Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Collapsing

[solrey]

Conspiracy...it's not just theory.
Finally, a scientific analysis concluding that very few persons control the world's money supply, finance and industry, something many of us have known for a long time.

National Security Alert, a new 81 min. video of a recently concluded investigation into the events at the Pentagon, focusing on eyewitness accounts describing how the flight path they saw differs from the "official" version.

[GaryN]

One I hadn't seen before. Huge beam bent like a horseshoe, no cracks or distortion. There were other beams with even tighter bends. That is not done by heat alone, no matter how much thermite/mate you have. This can only be achieved with the magnetic field from an EMP device, probably micro-nuke powered. There were also vehicles up to half a Km away that had the strangest melting of various metal parts, including a fire engine with a melted engine block. Bin Laden and his cave buddies were pretty smart, no?

[StevenJay]

Huge beam bent like a horseshoe, no cracks or distortion. There were other beams with even tighter bends. That is not done by heat alone, no matter how much thermite/mate you have. This can only be achieved with the magnetic field from an EMP device, probably micro-nuke powered. There were also vehicles up to half a Km away that had the strangest melting of various metal parts, including a fire engine with a melted engine block.

Unless the loonies playing with the really expensive toys have figured out how to contain and direct the force of a nuke event of any size, that whole scenario doesn't make much sense to me. As far as the location of the selectively-melted vehicles, it's been said that they were towed there early on to simply get them "out of the way." Nevertheless, the apparently highly "selective" melting and fire damage to many vehicles, mostly in nearby parking lots (as well as the talcum powder consistency of most of the concrete in the wreckage of the two towers), is still very curious. . . almost the sort of thing one might expect from an immense (by human standards) plasma discharge event of some sort.

[Orlando]

I always wondered what over 1billion watts concentrated in a Particle beam could do, imagine microwaving and resonate tuning the Iron skeleton in a building fixed at the base almost like a huge tuning fork.

Funny how Tesla almost took a building down with a 3 ft tall mechanical oscilator.

How Naive to think that this type of technology was put on a shelf so to speak, reminds me of some cross referencing I did with Teslas early aurora experiments and the Tunguska event.

Interesting these coincidences are.

Peace
Or

[junglelord]

Funny how Tesla almost took a building down with a 3 ft tall mechanical oscilator.

How Naive to think that this type of technology was put on a shelf so to speak, reminds me of some cross referencing I did with Teslas early aurora experiments and the Tunguska event.

Tesla possible did make Tunguska with the Wardenclyff Tower, Tom Bearden even says that it is quite possible based on the timeline, that indeed the world's largest phase conjugate scalar system created this explosive event.

[seasmith]

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Well we just watched the two hour premier of the 911 Conspiracy documentary on the National Geographic channel. They gave ample time and opportunity to the people on both sides of the debate; and showed clips from the independent film called "Loose Change".

While no actual "conspiracies" were exposed, the mind-set and motives of 'conspiracy theorists' were.

I would recommend the documentary for it's even-handedness and scientific/professional opinions;
on both sides.

s

[junglelord]

Its a joke, the worlds largest crime scene, cleaned up, taken away to china,
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html

body parts buried on city streets,
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/ ... holes.html

clean up crews with cancer and no coverage....
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... -easy.html

given that nanothermite is a positive,

Distinguished Canadians Call for a New 9/11 Investigation
http://www.infowars.com/distinguished-c ... stigation/
http://www.911truth.ca/

July 24/2009
We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.
http://www.ottawa911truth.com/main/

Full Report from The Open Chemical Physics Journal
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/conte ... 7TOCPJ.SGM

did they mention that on the show?>
NO THEY DID NOT

so was it a good show telling the truth?

~

I would recommend the documentary for it's even-handedness and scientific/professional opinions;
on both sides.

s

and are there two sides to the truth?
yeah no conspiracy at all, a fair show giving two sides of the truth....

[seasmith]

~red/gray chips

jungle lord wrote:

did they mention that on the show?>
NO THEY DID NOT

Yes they did too,
several times.

[junglelord]

My apolgies, you made no mention of that in your post, so I thought that they left it out. I am sorry for that, and glad that they did mention it several times....so what was their conclusion?

[junglelord]

So I am still waiting on how they can have a tv show, point out that nanothermite is on the scene and then have a ambiguous finish????


The quotes below are all taken from this web page
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
http://www.ae911truth.org/?PHPSESSID=ab ... e739eba64c

Explosives Found in
World Trade Center Dust
Scientists Discover Both Residues
And Unignited Fragments
Of Nano-Engineered Thermitic Pyrotechnics
In Debris From the Twin Towers
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/ther ... idues.html

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/conte ... 7TOCPJ.SGM

Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence
for energetic materials

Investigators monitoring air quality at the
World Trade Center, after the September 11th attacks,
found extremely high levels of volatile organic chemicals
as well as unusual species that had never been seen before
in structure fires. Data collected by the U.S. Environmental
Protection Agency indicate striking spikes in levels of
benzene, styrene, and several other products of combustion.
These spikes occurred on specific dates in October
and November 2001, and February 2002. Additionally,
data collected by researchers at the University of California
Davis showed similar spikes in the levels of sulfur and
silicon compounds, and certain metals, in aerosols. To
better explain these data, as well as the unusual detection of
1,3-diphenylpropane, the presence of energetic nanocomposites
in the pile at Ground Zero is hypothesized.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67 ... lltext.pdf

[StevenJay]

You must remember, JL, that we're living in a cartoon world now. So, the usual rules of logical engagement no longer apply (but cartoon-like "magic" does).

We're on a "run-away train" with no engineer - only an endless list of impostors who claim to be "in control." But in its truly controlled closed-loop form, we recreate this experience-within-an-experience, place it in an "amusement" park, and call it a "roller coaster". . . or, in another application, "mainstream media."

Sentient life = experiential amusement. And whatever "growth" that occurs is, I feel, incidental. In other words, we may incarnate here for the ultimate purpose of spiritual growth and expansion. But once here, that agenda becomes secondary to the actual experience itself.

I admit that may not have made much sense. Plus, I'm wandering way off track here anyway, so. . .

[Lloyd]

JL: Tesla possible did make Tunguska with the Wardenclyff Tower, Tom Bearden even says that it is quite possible based on the timeline, that indeed the world's largest phase conjugate scalar system created this explosive event.

* Which of Bearden's ideas pan out? I'm skeptical of "scalar" forces. They're more likely electrical forces and Bearden's too dense to imagine that. Which of the Tunguska data are not explained by this TPOD & others? http://thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch ... nguska.htm . As for the horseshoe-shaped beam, if it was really found in the 9/11 debris, could it not have been bent in some other way than by "scalar" forces? Might it not have been shaped that way when the towers were built? And could not an engine block have been melted some other way, such as by thermate, etc? If "scalar" tech was used, would it not have affected the people, plants and objects on the scene as well as vehicles? I think you're tending to jump to conclusions, when you mention scalar stuff as causative of the disaster. Covert ops are always possible, but we don't even have proof that most of them exist, besides HAARP etc. Has Bearden produced or copied any "scalar" technology that works?

[GaryN]

Lloyd asked:

As for the horseshoe-shaped beam, if it was really found in the 9/11 debris, could it not have been bent in some other way than by "scalar" forces? Might it not have been shaped that way when the towers were built? And could not an engine block have been melted some other way, such as by thermate, etc? If "scalar" tech was used, would it not have affected the people, plants and objects on the scene as well as vehicles?

There is nothing in any of the WTC building plans that shows such a horseshoe shaped beam. Even if such a beam were heated to a workable temperature by thermal energies, the inside radius would buckle, and the outside radius would crack. Induction heating only works up to the Curie temperature, 700C, any higher would be due to Eddie currents. The beam does not display the scaling that would be produced at higher temperatures. At many frequencies, humans would not be harmed. Tesla was around many strong EM fields, and the only thing that seems to have been affected was his mind.
The odd, random melting of metals in the area is explained in my view by the erratic shape of EM fields once harmonics due to high power levels are introduced. Long, thin spikes can emerge from a normally spherical or eliptical field.

[Grey Cloud]

What evidence do you have that this beam came from the WTC? The guy in the photo doesn't look like he's dressed for NYC in September or later. Neither does the sky.
In fact, it doesn't even look like a beam but rather some sort of circular dingus.

[GaryN]

Hi GC,
Jump to 3:50 to get to the molten stuff. You are correct though, I shouldn't trust blindly in ANY internet info. This looks genuine, but I would like to see the beams with my own eyes for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9nE372Ymc4