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Hollow Moon

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby allynh » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:38 pm

In my journeys I stumbled across this website:

Hollow Planets
http://www.hollowplanets.com/

He has come up with a theory showing that the earth is hollow, and he uses earthquake data showing why.

Here is the summary of what he found.

Hollow Planet Seismology Vs Solid Earth Seismology
http://www.hollowplanets.com/journal/Seismic01.asp

He has a book out, I'll let you know when I read it.

Have fun.
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby GaryN » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:40 am

In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby allynh » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:06 pm

One of the few Nova programs I bought is:

Magnetic Storm
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/

The transcript is at:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcript ... netic.html

The level of what we do not know about the earth's magnetic field is deeply disturbing. Notice in the transcript how they try to minimize the apparent risks, basically saying, "Don't worry." They make that same point in the final page of the article you posted.

I want to know, because we can't afford not to worry about what is happening right beneath our feet.
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby redeye » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:12 am

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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby redeye » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:59 am

And, whilst I'm on the subject of weird geological stuff that I can't get my head around.





I believe that volcanism is merely a mechanism for moving charge from deep inside the Earth to the surface. Could these subsurface lodes be created as charge is flowing in the opposite direction, using water as the charge carrier.

And could this process be reversed. If these lodes of water were to rise up and innundate the surface we could be looking at a sea level rise measured in kilometers.

Or are they even lodes of water? What else could return these results?



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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby moses » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:42 pm

I'd been thinking about magnetic field reversals and what could actually cause something that could affect the entire planet. If the Earth was ejected from Saturn, it must have left Saturn's magnetosphere at some point, could this have caused the messed up magnetic field history.
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The last magnetic field flip took around 3000 years and it was a long, drawn out process. The field didn't just suddenly flip, it fluctuated, growing and receding, sometimes dissapearing altogether. Could this process have been caused by Earth spiralling out of Saturn's influence?

The Earth's magnetic field was produced by the electric current that flowed
past and through Earth whilst in the Saturn System. So magnetic field flips
were probably the result of either a change in direction of this electric current
or a whole flip of the Earth. The description of a flip as a long process is
typical mainstream. Indeed, I believe that the Earth flipped as the Saturn
System broke up, and so the volcanoes going off at this time would have
been magnetised in changing strength and direction. The major magnetic
influence in the Saturn System would have been the passing electric current,
whereas nowadays the remnant magnetism induced in the Earth by
this electric current, is the main producer of the Earth's electric field.
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby allynh » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:32 pm

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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby Brigit Bara » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:44 pm

With regard to the hollow moon, I have a news article about "changes in the brightness and color over small areas of the moon's surface, known as Transient Lunar Phenomena, or TLP." The scientists wanted to take more measurements, as the areas where TLPs were usually sighted coincided with areas of lunar outgasing.

"It is likely that the ghostly and fleeting TLP could be a manifestation of inert gases such as radon and argon being released from within the moon due to radioactive decay of uranium-238 and potassium K-40.
Moonquakes would seem a likely candidate for triggering the release of these gases but no correlation between TLP and moonquakes was found by Crotts."

(I forgot to keep the link but I am sure you can search the whole article yourself pretty easily.)

In EU theory, the Moonquakes would be lightning within the moon, right?

I also recall reading that the moon rings, like a bell. But the website was kind of loony.
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby Brigit Bara » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:59 pm

Also, I was going through my old news stories and doing follow up, and came across "Scientists to Study Earth's 'Gaping Wound' Deep Under Atlantic Wednesday, March 07, 2007
By Ker Than"

This was the area in the Mid Atlantic Ridge where it was not being filled in by new sea-bed material, so there is an extremely deep gash in the bottom of the sea. It is up off of the coast of South America.

They had a lot of equipment problems and the drill broke, but they had some good dredging results. I found this in the daily journal:

"Cruise diary
Day 20: Saturday 24 March
Sampling area: TOBI survey
Bramley writes:
Far below the floor of the Atlantic Ocean, deep within the Earth’s crust, a spark of pale-blue light flickers into life, then fades slowly away. Then another. And another. Until they form a glimmering constellation. Each minute flash, the result of individual crystals that are straining and cracking under enormous stress. A swarm of small earthquakes follows and are the first harbingers of the cataclysmic events that will conclude with the exposure of the Earth’s mantle on the abyssal ocean floor."

I found it hard to tell if he was recording something he saw; but it seems like he is. Is anyone else thinking of lighning in his description?

They ended up finding a lot of diamonds down there. They left the site pretty quickly and then went right back out again to another area of the ridge.

PS allynh, I won't be turning on my porchlight for a week! ;)
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby allynh » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:35 pm

I did a search for "Transient Lunar Phenomena, or TLP" and found a and a that talks about it in EU terms. The moon ringing like a bell has been mentioned since the Apollo days. The fact that there are deep gashes in the ocean floor like that is scary. All this stuff sounds like it comes straight out of a Japanese Godizilla movie, yet it appears to be real.

That's what makes all this stuff so fun, it has been sitting there in plain sight all these years and we never saw it because of how we "choose" to see things. I look at all the science books I have on my shelves, all the new books that are coming out, and I start arguing with them, when I never did that before. I love that!

I just picked up a beautiful science picture book from Borders' remainder shelves, The illustrated Atlas of the Universe by Mark A. Garlick. I got it because it shows today's "consensus reality"; a beautiful book. I can see where they are right, and I can see where they totally missed what appears to be so obvious when seen through the EU/plasma cosmology paradigm. I would love to take the book apart and show the EU explanation side by side. Show that there are other ways that explain things better.

When I try to explain this stuff to my friends they say, "Yes, I understand that you believe all that stuff, but we need to stay with what everyone else knows to be true when we discuss reality." I just laugh.
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby Brigit Bara » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:59 pm

I am a refugee from "consensus reality" too!

Although, it is hard to be ready for the answers EU Theory provides. It is shocking...I suppose it's the same kind of thrill you get any other time you defy gravity!

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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby kevin » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:01 am

Allynh,
"I just laugh"
Welcome to the dowsers world.
People are comfortable in a reality they feel that they know, and are marsters of, they will ---BURN THE WITCH---
or save you by imposing their picture of reality upon you, bring their book of religious order for you to follow etc etc.
If your with them, in their team, then fine, otherwise they will kill You, you will be seen as a terrorist to their ideas.

You have to develop a kind of water off a ducks back attitude, there must be a true reality, a method and measure to it, all else is illusion, once you glimpse that true reality, you're down in a rabbit hole, in darkness , as far as most people are concerned, don't worry, just trust your instincts, and forget fear, there is only fear , to fear.
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby GaryN » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:52 pm

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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby allynh » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:28 pm

You are right. Until we have a real network of sensors spread across the moon, allowing us to do high resolution tomography, any report like that is just noise, and the picture is fantasy.
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Re: Hollow Moon

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:07 am

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