$Billions Sucked into Black Holes - Science in the Present

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$Billions Sucked into Black Holes - Science in the Present

Unread post by davesmith_au » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:36 am

13 March, 2009 ~ Dr. Jeremy Dunning-Davies

As more and more money is being requested for scientific experiments which are becoming more and more elaborate, it becomes increasingly important to attempt to explain the basic theory behind the work involved to those who, in the end, pay the bill - YOU - the members of the general public.[More...]
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Re: $Billions Sucked into Black Holes - Science in the Present

Unread post by davesmith_au » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:39 am

This is one of our most significant Thunderblogs yet. To have Electric Universe theory receiving support from such qualified physicists as Dr. Dunning-Davies is a great boost to our cause. "You've got my vote, Jeremy!"

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Re: $Billions Sucked into Black Holes - Science in the Present

Unread post by MGmirkin » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:59 am

Jeremy Dunning-Davies wrote:Science should be studied with a totally open mind and any advances should be examined in a like manner. Surely the aim of any scientific investigation is to seek the truth?

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In the meantime, the dissemination of scientific information to the public must be totally honest and open. Where several theories exist, that fact must be openly acknowledged with no thought for protecting vested interests of any sort.
I am reminded of a quote by J. Robert Oppenheimer:
Oppenheimer wrote:There must be no barriers to freedom of inquiry ... There is no place for dogma in science. The scientist is free, and must be free to ask any question, to doubt any assertion, to seek for any evidence, to correct any errors ... We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it and that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. And we know that as long as men are free to ask what they must, free to say what they think, free to think what they will, freedom can never be lost, and science can never regress.
Quite prescient and apropos, in my opinion...

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Re: $Billions Sucked into Black Holes - Science in the Present

Unread post by Michael Noonan » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:03 am

But is the experiment safe? Experimentation within known safety limits allows for knowledge to advance. From a better known base there is more certainty. For Electric Universe theorists Galaxy Filaments from work in 2006 show a highly connected universe. A bit down the page is the usual star mapping without the dark matter pathways.

The problem I have with the exercise is that all the forces and fields are two dimensional at the molecular level. It means the components that make us do not experience the universe in the same way we do. The synergy of being a collection of atoms gives us the ability to experience volume. It may be that a simple mistake of what we take for granted does not exist at the energies and scales being experimented.

Take the well known refute of the Einstein-Rosen bridge and clearly the left side of the equation could be applied to a two dimension system. The right side is a tensor three dimension solution incapable of reducing a sphere to a near point amount. It is the basic division by zero error. In the case that it allows for 'almost' zero transfer consider that it takes a neutron around 15 minutes to acquire the charge to become a proton. That in atomic scales from femto second electron activity to real time 15 minute decay would require an almost zero transfer conduit.

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