptians were brainwashed into accepting Atlantean rule using coercive psychotherapy combined with drugs. Even worse, those subjects who refused to accept the new order had their brains surgically altered. In other words, they were lobotomized, their free will physically taken from them. In their desire for order, the Atlantean balance between the Sons of the Law of One and the children of Belial again fell towards totalitarianism and, even though their intentions may have been noble, they began to treat other races as slaves once more. This tendency became more and more pronounced until they began to develop mechanical means of controlling, even enslaving, large masses of people at once.

Edgar Evans Cayce explains, "With the use of chemical brain control agents it may be possible to control the individual and the masses and to do this unobtrusively and without the active cooperation of the victims ... the following extract sounds as if a similar technique was used in Atlantis:

So, even as their home islands of Atlantis were sinking beneath the waves, the sons of Belial were still trying to use every means necessary to conquer and enslave the world. The innocuous sounding "electrical and mechanical appliances" actually indicates an extremely sinister agenda on the part of the sons of Belial: to turn everyone on earth into remote-controlled slaves, even from birth — shades of The Matrix!

Edgar Evans Cayce, writing his commentary on these visions in 1968, was surprisingly cogent in his assessment of the sinister implications contained in these statements: Some day tiny radios placed in the brain may make possible the enslavement of entire nations. Such equipment might be used to equip a child with a socket mounted under the scalp from which electrodes extended to selected areas of the brain. Later a miniature radio receiver and antenna could be plugged into the socket. Schafer says, "From that time on, the child's sensory perceptions and muscular activity could be either modified or completely controlled by bio-electric signals radiated from state-controlled transmitters.

The "once human being" would be the cheapest of machines to create and operate. This statement sounds chillingly similar to what Morpheus said in The Matrix when explaining to Neo how mankind had become enslaved: "What is the 'Matrix'? Control. The Matrix is a computer-generated dream-world built to keep us under control, in order to change the human being into this:" and Morpheus holds up a battery. In the movie, mankind had been fitted with sockets in the base of their brains, and all over their bodies, and plugged in to an extremely complex virtual reality program in order to keep them in a constant world of dreams, while their bodies were used as a source of heat and energy. In the world of The Matrix, humanity had been reduced to mere machines.

In retrospect, it appears that the children of Belial had, in a desperate attempt to finally wipe out the power of the Sons of the Law of One, chose a scorched earth — or in this case, a "drowned earth" — policy, where they once again tapped volcanic forces in an attempt to wipe out all of their enemies in one swift stroke.

This is where Plato's account of the final destruction of Atlantis begins to converge with that of Cayce: the children of Belial apparently decided that they wanted either to control the entire world, or go down in glorious defeat, taking as many with them into the Abyss as possible. There was no compromise, no attempts to improve mankind — in their minds, all other races were chattel to be used as cattle, and not even the powerful Sons of the Law of One were going to keep them from their mad quest for dominion. As a result, they launched a final campaign on Europe to crush the last resistance to their rule, which, according to Plato had fallen to the Athenians. Had the Athenians failed, and had God not intervened with The Flood, the end result of this conquest would have been the enslavement of the entire human race, in a manner chillingly similar to that described in The Matrix. Having failed in their attempt to defeat the Athenian armies conventionally, the children of Belial turned once again to "the terrible mighty crystal" to annihilate the very ground on which the Athenians stood.

Focusing the mighty power of the crystal into the bowels of the Earth, the children of Belial succeeded in doing just that, sinking in the entire region that is now known as the Mediterranean basin into the depths of the sea along with the Athenians who had opposed them. However, the same process that destroyed the Athenian homelands also annihilated the remaining islands of Atlantis in a spectacular suicidal coup d'etat. As Solon had put it, "But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea."

It is in this context, then, that of a global "war to end all wars", that Noah was commanded to build an ark, to save himself and those precious few others of the Law of One whose genetic structures had not been corrupted by intermarriage with the children of Belial. These 8 brave souls, along with the numerous animals that were also saved in the ark, rode out the massive Flood that either accompanied or was outright caused by the disasters the children of Belial brought upon themselves in their quest to enslave the world.

However, though the Bible says that the ancient world was corrupted by the giants and their constant warfare, it is clear that God himself had a hand in the destruction of the antediluvian world, as evidenced by the forty days and forty nights of rain, and the opening up of the "fountains" of the earth. Some believe that the disaster was actually caused by a polar shift due to the excessive amount of ice at the poles, which had made Earth top (and bottom) heavy, predisposing the crust to shift in order to compensate.

Another possibility is that the antediluvian world was destroyed by a series of comet and/or meteor strikes that destroyed various land areas, and drowned many others with huge tidal waves and precipitation from the comets' melting ice. Most likely it was a combination of two or more of these, but the information we have currently available.


Unified Field & the Law of One
http://hiddenlighthouse.wordpress.com/c ... aw-of-one/
By 17,500 BC, two opposing ideologies had developed on the continent of Atlantis – the Law of One, which was based on the island of Poseida, and the Sons of Belial, which was based on the island of Aryan.

The Law of One was a group of highly disciplined and evolved priests who vibrated at 12th dimensional frequencies. They were a spiritual people who understood the need for combining scientific law with etheric Spirit in order to create a Unified Field.

The members of this priesthood sustained telepathic contact with advanced beings from the Arcturius, Andromeda, Sirius and Pleiades star systems. They maintained the highest standards of spiritual awareness. And they remained close to God.

But the Sons of Belial had grown to become a corrupt aristocracy that sought to block the Law of One and use the Atlantean technologies to control the rest of the world. They sought this through the use of Crystalline energies for weaponry and through genetic science for the development of an inferior race to serve as workers and soldiers. They had no regard for the Unified Field.

In the skies above Atlantis, there was a great Crystalline satellite, which received, amplified, refined, and then reflected Crystalline energy for various beneficial purposes. Because only the Law of One possessed the expertise to operate this satellite, a world-wide conflict began.

After centuries of war, a law was then passed that brought the genetic science under federal control. In return, the entire Crystalline system was brought under the control of a governmental agency that was run by both the Poseidans and the Aryans.

But, unbeknownst to the Law of One, one of their own leaders had risen from within the Sons of Belial. So, under the new law, the use of the Crystal power complex and grids had come under the control of the Sons of Belial. They soon learned to reprogram the satellite as a strategic defense weapon, which they used against the peaceful continent of Lemuria.

Over time, the satellite began to overload, weakening the anti-gravity field that kept it afloat. So the Law of One secretly relocated the Crystals to various locations around the world where they were placed in a dimensional lock. Three of these Crystals were hidden in what is now the state of Arkansas in the US. The attributes of these three Crystals alone are capable of bending the Space-Time continuum.When the satellite overloaded, it crashed with the power of a massive comet and shattered into billions of fragmented Crystalline shards, which now fill the deep trenches of the Atlantic Ocean. Within minutes, the remaining Crystal power stations exploded with the strength of a multitude of nuclear bombs.

In Atlantis, man had advanced to a remarkable degree of control and understanding of the third-dimensional environment, and was at a point in which he could have led the Earth and all of its inhabitants into a fourth-dimensional experience of physical and spiritual growth. But, after epochs of living in harmony and Light, a field of electro-magnetic energy is all that remains of this continent. This field exists today in an area of the Atlantic Ocean known as the Bermuda Triangle.
James Cameron Conspiracy Theory
http://www.whale.to/b/cameron5.html
Thought to be legend by those outside Freemasonry, Atlantis was an island continent located in the Atlantic Ocean.

Eventually, Atlantis formed a government and founded ten separate republics. During its history, a disagreement over how Atlantis was going to be managed had split the Atlanteans into two factions, the Sons of Belial, whose genetic ancestors had come from Sirius and the Law of One, who's genetic ancestors had come from Orion. The disagreement evolved into a civil war which led to the suppression of the Law of One, which emphasized spiritual existence, and the creation of a dictatorship by the Sons of Belial which emphasized materialism.

The continuing materialism of the Sons of Belial led to the creation of changes in the Earth's climate, via pollution and waste of resources which caused the sinking of the Atlantean continent. This sinking was described in many ancient texts including the book of "Genesis" in the Bible as the "Great Flood".

The story about "Noah" in "Genesis" describes how GOD had instructed him to build an ark to preserve the biogenetic diversity of Atlantis by gathering all the animals of his known world by twos and take them to other parts of the Earth.

As Freemasonry evolved into the 1700's, a bitter dispute split Freemasonry into two factions, a revived Sons of Belial (also known as the Illuminati) and the Law of One. Both sides would work toward one goal, the recreation of Atlantis.

With the help of several of their members from both sides, including George Washington of the American Masons and Adam Weishaupt of the Bavarian Illuminati, they created the United States of America in 1776. Since then, both factions have two versions of the same goal. The Sons of Belial faction wants to enslave the human race in a "New World Order" while the Law of One Faction wants to create a "Pax Humana" or Human Peace.

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 3:54 pm

Were the Kabiru (Habiru) the Sons of Belial -- Atlantean Black Magicians who worshiped the Atlantean fire gods? Are the Kabiru the Nephalim -- the mighty men of renown?

The Kabiri
http://www.wisdomworld.org/additional/L ... abiri.html
The Kabiri or the Kabirim [the name is Phoenician] were Deities and very mysterious gods with the ancient nations, including the Israelites, and were held in the highest veneration at Thebes, in Lemnos, Phrygia, Macedonia, and especially at Samothrace. They were mystery gods, no profane having the right to name or speak of them. Herodotus makes of them Fire-gods and points to Vulcan as their father. The Kabiri presided over the Mysteries, and their real number has never been revealed, their occult meaning being very sacred.

The Kabiri were also Assyrian gods. In Hebrew the name means "the mighty ones," Gibborim. In Samothrace, an island famous and renowned for its Mysteries all over the world -- perhaps the oldest ever established in our present race -- they were the Samothraces. The latter are considered identical with the Kabiri, Dioscuri and Corybantes. The names of the Samothraces were mystical, denoting Pluto, Ceres or Proserpine, Bacchus and Æsculapius, or Hermes. At one time all the deities connected with fire, whether they were divine, infernal or volcanic, were called Kabirian. With the Christians, however, they are now devils, although the modern Archangels are the direct transformation of these same Kabiri.

Those who know anything of the Samothracian mysteries will remember that the generic name of the Kabiri was the "Holy Fires," which created on seven localities of the island of Electria (or Samothrace) the "Kabir born of the Holy Lemnos" (the island sacred to Vulcan). According to Pindar, this Kabir, whose name was Adamas, was, in the traditions of Lemnos, the type of the primitive man born from the bosom of the Earth. He was the archetype of the first males in the order of generation, and was one of the seven autochthonous ancestors or progenitors of mankind.

If one studies comparative Theogony, it is easy to find that the secret of these "Fires" was taught in the Mysteries of every ancient people, pre-eminently in Samothrace. There is not the smallest doubt that the Kabiri, the most arcane of all the ancient deities, gods and men, great deities and Titans, are identical with the Kumaras and Rudras headed by Kartikeya [Mars, personifying the powers of the LOGOS] -- a Kumara also. This is quite evident even exoterically; and these Hindu deities were, like the Kabiri, the personified sacred Fires of the most occult powers of Nature. The several branches of the Aryan Race, the Asiatic and the European, the Hindu and the Greek, did their best to conceal their true nature, if not their importance. As in the case of the Kumaras, the number of the Kabiri is uncertain. Some say that they were three or four only; others say seven.

Thus, while in Samothrace and the oldest Egyptian temples they were the great Cosmic Gods (the seven and the forty-nine Sacred Fires), in the Grecian fanes their rites became mostly phallic, therefore to the profane, obscene. In the latter case they were three and four, or seven -- the male and female principles -- (the crux ansata), this division showing why some classical writers held that they were only 3, while others named 4.

The Kabirim, the "mighty ones," are identical with our primeval Dhyan-Chohans, with the incorporeal and corporeal Pitris, and with all the rulers and instructors of the primeval races, which are referred to as the Gods and Kings of the divine Dynasties.

These Beings appear first as "gods" and Creators; then they merge in nascent man, to finally emerge as "divine-Kings and Rulers." But this fact has been gradually forgotten.

As to the Jewish Noah, no Occultist would ever think of dispossessing him of his prerogatives, if he is claimed to be an Atlantean for this would simply show that the Israelites repeated the story of Vaivasvata-Manu, Xisuthrus. Moreover, if Noah was an Atlantean, then he was a Titan, a giant, as Faber shows; and if a giant, then why is he not shown as such in Genesis?

Neither the Chaldean nor the Biblical deluge (the stories of the Babylonian Xisuthrus and Noah) is based on the universal or even on the Atlantean deluges, recorded in the Indian allegory of Vaivasvata-Manu. They are all the exoteric allegories based on the esoteric mysteries of Samothrace.

Noah, is either a myth along with the others or one whose legend was built upon the Kabirian or Titanic tradition, as taught in Samothrace. He has, therefore, no claim to be monopolised by either Jew or Christian. If, as Faber tried to demonstrate, Noah is an Atlantean, and a Titan, and his family are Kabiri or pious Titans, then biblical chronology falls by its own weight, and along with it all the patriarchs -- the antediluvian and pre-Atlantean Titans.
As now discovered and proven, Cain is Mars, the god of power and generation. Tubal-Cain is a Kabir, "an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron"; or, if this will please better, he is one with Hephaestos or Vulcan -- Vul-cain, the greatest god also with the later Egyptians, and the greatest Kabir.

The god of time was Chium in Egypt, or Saturn, or Seth, and Chium is the same as Cain. Jabal is taken from the Kabiri -- instructors in agriculture, "such as have cattle," and Jubal is "the father of those who handle the harp," he, or they who fabricated the harp for Kronos and the trident for Poseidon.

The history or "fables" about the mysterious Telchines, fables echoing each and all the archaic events of our esoteric teachings, furnish us with a key to the origin of Cain's genealogy; they give the reason why the Roman Catholic Church identifies "the accursed blood" of Cain and Ham with Sorcery, and makes it responsible for the Deluge.

Were not the Telchines, it is argued, the mysterious iron-workers of Rhodes; they who were the first to raise statues to the gods, furnish them with weapons, and men with magic arts? And is it not they who were destroyed by a deluge at the command of Zeus, as the Cainites were by that of Jehovah? The Telchines are simply the Kabiri and the Titans, in another form. They are also the Atlanteans.

The fact that, astronomically, the Titans-Kabirim were also the generators and regulators of the seasons, and cosmically the great Volcanic Energies, the gods presiding over all the metals and terrestrial works, does not prevent them from being, in their original divine characters, the beneficent Entities who, symbolized in Prometheus, brought light to the world, and endowed humanity with intellect and reason. When incarnated as Kings of the "divine Dynasties," they gave the first impulse to civilizations, and directed the mind with which they had endued men to the invention and perfection of all the arts and sciences. Thus the Kabiri are said to have appeared as the benefactors of men, and as such they lived for ages in the memory of nations.
Does the Tribe of Benjamin represent the Sons of Belial?
http://thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpBB3/v ... 255#p51099

Habiru, essentially ‘gypsies’, a generic term for Semitic nomads used by both the Egyptians and Canaanites, move into Palestine, and later Egypt, from Mesopotamia. One particularly dangerous ‘raiding band’ known as the Ben Yamin is said to be nomadic ‘Baal worshippers’ whose territorial routes were blocked when the land was enclosed by first city dwellers. This event is also the source of the Cain and Abel myth.

Even in biblical times: ‘Benjamin shall ravin [as] a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil’.

The wolf is regarded by some as the totemic animal of the tribe (just as the lion is for Judah).

Habiru settle in Palestine. Some become mercenaries of the Asiatic Hyksos army which invades Palestine from north.

Hyksos invade Egypt and become its new rulers. Habiru incorporated. Confederal State formed from several semi-autonomous local kingdoms (some Hyksos, and other Semites, some still native Egyptian, including Kingdom of Thebes).

Theban Egyptians, under ultra-nationalistic Priesthood of Amun, overthrow and expel Hyksos and all foreigners, particularly Semites. Reunify country under a traditional centralised Imperial State. Possibly other Egyptians support Hyksos against Thebans (including an Anti-Amunist ‘Atenist’ aristocrat called Moses/Akhenaten?) and expelled with them.

The Tribe of Benjamin (Benjaminites) was divided into three (or four) clans:

Belah (Belaites), ‘Destroyers’; Ahiram (Ahiramites), ‘Brothers of Craft’ (Freemasonry is packed with Benjaminite motifs); and Ashbel (Ashbelites), ‘People of the Ancient Fire’. Is this a possible division of warrior, craftsman/farmer and priest specialisation?

Becher (Becherites), ‘the First Born’, seems to be a fourth Clan that either died out or emigrated

The Families of the Belah Clan were: Ard (Ardites), ‘the Fallen Ones’ and Naaman (Naamites), ‘the Beautiful Ones’.

The Families of the Ahiram Clan appear to be: Huppim (Huppimites), ‘Those of Seashore’, Muppim (Muppimites), ‘Those of the Mouth’, Shuppim (Shuppimites)?

The Families of the Ashbel Clan appear to be: Rosh (Roshites), ‘Those of the Head, Gera (Gerites), ‘Those of Enmity’, Ehi (Ehites), ‘Those Who Praise’.

Israel - Benjaminite War

When the Levites led a ‘revenge attack’ on the ‘children of Belial’, the Canaanite worshippers of Belial, an old name for Astarte, they were defended by their neighbours the Tribe of Benjamin, who were also suspected of goddess worship. A war began which Israel eventually won. The Benjaminites were saved from annihilation (900 out of 26,000) and allowed to take Canaanite wives to repopulate their cities.

As the Davidic record tells it:

‘Now therefore deliver up to us the men, the children of Belial, which are in Gibeah, that we may put them to death, and put away evil from Israel. But the children of Benjamin would not hearken to the voice of their brethren the children of Israel’.

‘But the children of Benjamin gathered themselves together out of the cities unto Gibeah, to go out to battle against the children of Israel’.

’The Tribe of Benjamin had been singled out for a very special and exalted blessing, when in Deuteronomy 33:12, Moses pronounced blessings on the patriarchs of each of the twelve tribes. Of Benjamin, Moses said, "The beloved of the Lord shall dwell in safety by him; and the Lord shall cover him all the day long, and he shall dwell between his shoulders." ‘ This last point was identified as a special ‘birthmark’ on members of the tribe, similar to that of Cain, it is given various forms in different accounts, one of which was a ‘red cross between the shoulders’.

The Tribe of Benjamin later produced the first elected King of Israel, Saul, a Judge from the smallest family, of the smallest clan, of the smallest tribe, to organise the tribes of Israel against the invading Aegean Philistines, but he battles against the priests of Yahweh. He is later deposed by the religious maniac King David and his private army of Philistine mercenaries, who founds the Dynasty of Judah and unites Israel into a Nation against all other local peoples. Later the tiny remnant of the Tribe of Benjamin together with the larger Tribe of Judah form the new Kingdom of Judah, the remaining ten tribes created the Kingdom of Israel which breaks away.

Robert Graves argued that the founder of the second dynasty of Argos, in Arcadia, Danaos the Libyan, son of Belos the Egyptian, was actually Danaiel the Phoenician, son of Beliel of the Hyksos, drawing on the sources mentioned earlier, and the Semitic origin of the names (as, os or ios and al, el or iel being the divine suffixes in Indo-European and Semitic languages respectively), supporting this with the facts that the Argives (people of Argos) introduced an ‘aggressive Aphrodite’ to Arcadia, who sounds very much like Astarte, and established the pre-eminence of a goddess cult there, and that Pan also became a popular deity in Arcadia around the same time (Graves identifies Pan with Baal)

Even more controversially it was also argued from all this that the ‘Danaans’ formed a separate tribe in Greece and that one branch of it became the Celtic ‘Tuatha de Danaan’, which was why some Celts claimed to be of Greek or Trojan descent! Others associated Danaiel with a member of the tribe of Benjamin in exile and Beliel with his clan of Belah. It should be noted however that Heccataeus of Abdera did not claim this, but rather that the original Danaans and the Israelites were both descended from the Hyksos.

The mythos was later extended to the Merovingian Franks and others (said to be of part Celtic descent). These were said to have a taboo about cutting their hair (as did, allegedly, the ancient Arcadians and Nazarites of Israel) and to have had a strange birthmark, identified with the ‘red cross of Benjamin’. This ‘red cross’ has even been claimed as the origin of the Knights Templar symbol (with or without the Merovingians as carriers).
Is it really an ongoing battle between descendants Merovingian dynasty who consider themselves to be descendents of the Jewish high priest Aaron vs. the families of the descendants of his brother Moses and conversely of David -- and thus of Jesus of Nazareth?

Red White and Black
http://www.gravity.org/mythology/mythol ... y_all.html
I’ve pointed up the tripartite social order of Europe’s emergent Middle Ages: peasants, aristocrats, and monarchs: Black, Red, White, or Black, White, Red, depending on whether you emphasize the mediating or challenging aspect, respectively, of the aristocrats.

Wrapped up in these aristocracies and monarchies — especially in the Merovingian dynasty — is a legendary group of families who considered themselves descendents of the Jewish high priest Aaron (Red/Dionysian brother of chiefly White/Apollonian Moses) and conversely of (chiefly White/Apollonian) David -- and thus of Jesus of Nazareth -- and who likewise considered themselves descendents of the Jewish Sadducees, i.e. of the Zadokites, a proto-mythological “sect” which was sympathetic to the Romans but disappeared when Judaism became chiefly White/Apollonian during the first few centuries CE. This bloodline is known as Rex Deus, i.e. Redux, Red–White, Priest–Royal.

Legend has it that these families instigated the first Crusade and established the Knights Templar to recover -- especially from the site of (proto-mythological) Solomon’s Temple in Jerusalem -- the lost knowledge of the Sadducees. In fact the famously enigmatic seal of the Knights Templar depicts a single horse ridden by 2 knights; and it was for proto- mythologically emphasizing the complexity of old Black–White–Red Father Dis that the Templars were so-called secret at bottom of Freemasonry and likewise it is the reason why the government of the United States separates church and state while emphatically involving God and state.

Regarding the Merovingians, we note that they were referred to as the “long-haired kings” due to their symbolically unshorn hair. Their hair was also said to be red. What did this long, red hair symbolize? Well, the Greeks called the Pleiades constellation -- a cluster of what to the naked eye seems to be six stars but is mythologically said to be missing one star-- the kometes, “long-haired,” which word is the basis of our comet. Later I will explain that the Pleiades and comets proto-mythologically represent the college of king-killing, Red/Dionsyian nymphs, especially the likes of the chief nymph Aphrodite. By no mere coincidence, I think, does the name Magdalene -- as in Mary Magdalene, she who had “7 demons cast out of her” -- mean “one who builds up hair.” The congressional essence of hair, the Pleiades, and comets is the meaning of the Greek and Latin word komes, “companion, bound (by oath),” and more generally of the prefix com-, as in commoner and plebe, which latter -- like the word plenty, as in Saturn’s wife Ops, goddess of work/plenty/eye/light/face/snake/power/voice/opera/covering/ancestors/ aristocrats/summits -- is especially akin to Pleiades.

Thus we have the complex basis of the Italian conte, the French comte and the English word count, i.e. earl (from the Old Norse jarl), aristocrat. In Danish this word is Greve; in Dutch it is Graaf. These words are curiously similar to the English gravity, grieve, and grail. In Polish the word for count is Hrabia; in Czech it is hrabě. These are similar to the English hair, which derives from the proto-Germanic *Hæran. Thus we seem to arrive again at Abraham’s Haran, the apex of the journey, the moment of transition, of king-killing, as it were, the complex moment of quantum gravity, of rising–falling — the essence of all existence.

The priestly power seems to have achieved its greatest possible antique precision and generality and thus its pinnacle just prior to 3200 BCE. Evidence of that pinnacle stems mostly from Europe and the Middle East, especially from the British Isles and Mesopotamia. But in Mesopotamia this apex coincided with the space–time epicenter of the aforementioned complex of impulses — and especially with the seemingly most random, unfathomable, and unprecedented component thereof: acute infectious epidemic diseases. The Mesopotamian priesthood — most notably the priesthood of the Sumerians — must have been largely discredited by these invisible, seemingly lawless foes and by the consequent and similarly random attacks which raiders from the desert and steppe (Semites and P-I-E Aryans, respectively) waged upon the physically and spiritually weakened populace. The same wits who could predict the movements of the heavenly bodies could do almost nothing to accurately predict the essentially random attacks that were crippling the incipient agriculture.

The Sumerians, I should add, seem to have arrived in the region of southern Mesopotamia (alias Sumeria) just prior to c. 3200 BC and with their culture already fully developed. Where they came from nobody knows; but they called their place of origin Dilmun. The Sumerian language, like the Basque, seems to be a language unto itself; it is, for instance, neither Semitic nor Indo European. The name Sumer (Shumer, Shinar) is Akkadian (Semitic). The Sumerians referred to themselves as the Sag-gi-ga, which name is commonly interpreted to mean “Black-Headed People” and likely signifies a proto-mythological recognition of the Black/Baroque as the basis of culture in general.

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 6:10 pm

Were Noah and Abraham Nephilim?

The Book of Enoch and UFO’s
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/enoch/esp_enoch_7.htm
And after some days my son, Methuselah, took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became pregnant by him and bore him a son. And his body was white as snow and red as a rose; the hair of his head as white as wool and his demdema (‘long curly hair’) beautiful; and as for his eyes, when he opened them the whole house glowed like the sun

And his father, Lamech, was afraid of him and fled and went to Methuselah his father; and he said to him,

“I have begotten a strange son. He is not like an (ordinary) human being, but he looks like the children of the angels of heaven to me, his form is different, and he is not like us ... It does not seem to me that he is of me, but of angels..."

These words form the opening lines to what must be one of the most astonishing yet chilling fragments of religious text ever written.

They are the assertions of the antediluvian patriarch Enoch as he describes the sheer distress and horror that accompanied the miraculous birth of a son to his grandson, Lamech. The passage is taken from the Book of Noah, an ancient script of Hebrew origin appended to the more famous Book of Enoch, a pseudepigraphal (i.e. falsely attributed) work, considered by scholars to have been put together in stages during the first half of the second century BC.

For any reader with an open mind, this is a perplexing enigma further deepened by a more personal portrayal of the birth of Lamech’s son, which is to be found in a poorly preserved fragment of religious text, discovered with many other rolled-up brittle scrolls inside a cave overlooking the Dead Sea in 1947. Known to scholars today as the Genesis Apocryphon, this unique work was written in Aramaic, the Syriac language adopted by the Hebrew scribes following their exile in Babylon during the sixth century BC.

The narrative begins just after the strange birth as Lamech starts voicing his suspicions concerning the suspected infidelity of his wife, here named as Bathenosh - and referred to also as his sister - for he says:

“Behold, I thought then within my heart that conception was (due) to the Watchers and the Holy Ones ... and to the Nephilim . . . and my heart was troubled within me because of this child.”

Turning to his obviously distraught wife, Lamech makes her swear by the Most High that she will tell him the truth and admit if she has lain with anyone else.

It is clear that Lamech is accusing his wife of sleeping not with angels in general, but with having had relations with a specific race of divine beings known in Hebrew as ‘irin’ (‘ir’ in singular), meaning “those who watch” or “those who are awake”, which is translated into Greek as ‘egregoris or grigori’, meaning watchers. These Watchers feature in the main within the pages of pseudepigraphal and apocryphal works of—wish origin, such as the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees.

Their progeny, according to Hebrew tradition, are named as nephilim, a Hebrew word meaning “those who have fallen” or “the fallen ones”, translated into Greek as ‘gigantes’, or “giants” - a monstrous race featured in the Theogony of the hellenic writer Hesiod (c. 907 Bc). As in the biblical account, this ancient Greek work focuses on the creation of the world, the rise and fall of a Golden Age, the coming of the giant races and finally a universal flood. Bathenosh’s touching plea of innocence to her husband and brother Lamech comes across as most convincing, and provides tantalizing evidence that this ancient account may contain some grain of truth.

Somehow it could just be based on a real-life event that occurred in a past age of mankind. If so, then exactly who, or what, were these Watchers and Nephilim who could lie with mortal women and produce offspring recognizable by their physiological traits alone? Are there any grounds whatsoever on which to consider that these apocryphal stories were based on the miscegenation between two different races of human beings, one of whom has been misidentified or falsely equated with the angels of heaven? If not, then exactly what were such stories meant to convey to the reader?

The Book of Enoch seems to provide an answer. Lamech, fearful of his predicament, consults his father, Methuselah, who, unable to alleviate the situation, embarks upon a journey to find his own father Enoch, who has withdrawn from the world and now lives among the angels’.

Theologians are more or less united in their opinion that the widespread accounts of fallen angels cohabiting with mortal women, like those included in the Book of Enoch, the Genesis Apocryphon and similar texts, are no more than fanciful expansions of three verses to be found in Chapter 6 of the Book of Genesis, squeezed between a genealogical listing of the antediluvian patriarchs and a brief account of Noah’s Ark and the coming of the Flood.

By sons of God the text means heavenly angels, although the Hebrew original, bene ha-elohim, should really be translated as sons of the Gods, a much more disconcerting prospect (and something to be returned to in a subsequent chapter). In verse 3 of Chapter 6, God unexpectedly pronounces that his spirit cannot remain in men for ever, and that since humanity is a creation of flesh, its lifespan will be shortened to an hundred and twenty years.

The majority would probably have been unaware that these problematical verses even existed in the Book of Genesis. Others, who did have some knowledge of the matter, are unlikely to have been able to expand on it, while only a very small minority would have believed in the actual existence of fallen angels. Many commentators would have been unable to explain exactly how such stories related to the physical world we live in, while other more fundamentalist Jews or Christians have seen such corruption and wickedness as the actions of bloodline descendants of those first fallen angels who cohabited with mortal women before the time of the Flood.

Some academic scholars, on the other hand, while unable to accept any basis in fact behind the concept of fallen angels and their monstrous offspring, the Nephilim, would be willing to admit that the original authors of the Book of Genesis (traditionally accredited to Moses the lawgiver) based their material on previously existing folk legends, probably from Mesopotamia (the country known today as Iraq).

This might well be so, but accepting Genesis 6: 1-4 as the product of far older Middle Eastern myths allows for the possibility that, sometime during a bygone age of mankind, there existed on earth, presumably in the bible lands themselves, an elite and probably superior race of human beings. These people presumably achieved a state of high civilization before degenerating into a corruption and wickedness that included the taking of wives from among the less civilized races and the creation of monstrous offspring of disproportionate size to their immediate family.

It might also be suggested that a series of global cataclysms thereafter brought fire, flood and darkness to the earth and ended the reign of this race of giants. Should we see accounts like Lamech’s torment at the miraculous birth of his son Noah, and untold others like it, as tantalizing evidence for the idea that fallen angels were something far more than simply incorporeal beings cast out of heaven by the archangel Michael, as the theologians and propagators of the Christian, Islamic and Jewish faiths have taught during the last two thousand years?

Could their very existence be confirmed by making an in-depth study of Hebrew myths and legends and then comparing these with other Near Eastern and Middle Eastern religions and traditions? Most important of all might not there still be evidence of their physical existence on earth that has been preserved in the records of modern-day archaeology and anthropology?

Such thought-provoking possibilities were worth further consideration. If, at the end of the day, it was found that no such evidence for the existence of a now lost race in the bible lands could be discovered, then at least an age-old enigma would have been investigated thoroughly.

On the other hand, if there really was firm evidence that angels and fallen angels once walked among mankind as beings of flesh and blood, no different from you or me, then it could change our perspective of world history for ever.

Descendants of Noah

Despite the Book of Enoch's extraordinary material concerning the story of the Watchers, much of its later chapters appeared to be unconnected with my search to discover the origins of the fallen race. Indeed, they seemed to have been written by a different hand altogether. This supposition was confirmed when I realized that the chapters featuring the fall of the Watchers, the birth of Noah and the Flood narrative had all been taken from the much earlier, now lost, apocalyptic work known as the Book of Noah. It would simply confuse matters if I were to start referring to the Book of Noah instead of the Book of Enoch, but knowledge that Noah, not Enoch, was the original narrator of this story is important indeed and may well provide the key to understanding the reasons behind the Essenes’ interest in this demonic literature.

Because of the covenant Noah had made with God at the time of the Great Flood, the Dead Sea communities accredited him with having been God‘s first bringer of rain, or rainmaker, and saw themselves as direct lineal descendants of this rain-making line - a point emphasized again and again in their religious literature.

Many Jews in the last two centuries before Christ actually believed that wandering holy men, or zaddiks, the righteous, were direct descendants of Noah and could therefore perform rain-making feats -- a divine virtue bestowed upon them by birthright. Renowned of the rainmakers in Jewish tradition was Onlas the Righteous, also known as Honi the Circle-drawer. His daughter’s son, Hanan the Hidden, and another grandson named Abba Hilkiah, were also able to repeat their grandfathers rain-making feats.

From research into rain-making traditions, it seems probable that the priests would achieve these inexplicable weather changes by retiring from the community and drawing rings of sand on the ground. They would then stand in the centre of this magic circle and perform their supernatural conjuration - the effectiveness of such wild talents never being doubted. When they were not drawing down rain, the Zaddiks would live wild existences, crossing great distances on foot and spending long periods among the harsh, rugged hills on the west bank of the Dead Sea. Here they would enter into the isolated caves and spend long periods deep in meditation and contemplation.

More important, however, was the knowledge that these wandering Zaddik-priests, who walked freely among the Dead Sea communities, were the teachers of the Kabbalah, the arcane knowledge passed on orally from person to person. With their great understanding of the Kabbalah, and their claimed descent from Noah, it seemed extremely likely that it was these wandering holy men who had first conveyed knowledge of the Watchers story to the Essenes. If this theory was correct, then who were these wandering Zaddiks? Why did they believe themselves to be direct descendants of Noah? And where and when did they obtain these stories concerning the fall of the Watchers?

Until I could answer these questions the authenticity of the Book of Enoch must inevitably remain difficult to assess as historical fact. For the moment, I needed to understand more about the roots behind the story of the Watchers, how their fall came about and, most important of all, its point of origin.
Stories of the Nephilim and Rephaim
http://firstlegend.info/nephilimoggilgal.html
The Bible names these Nephilim tribes, with the Rephaim being the most notable, as the Anakin, Avim, Emim, Gibborim, Horim, Zamzummim and the Zuzim (and others).

So we know that at least this part of the legend is from the Iron Age. This fits in very well with archaeological dating of the dolmens which are scattered over a large area on this map and continuing south. The Iron Age in the Levant begins at about 1,200 - 1,000 BC. This is about the time of King David who slew Goliath - a Nephilim and the time of the extermination of this race of people. After David there is no mention of the Nephilim in the Holy Land. They are referred to as shades and the dead. Og was the last of the Rephiam (but not Nephilim) according to the Bible.

Today the Valley of the Rephiam is a part of Israel just south of Jerusalem by a few miles. It took some time to finally kill them off - around a thousand years. These stories would not begin to be written until after 900 BC. Moses is supposed to be the one who slew Og (Numbers 21:34-5) and died at the age of 120 years old around 1400-1300 BC which would predate the Levant Iron Age.

Another myth about this king famous to the ancients is with Abraham. According to tradition Og was supposed to have informed Abraham of Lot’s abduction by King Chedorlaomer. Accordingly Og and Abraham were familiar with one another. It’s not like Og suddenly shows up; Og and Abraham had some kind of implied relationship.

Abraham was after all living among the Nephilim who happened to inhabit Canaan. Og in both of these stories has his own hidden agenda. After Noah's Ark finally rests on solid earth, Og tries to seduce Sarah, Noah's wife. As for Abraham Og hopes that Abraham will be killed in his rescue attempt of Lot and thereby being able to marry Sarah, Abraham's wife. Once again we see the sexual underlying theme of the Nephilim. As a side note: Abraham was living in or very near Hebron which was built by the Nephilim Arba, father to Anak. Originally this city was named Kirjath-arba and later became Hebron.

This is interesting in that one of the myths of Noah and the Ark is that one of the women aboard was pregnant with a Nephilim child (that would be Ham's wife) and thus, of course, did the Nephilim reappear after the flood. There seems to have been an obsession with the Nephilim not only with Noah and Abraham but in general. Not surprising considering who they really were for they really were the men of renown. All of these stories were written after the demise of the Nephilim and constitute part of giants in folklore.

Here is a sub-story and it is of the birth of Noah whose father was Lamech son of Methuselah. When Noah as a baby according to the apocryphal Book of Noah opened his eyes, "the whole house glowed like the sun". Deeming that the supernatural was involved his father questioned his wife on her fidelity in that she had relations with an angel and therefore Noah would be considered a Nephilim the result of the mating of a human woman with an angelic man - a Watcher (derived from the Greek egregoris or grigori). She denies that this had happened which was true and confirmed by Enoch. Methuselah questioned his father Enoch on this subject. (He had to visit Heaven to do so.) Enoch confirmed that Noah was in fact Lamech's son and adding that it was in the time of Jared, his father, that the transgression of the rebel angels happened and that they descended from Heaven onto Mount Hermon which is adjacent to the northern tip of Golan which is in Bashan and can be seen from Og's capitol cities near Argob in Bashan's southeastern part.
Mighty Men of Renown
http://ancient-contact.blogspot.com/200 ... chive.html
Arba was rebuilt by the Khabiri or confederates seven years before Zoan was built by Egyptian Pharoahs of the nineteenth dynasty.

If these Nephilim and their branch of Rephaim were associated with Egypt, we have an explanation of the problem which has for ages perplexed all engineers, as to how those huge stones and monuments were brought together. Why not in Egypt as well as in "the giant cities of Bashan" which exist, as such, to this day? Genesis 4:17: And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. Rujm Hiri, was a major megalithic stone circle in Bashan, the old kingdom of Og. Rujm Hiri may predate Stonehenge and may have been built by the same people.

Though the giants of old have long since passed, remnants of their passing can still be found scattered around Palestine, Jordan, Egypt, and Syria/Lebanon. Dolmens, stone circles, perhaps ancient giant skeletons, weapons, armor, and even forbidden technologies may await discovery throughout the region, for those who are daring enough to brave potential terror threats — or risk disturbing long-buried spirits that are best forgotten. The most famous artifacts of the Rephaim are the Rujm Hiri stone circle, the Gilgal Rephaim stone circle, and the various dolmens scattered throughout ancient Palestine and Jordan that mark ancient, buried secrets. Though access to many of these regions are restricted, dangerous, and even forbidden, such as the disputed Golan Heights region, where Rujm Hiri and Gilgal Rephaim lie, access may be available to the persistent.

By reading all these passages the Bible student may know all that can be known about these beings. It is certain that the second eruption took place before Gen. 14, for there the Rephaim were mixed up with the five nations or peoples, which included Sodom and Gomorrah, and were defeated by the four kings under Chedorlaomer. Their principal locality was evidently "Ashtaroth Karnaim", while the Emim were in the plain of Kiriathaim (Gen. 14:5). Anak was a noted descendant of the Nephilim; and Rapha was another, giving their names respectively to different clans. Anak’s father was Arba, the original builder of Hebron (Gen. 35.27; Josh. 15.13; 21.11); and this Palestine branch of the Anakim was not called Abrahim after him, but Anakim after Anak. They were great, mighty, and tall (Deut. 2.10,11,21,22,23; 9.2), evidently inspiring the ten spies with great fear (Num. 13.33). Og king of Bashan is described in Deut. 3.11.

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 6:39 pm

Aravoth
http://www.mazzaroth.com/Introduction/M ... efined.htm
The Church rejected the Slavonic and Ethiopic Book of Enoch from its canon. Because of its great antiquity it could not coincide with the limit of the 4004 years B.C. assigned to the world’s creation. It presents Enoch’s translation into heaven from the first to the tenth.

The Eighth Heaven was called Muzaloth, a place of the changing of the Season.
The Ninth Heaven was called Kuvachim, the Houses of the Signs of the Zodiac.

The last, Tenth Heaven was called Aravoth from which Enoch recognized the constellation whence came our first ancestors, the star Altair (in Aquila,) or as seen in The Book of Enoch and his translation into Heaven in a later chapter.


Was Enoch taken to planet X the tenth planet?
http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2002.0
In the tenth heaven the archangel Michael led Enoch to before the Lord’s face

1 On the tenth heaven, which is called Aravoth, I saw the appearance of the Lord’s face, like iron made to glow in fire, and brought out, emitting sparks, and it burns.

2 Thus in a moment of eternity I saw the Lord’s face, but the Lord’s face is ineffable, marvellous and very awful, and very, very terrible.

3 And who am I to tell of the Lord’s unspeakable being, and of his very wonderful face? And I cannot tell the quantity of his many instructions, and various voices, the Lord's throne is very great and not made with hands, nor the quantity of those standing round him, troops of cherubim and seraphim, nor their incessant singing, nor his immutable beauty, and who shall tell of the ineffable greatness of his glory.

4 And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me:

5 Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before my face into eternity.

6 And the archistratege (5) Michael lifted me up, and led me to before the Lord’s face.

(5) Archistratege. Or, "the commander of the armies of the nations, named Michael."

7 And the Lord said to his servants tempting them: Let Enoch stand before my face into eternity, and the glorious ones bowed down to the Lord, and said: Let Enoch go according to Your word.

8 And the Lord said to Michael: Go and take Enoch from out of his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of My glory.

9 And Michael did thus, as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the sun’s ray, and I looked at myself, and I was like one of his glorious ones (6).

(6) Glorious ones. Or, "one of the seven highest angels."

10 And the Lord summoned one of his archangels by name Pravuil, whose knowledge was quicker in wisdom than the other archangels, who wrote all the deeds of the Lord; and the Lord said to Pravuil: Bring out the books from my store-houses, and a reed of quick-writing, and give it to Enoch, and deliver to him the choice and comforting books out of your hand.
Ancients Coming To Earth
http://ancient-contact.blogspot.com/200 ... chive.html
From my research on ancient Sumerian/Babylonian timeline of the Genesis, I would place the Annunaki’s first visit around 500,000 BCE. They came from Nibiru and from a planet mentioned in the book of the Secrets of Enoch called ‘Aravoth’ which is said to be the throne of the Creator Yahweh. Aravoth in Hebrew means ' father of Creation' which was recorded by Enoch the master ascended one, in the first person.

These beings were of the hundreds when they came to our planet after Yahweh created it. He, Micheal, Gabriel, Uriel and many other Hebrew angels came to planet earth some 500,000 years ago.

They landed their spaceships in Africa, Mesopotamia and South American. These 200 watchers were appointed in Edin. They dwelt on the mountians of Haran. They were those who built the city of Atlantis in 470,000 BCE. It is the original home of 'Man' and 'Woman'.

But these 200 Watchers rebelled after Adam and Eve had many children. When the daughters were born unto Adam and Eve, these 200 Watchers, 'The Brotherhood of The Serpent' led by Samayaza and many other beings caused these women to get pregnant and they bore mighty men of renown, the so called 'Giants'. These giants are the ones who took over Atlantis and Lemuria in 90,000 BCE.

The war of heaven was caused by Micheal, the captain of Yahweh finding out what Samayaza and the other serpents had done; it caused a battle to break out on Nibiru and other planets. Before this war started Samayaza and the other 199 Serpents who got these women pregnant tried to go back to Orion and live on the planet Yahweh gave them such as Nibiru and act like nothing happened. They were persecuted and cast back down to the Earth.

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Re: Bill McDonald's General Composite of the Roswell Spacecraft

Unread post by lizzie » Sat May 07, 2011 7:32 pm

What if the Giants were really the Anunnaki and the Nephalim were the shapeshifting Reptilians who corrupted the “seed of man.” What if the 13 Illuminati bloodlines (the 13 Tribes of Israel) are their human/reptilian hybrids?

History of Jehovah and the Anunnaki
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/prep ... ssage/7770
Aloha Michael

Thank you for sharing your insights and reflections on the Anunnaki and Jehovah in your paper examining the exopolitical history of humanity http://ivan.Harhan.ORG/documents/2003-0 ... ng-doc.txt .

I agree with your main thesis that the Anunnaki were not Reptilians as David Icke and Jim Marrs suggest, but were instead human looking ETs that freely and openly interacted with humanity. I believe you are correct that while the Enki faction of the Anunnaki had some Reptilian genetics, they were still primarily human looking. This is consistent with what Alex Collier had to say about the Anunnaki as being a creation of two royal houses, one from Sirius B and the other from Orion. According to the Andromedans that Collier communicated with, the fusion created the Anunnaki who lived on the world of Nibiru. This of course is the race that Sitchin spoke of and who played such a key role in the genetic creation of humanity.

Your historical analysis is very sound and I agree with your scholarship here.

I also agree with you that a key historical event was the disappearance of the Anunnaki around 2000 BC. Now your insight here that this signified a take over by another group of ETs led by Jehovah is very insightful. More importantly, your claim that this faction was Reptilian is very significant, and I think that historical facts support your thesis. What stands out for me is that there was a key transition in the formulation and practice of religion. Previously, the gods or Anunnaki physically interacted with surface humanity, and they had their pantheon with Anu, Enlil and Enki playing the leadership roles with Anu as the Supreme God.

Now your idea that this was displaced by a belief of a new supreme ruler Yahweh or Jehovah is important since Yahweh was an 'Unknown God', someone who could not be seen or defined. Now a religionist might claim that this is a mysterious universal truth and espouse some dogmatic justification for it. Yet I think a prosaic explanation is equally valid that Yahweh was in fact a non-human ET, a Reptilian. This would explain why Yahweh could not be seen and why in the future religious devotion would be directed to the unknown God rather than the known gods who previously physically interacted with humanity.

Your insights that the ancient Hebrews were technologically aided by Yahweh/Jehovah in overcoming the strongholds of the Anunnaki is brilliant. This makes great sense and helps explain why the Hebrews would have been so successful in their campaigns of extermination against the population in Palestine that presumably were remnants of the Anunnaki civilization and thus had advanced technology. The evidence of nuclear wars in the Sinai Peninsula points to such a confrontation. Now Sitchin describes this destruction as a factional war between the Anunnaki, but I think your thesis makes more sense. It was another ET race, the Reptilians, who basically came and took over the Earth by gaining the allegiance of various tribes such as the Hebrews. This is pretty consistent with my own assessment that there has been historic competition between the Anunnaki and the Reptilians from Alpha Draconis or Draconians (see http://exopolitics.org/Report-ET%20Motivations.htm ).

I think that so far, we are in agreement and I thank you for your contribution and brilliant insights and scholarship here. Now there are a couple of areas where it would be useful getting some clarification and a disagreement over who are the best allies of humanity in the present exopolitical situation on Earth.

First, the role of the Illuminati in what has been described so far is critical. Who exactly are they? Are they remnants of the Anunnaki control that previously existed (my initial idea) or extensions of the Reptilian takeover (Icke's idea) or a combination of both? My guess is that the Illuminati are more closely aligned with the Anunnaki which is why there has been historic conflict between the Illuminati and Religious institutions such as the Catholic Church which presumably are bastions of Reptilian control. For example, the Knight Templars and their destruction by the Catholic Church, where the Anunnaki elite are destroyed by the Jehoavah/Yahweh based elite.

In your analysis, if the Illuminati are associated with the Anunnaki, they are the good guys. Now this to a certain degree might help explain the present tension between Europe (dominated by the Illuminati) and the US (dominated by Reptilians/Jehovah) over Iraq and more generally control of the planet. The conflict in Iraq has echoes of this ancient conflict between the Anunnaki and the Jehovah based religionists who are secretly a front for the Reptilians. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this.

Second, Icke focuses greatly on the shapeshifting abilities of the Anunnaki and the Illuminati. He subsequently describes them as Reptilian. Now while I agree with you that the Anunnaki are not Reptilians in a pure sense of those whose genetics are fully Reptilian, they still might have these shapeshifting abilities which might lead to Icke's thesis being partially correct.

The problem then shifts from Reptilians per se, to hybrid human-Reptilians that comprise the Enki faction of the Anunnaki. Put simply, the Enki faction looks human enough, but can shapeshift thus making it possible for them to still have much political power as Icke suggests with his thesis that the royal families are dominated by Reptilian shapeshifters.

Now the final point I wish to make and where I feel we disagree is with the idea that the Anunnaki are our allies in freeing the earth from the Reptilians who use Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah as covers for their secret domination of Earth. As I see it, there are two ET factions who have historically competed for control of Earth. By choosing one faction over the other, presumably because it is genetically more human and has shown evidence of being more compassionate than the other doesn't appear to be very transformative to me.

I think we can look beyond these two factions for a solution and find the answer in other ET races that are not associated with either faction that are used to running the Earth. A number of contactees have spoken of ET races from Andromeda, Arcturus, Sirius A, Pleiades, etc., who are also here trying to assist humanity in its evolution. My own initial efforts in establishing contact through a number of exercises/experiments confirm that this assistance is indeed very real and that human evolution would be supported by these ETs. Part of this evolution of consciousness means taking our power back from our hidden ET controllers which means both the Reptilians and the Anunnaki rather than helping one faction or the other.

I sense this difference of opinion between us is probably more a strategic question so there is always the possibility of tactical alliances with groups such as the Illuminati/Anunnaki who might help us move forward part of the way as you suggest. However, I believe that even the Anunnaki cannot be fully trusted due to ingrained habits of control and elitism that would soon result in new institutions of power and control that would enslave/limit portions of humanity. So we need to think outside of the box here so that in freeing ourselves from one system of control, we don't legitimize another control system with another group of ETs running the show.

Well that's it so thanks for the quality of your paper, and I look forward to hearing from you.

In peace,

Michael S.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/prep ... ssage/7789

Aloha Dr. Salla,
Thank you for sharing your insights and reflections on the Anunnaki and Jehovah in your paper examining the exo-political history of humanity http://ivan.Harhan.ORG/documents/2003-0 ... ng-doc.txt.
Thank you for the compliment!
I also agree with you that a key historical event was the disappearance of the Anunnaki around 2000 BC. Now your insight here that this signified a take over by another group of ETs led by Jehovah is very insightful.
I have also been able to scavenge enough data from the ancient clues to construct a mathematical model of the orbit of Nibiru / Planet X, and guess what, in that fateful year 2024 BCE it was precisely in its aphelion, the farthest out point. Think about it, if you are an outsider seeking to attack the Anunnaki bases on Earth, when would be the best time for attack?

I will present my model of the orbit of Planet X in my book, along with the full chain of reasoning that led to it.
This would explain why Yahweh could not be seen [...]
I have also pondered the possibility that Yahweh did not want anyone to see his physical form because he was so extremely ugly and gross. Which brings us to the following thought... does anyone remember the highly negative "disclosure briefing" John Lear gave to Art Bell last year? When he was "showing" the 18 alien species known to the shadow government, he made a comment about one of them:

"These are five-second slides of the 18 different alien species we are looking at. That one there is the most gruesome-looking. The guards at one facility are carefully indoctrinated over a period of several months being shown pictures similar to but not exactly like the alien. Only when they'd been acclimatized, so to speak, to the horrible-looking beings are they allowed to stand in security positions. Before these acclimatizations were done, we had two guards die of a heart attack as the aliens came down the hallway unexpectedly."

That makes me wonder. I'm not even 100% sure of the reptilian nature, to be honest. Another candidate for this ugly monster is the praying mantis alien. Some remote viewer has seen a praying mantis when peeking back into 1930s at some folks talking in German about the atomic bomb. Hmm, Yahwist reptilian-insectoids helping Nazis... But then we know that Hitler was in fact a Jew, an illegitimate grandson of one of the Rothschilds.

(And for those wondering, my answer to the Lear Test is an emphatic Yes.)
It was another ET race, the Reptilians, who basically came and took over the Earth by gaining the allegiance of various tribes such as the Hebrews.
... and I believe their methods involved mental takeover, neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and Controlled Remote Influencing (CRI).

I will write more about this in my book.
Now there are a couple of areas where it would be useful getting some clarification and a disagreement over who are the best allies of humanity in the present exo-political situation on Earth.
OK...
First, the role of the Illuminati in what has been described so far is critical.
Yes.
Who exactly are they? Are they remnants of the Anunnaki control that previously existed (my initial idea) or extensions of the Reptilian takeover (Icke's idea) or a combination of both?
I believe the former. Of course considering that the Yahwists' primary modus operandi seems to be mental takeover and reprogramming, it is entirely possible and plausible that many of the Illuminati have fallen to their side.
My guess is that the Illuminati are more closely aligned with the Anunnaki which is why there has been historic conflict between the Illuminati and Religious institutions such as the Catholic Church which presumably are bastions of Reptilian control.
Very sharp, that's exactly my reasoning.
E.g, the Knight Templar and their destruction by the Catholic Church, here the Anunnaki elite are destroyed by the Jehoavah/Yahweh based elite.
Yes, and think about what got the Templars in trouble in the first place: they dug up something in the ruins of Jerusalem, which we know from Sitchin is the site of the Anunnaki's Command Centre. Now think about these two questions:

1. What is the most restricted and most secure place on Earth today? It is not the White House. It is not the Pentagon. It is not Kremlin. It is the Dome on the Rock in Jerusalem. Or it’s Area 51. It’s one of those two. Or rather they are probably about equal. Now what does it tell you, the mere fact that those two can be listed side by side like this? They are fundamentally of the same nature, major ET sites on Earth.

2. What is the never-ending conflict between Israel and Palestine all about? It's about Jerusalem. Even more specifically, about who ought to own that Sacred Spot. It is the apple of the dispute. Now why is it so special? Why is it worth risking World War III over? We know why it was so important in the past - it was the Anunnaki Command Centre. But why is it so important *now*? Is it merely because of its ancient history? I doubt that. What if there is some interplanetary communication equipment still operating there TODAY?

And one more point. We've all heard of government mind control and programming. They are putting programs in us. But think about it: where are the programs coming from? I'm a computer programmer by profession and know very well that programs need to be written by programmers and distributed, etc. What if the programs being beamed into our minds by the shadow government are being DOWNLOADED to Earth (from Alpha Draconis?) through the interplanetary radio link at Mt. Moriah in Jerusalem and then distributed further?

I have a lot more to say about that Sacred Spot on Mt. Moriah, but I will save the rest for my book. Stay tuned.
In your analysis, if the Illuminati are associated with the Anunnaki, they are the good guys.
Yes. I know this will be a great shocker to this whole community which generally sees the Illuminati as the root of all evil. This is one of the hardest to swallow bits of my research. That's why I don't like just dropping this on people; I want to ease it on through point-by-point reasoning and evidence in my book. But you sort of prodded it out of me. :-)
The conflict in Iraq has echoes of this ancient conflict between the Anunnaki and the Jehovah based religionists who are secretly a front for the Reptilians. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this.
I fully agree with you that the war in Iraq is an exo-political conflict. We independently reached the same conclusions. When the whole saber-rattling about Iraq was just starting, I realised from the get-go what was going on: "oh great, invasion of Sumer".

I was also very delighted to see your exopolitical comment about the downing of Space Shuttle Columbia on the eve of the invasion of Eden, accompanied by the Eye of Horus around the Sun. When I first heard about Columbia going down, I was quite delighted that the Anunnaki got at least some small revenge for the desecration and stomping of their holy land by the Yankees. That was my immediate reaction, seeing your exo-political comment was a pleasant confirmation later. You and I are probably the only two people on the planet who have made the connection between the downing of Columbia and the war in Iraq. And then also Columbia carried the first Israeli into space... Anunnaki weren't very pleased, and I understand them.

OK, it's time for me to drop another bombshell. Brace yourself. I believe Saddam Hussein was/is a good guy. All the bad things they say about him are reptilian propaganda. He dug up some ancient Anunnaki equipment and was able to reactivate it. He reestablished contact with Anunnaki and was trying to bring them back. That's why they wanted him out.

And just recently I heard on Coast to Coast that Saddam's lawyer argues for his client having a right to run in the Iraqi elections, and some poll showing that 42% of Iraqis want him back. Wouldn't it be great if the Iraqis elect him democratically? That would be a powerful message to the reptoids, we don't want Yahwists, Yankees and their lies here, we want our true gods and goddesses, the Anunnaki, and our legitimate President Saddam Hussein!
The problem then shifts from Reptilians per se, to hybrid human-Reptilians that comprises the Enki faction of the Anunnaki.
"Problem"? Enki is not a "problem"; he was a hero and a saint in my book! This is probably the area where I disagree with you and a number of other people who think of Anunnaki as controlling and manipulative.

It is true that Anu was very authoritarian, and his son Enlil (whose mother was Anu's wife and half-sister Antu, i.e., pure Anu race) was the same way. Enki was very different. His mother was one of Anu's concubines, who I believe was a Sirian queen or princess. So Enki was only half Anu race, the other half Sirian. His exo-politics was also totally different from Anu's. While the Enlilites indeed established an aristocratic social order in the civilisations under their control, and I have to agree that they were too controlling and undemocratic, I do not see a single shred of evidence of any such controlling behavior on Enki's part. Enki managed ancient Egypt, and note that all of celestial alignments in the pyramids point to Sirius and the belt stars of Orion, NOT to Rigel which is where I believe the planet of Anu came from (I'll explain this in my book).

Enki was NEVER interested in any manipulation and control of humans, and he was always interested in giving humans as much as possible in the way of civilisation, wisdom and spirituality. And his son Marduk even wanted to teach humans how to build rockets and go to space in 3500 BCE! (I'm talking about the Bab-Ili rocket launch tower of course.) After the nuclear holocaust of 2024 BCE Enki, risking his own life, went around in the radioactive fields of Shumer trying to use his scientific/magickal tricks to clean up the place as much as possible and to make plants grow again.
Now the final point I wish to make and where I feel we disagree is with the idea that the Anunnaki are our allies in freeing the earth from the Reptilians who use Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah as covers for their secret domination of Earth. As I see it, there are two ET factions who have historically competed for control of Earth. By choosing one faction over the other, presumably because it is genetically more human and has shown evidence or being more compassionate than the other, doesn't appear to be very transformative to me.
Yes, we disagree a little here. I don't believe that the Enki faction ever had any intent of domination and control, and therefore they ought to perfectly qualify as our true allies. As for the rest of the Anu clan, i.e., the Enlilites, they indeed had a few undesirable qualities, and I agree with you that we need to be careful with them. But I'm not saying that we should revert totally to the old ways and just bow down to them. We should welcome them as friends, but on new terms: as friends and not as overlords. But I don't think that the present-day descendants of Anunnaki, if they come into contact with us, would try to control us like they did before.

The exo-political situation now is totally different. We now have a common enemy, and defeating them is far more important than our petty differences. That is basically my main argument: we can't compare Anunnaki and reptiles side by side and say that they are just vying for control and one is no better than the other because they are incomparable. The Anunnaki weren't just "a little more compassionate to us"; we ARE them basically, and although yes, they did screwed up majorly a few times, those wounds can be healed and we can move forward together, but the dark forces of Yahweh are the enemy of Life itself. To use a Tolkien analogy (Lord of the Rings), the differences between us and Anunnaki are the little differences between humans, hobbits, elves and dwarves/gnomes, but Yahweh is Sauron and USA is Mordor.

(Speaking of Tolkien... I can't help but notice a striking similarity between his description of the elves and the Altairans... But of course like everything else, it's just a coincidence.)
I think we can look beyond these two factions for a solution and find the answer in other ET races that are not associated with either faction that are used to running the Earth. A number of contactees have spoken of ET races from Andromeda, Arcturus, Sirius A., Pleiades, etc., who are also here trying to assist humanity in its evolution.
Which brings us to my favourite slogan: Proletarians of all planets unite!

(It is of course derived from Karl Marx' famous "Proletarians of all counties, unite!", and yes, I am a Communist and I'll reveal some startling Soviet-Anunnaki connections in my book.)
However, I believe that even the Anunnaki cannot be fully trusted due to ingrained habits of control and elitism that would soon result in new institutions of power and control that would enslave/limit portions of humanity.
Yes, and I certainly don't suggest that we blindly entrust them with everything, but again I believe in giving them a second chance as friends rather than controllers, and I really believe that they have learned a lesson and will now know that it's much better to cooperate rather than control, and that in open cooperation we will be much stronger together and much more effective in fighting the forces of darkness.

Love & light and Blessed Be,

Michael Sokolov
Engineer / Researcher / Truth seeker / Freedom fighter
http://ivan.Harhan.ORG/~msokolov/
The Annunaki are not the Nephilim or the Fallen Angels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngJ-H7fjsAk

Pindar the Lizard King
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/pindar.htm
"Almost 6000 years ago" (4000 BCE) falls within the Chalcolithic (or Eneolithic) in Mesopotamia, which are currently the countries of Iraq and northeastern Syria. Notice it's Mesopotamia, because Sumerian was a language and Sumer was a culture. Sumerian disappeared as an official language during the Agadian (Akkadian) period (2371-2230 BCE).

"Almost 6000 years ago" coincides with the building of a very simple temple at Tepe Gawra. Ubaid culture evolved into the Warka (Uruk) culture; Warka culture provided the earliest sample of writing in Mesopotamia.

About 5500 years ago (3500 BCE) Sumerian-speaking people came out of the hills, settled along the Euphrates River, and built a large temple of mud brick at Eridu. Almost 5000 years ago (about 3000 BCE) Sumerian-speaking people added to existing structures to create monumental architecture (such as the White Temple in Kullaba and the temple at Eanna). They also began establishing city-states and urban areas.

The boundary of the cultures of Sumer and Agade, according to the Sumerian king-list, consisted of the area south of Baghdad defined by the Tigris, the Euphrates, and the Persian Gulf. Influence of these cultures extended to Ebla in the west, Nineveh in the north, and Susa (in Elam) in the east.

Unu (what Agadians called Uruk) was the largest of the urban areas in Mesopotamia around 3000 BCE, a total of 5.5 km2.

According to Zechariah Sitchin, who has written many books on the Sumerian tablets, the term "men of renown" in the Genesis passage should read, from its Sumerian origin, "men of the sky vehicles". This puts rather a different complexion on the whole story and makes a great deal more sense of it. The reference to "heroes of old" is also relevant.

The word hero comes from the Egyptian term, "heru, which, according to researcher Wallis Budge, was "applied to the king as a representative of the Sun God of Earth." The precise meaning was "a human being who was neither a god nor a daemon." The term has the inference of a crossbreed race.

The writer Homer (8th-9th century BC) wrote that "the heroes were exalted above the race of common men". The poet, Pindar, (518-438 BC) a very relevant name for readers of "The Biggest Secret" by David Icke - used the term, hero/heru, to describe a race "between gods and men". It is extremely likely that Horus or Haru, the Egyptian son of God and a mirror of the much later "Jesus" came from the term heru, which means the Sun God's representative on Earth, the hybrid or Aryan race. (p 72 - Children of the Matrix" by David Icke.)

We start with a ritual king who does not embody our conception of monarchic rule. While this tradition continues, we are also presented with an authoritarian ruler (the tyrant) who attempts to draw to himself the trappings of religious legitimization. Another important characteristic of tyrannical power is wealth.

In the Bible after the deception, God says that from then on, the serpent would have no legs and crawl around on his belly? Doesn't this imply that at the time the serpent DID have legs; it was a kind of like a reptoid?

Is there a race of reptoids co-existing with us? Is there a secret group running the world who worship a reptoid? Is it just one of many reptoids? Is it the leader of the reptoids? Is it a completely different being separate from those reptoids? Do those reptoids even exist? Is the reptoid race nothing more than Mankind's perceived evils personified into a form which is the personification of evil in the Bible? Is it the Bible which makes them Reptoid and not, say … arachnid?

So would Eden be real? Not in the literal sense, but an actual place that man was banished from because of these reptoids?

Pindar.......the lizard king

It is said that the garden of Eden was not on this planet and that we have been planted and the reptoid were our jailers.

On the subject of Reptoids and such, are any of you familiar with the statuettes from the Jarmo excavation? Reptilian people doing ordinary things, nursing babies, etc....and they also made them of regular people, so, combined with the ordinary activities they are depicted doing, not likely to be idols or anything of the sort....

It's 7000 BC actually, and in Iraq....so it’s probably largely destroyed by now. The stories about reptilian visitors extend from India, to Mexico, to China, back to North America, and Russia, and even many parts of Africa and South America. There are a lot of links to Jarmo and these lizard people and many other early cultures with similar traditions. The Jarmo statuettes are the closest thing to hard evidence. It goes without saying in a world full of skeptics any bits of hard evidence are priceless.

David Icke's Biggest Secret book has a photo of this statue. This one is also from Iraq, but from the Ubaid area. It appears to be a reptilian suckling one of its offspring. The Ubaid period was from 5500 - 4000 B.C.

A reptile statue was found in graves of the Ubaid people who lived in what is now Iraq up to around 4,000 BC. This culture predates the Venus cataclysm which probably forced the surviving reptilians underground or into another dimension.

Jarmo is an archeological site located in northern Iraq on the foothills of the Zagros Mountains. For a long time it was known as the oldest known agricultural community in the world, dating back to 7000 BC. It is also one of the oldest Neolithic village sites to be excavated. It was first found in 1940’s by the Iraqi Directorate of Antiquities, which later recommended the site to Robert Braidwood of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago. He had been asking about ancient villages in the Middle East for a study he was conducting. Under the Oriental Institute, Braidwood excavated the site at different times from March 1948 until June of 1955. He wanted to find out more about the origin of food production. The Jarmo archeological site was one of the first means of documentation for the way of life of civilization's first farmers and herders.

According to the Mothers of Darkness, the satanic cult based in Brussels, the Aryan bloodline is alien to this planet - they were a race fleeing the Reptiles and got here 4000 BC - then started mixing with the locals. They had red or blonde hair, blue eyes, and they may have been of great stature as recent excavations of the eight foot tall Firbolg Knights in Eire suggest.

Then, the Reptilian species, who have according to Giza plain mathematics came from the Serpens star cluster [serpens caput and serpens cauda both of 7 stars] arrived in 2000 BC and as record would have it infiltrated the Human race and its social structure and began the hybridisation experimentation. One of which was the foundation of the Merovingian Dynasty [born out of half man and half 'fish'].

There are 13 bloodlines from this kind of stock, and all of them have to a greater or lesser degree the capacity to play host to the Shape Changing Reptiles. This known shape shifting ability in human mythology goes back to North Africa, Tibet, Maya, Rome [called the versae pellis effect].

The Reptile species mission is to bring its ancestors [thought of as daemons] out of an abyss from which they cannot escape [Cthulu mythos, etc] and seek to open up a gate or portal (Yog Sothoth) to enable them to do so. For this, they need lots of pure Aryans.

The occult ritual and ceremony [satanic/druidic etc] they perform on Aryan sacrifices serves several purposes.

Because the Reptiles allegedly cannot call up their lost mates from the abyss, they need the magical/spiritual properties of the Aryans to do the ceremony for them. They turn up after a ritual has been rigourously followed and give their special team of shape changers in this dimension encouragement to carry on looking for ways to help the 'demons' escape from their abyss

The pineal gland or third eye in human terms is an alien piece of biochemistry in the human race. Any biochemistry text book will tell of its reptilian biochemistry so it leads us to wonder whether or not the Aryan Race was a phase 2 hybrid created by the Shape Changing reptiles so that they could colonise this sector of the '3' dimensional cosmos.

Reptiles need a pineal gland because they want its mystical powers, but it looks like they have been unable to integrate this organ into their own being as it gives access to dimensions of incredible energy and spiritual purity.

The Reptiles are trying to bring through the 'Old Ones' in fact as characterised by HP Lovecraft in 'the Dunwich Horror'.

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