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What produces consciousness?

What is a human being? What is life? Can science give us reliable answers to such questions? The electricity of life. The meaning of human consciousness. Are we alone? Are the traditional contests between science and religion still relevant? Does the word "spirit" still hold meaning today?

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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby StevenO » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:51 am

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Re: What produces consciousness?

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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:56 am

Steven,
Your materialist, reductionist viewpoint is leading you astray. :roll:
Darkness is not the absence of anything; darkness is the source of everything. :shock: When the darkness vibrates it causes light; when the stillness vibrates it causes sound.
Your photons et al are just avidya maya. There are no photons and there is no bucket to put them in. :lol: The pretty lights are beguiling you. :cry:
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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby StevenO » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:45 am

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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:57 pm

If I have the least bit of knowledge
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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby moses » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:31 pm

The past, whether ancient or not; whether drama-filled and catastrophic, whether glorious, or whether of the rather mundane, peaceful type is DEAD and gone. Let it go, say I. It's that simple. Not very exotic or entertaining or lucrative, maybe. But very liberating, imo and experience. Anything else, besides truly honoring the past by simply letting go of it (digging into the specifics and the [over] analyzing of it NOT required), to me borders on an unwholesome, morbid curiosity if not obsession. Been there, done that. No more, thank you.

The present moment is sufficient unto itself, is entirely whole, and lacks nothing -- if it is only recognized, allowed, and accepted.
arc-us


What you experienced in the past is affecting you now, in brain changes, in epigenetic changes, so the past is certainly not dead and gone, in that it influences us now. By going over the past, psychotherapeutically, those influences can be undone.
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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby StevenO » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:56 pm

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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby StevenO » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:31 am

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Re: What produces consciousness?

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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby StevenO » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:19 pm

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Re: What produces consciousness?

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Re: What produces consciousness?

Unread postby StevenO » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:31 am

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Rather Than: What produces consciousness?. . .

Unread postby StevenJay » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:38 pm

. . . I would ask: Without an echo - a reflection of some sort - could Consciousness know the essence of Its own existence? Or is that merely the perspective of the echo? :? ;)
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Re: Rather Than: What produces consciousness?. . .

Unread postby StevenO » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:18 pm

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Re: Rather Than: What produces consciousness?. . .

Unread postby cherokeeroots » Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:27 am

"The power of the world always works in circles"

Black Elk 1863-1950

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.

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