Plasmoids Wreak Havoc in Tornado Alley!

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Re: Plasmoids Wreak Havoc in Tornado Alley!

Unread postby rennurerof » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:44 pm

Tesla Demo 1892: Brush Discharge

Might Be of Some Interest:

by Nikola Tesla
Delivered before the Institution of Electrical Engineers, London, February 1892.

... here is a form of discharge of a coil, the primary current of which is vibrating several hundred thousand times per second. The discharge of an ordinary coil appears as a simple line or band of light. The discharge of this coil appears in the form of powerful brushes and luminous streams issuing from all points of the two straight wires attached to the terminals of the secondary (Fig. 1.)

When a coil is operated with currents of very high frequency, beautiful brush effects may be produced, even if the coil be of comparatively small dimensions. The experimenter may vary them in many ways, and, if it were nothing else, they afford a pleasing sight. What adds to their interest is that they may be produced with one single terminal as well as with two—in fact, often better with one than with two.

In trials of this kind the experimenter arrives at the startling conclusion that, to pass ordinary luminous discharges through gases, no particular degree of exhaustion is needed, but that the gas may be at ordinary or even greater pressure. To accomplish this, a very high frequency is essential; a high potential is likewise required, but this is a merely incidental necessity...

Such discharges of very high frequency, which render luminous the air at ordinary pressures, we have probably often occasion to witness in Nature...

When an ordinary low frequency discharge is passed through moderately rarefied air, the air assumes a purplish hue. If by some means or other we increase the intensity of the molecular, or atomic, vibration, the gas changes to a white color. A similar change occurs at ordinary pressures with electric impulses of very high frequency. If the molecules of the air around a wire are moderately agitated, the brush formed is reddish or violet; if the vibration is rendered sufficiently intense, the streams become white...

(There is a lot more of course)

Re: Plasmoids Wreak Havoc in Tornado Alley!

Unread postby Vinyasi » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:21 pm

CharlesChandler wrote:Osmosis: To quote from the following source:

Heene, R., Stevens, R., and Slusser, B., 2008: Electromagnetic Fields Recorded in Mesocyclones. National Weather Digest, July 2008, 32:1, 35-44.

Brook (1967) also mentioned one instance where a tornado was detected at a distance of 150km by using a magnetometer, but that more observations were needed to confirm that such large charges actually occur with tornadoes.

The measurements that Heene got under one supercell were showing a fluctuation from 164 milligauss up to 200 milligauss as the storm passed overhead. There are some other data, and there is no conventional explanation for any of it, though to my knowledge, a thorough and systematic study, with an array of instruments and involving a number of different storms, including tornadic supercells, has not been done.

biknewb: The blue light was probably emissions from nitrogen atoms ionized by the strong electric field. This has been reported many times. Small-scale arc discharges within the wall of the tornado have also been reported many times, and indeed are further evidence of powerful charges.


From what I've learned studying the ammonia/hydrogen model of Aaron Murakami...

...and the sixteenth chapter of...

Hitler's Suppressed and Still-Secret Weapons, Science and Technology
by Henry Stevens

...describing the Nazi's use of the air fuel bomb, leads me to believe that both are describing the same phenomena. Namely, that a strong positive ionization dissolves the triple bond of dinitrogen making it more feasible to reform mono-atomic nitrogen into ammonia, hydrazine, etc., and set it off with the help of nascent hydrogen (in the case of Stanley Meyer's so-called water fueled dune buggy), or ignited with the help of nano-carbon (in the case of a Nazi air-fuel bomb). But in both cases, the augmented force is derived from the inclusion of non-inert, mono-atomic nitrogen.

Herman Anderson made it no secret that he used 70,000 volts of positive ionization to run his car for thirty years on water. ... C000+volts

It doesn't take much ingenuity to figure out at some point that hydrogen alone won't do more than merely idle an engine. It needs more spunk than that to accelerate up an incline for any length of time. Even the Greek inventor, Peter Painter, bubbles his gaseous output through a tank of water to satisfy the 1807 finding of Sir Humphrey Davy that: "electrolytic hydrogen will bind with nitrogen in the presence of water when normal hydrogen will not". ... afos+water ... 2#post6532

So, I propose that "biknewb: The blue light was probably emissions from nitrogen atoms ionized by the strong electric field" is a byproduct which could also yield a powerful explosive force in addition to everything else contributing to the structure of a tornado.
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