LIGO detected not the gravity wave but the SLF wave

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LIGO detected not the gravity wave but the SLF wave

Unread postby ja7tdo » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:09 pm

translation by google from my blog in Japanese.
https://translate.google.co.jp/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fzao.jp%2Findex.php%3Fblog%3D12&edit-text=

Researchers who detect gravitational waves receive the Nobel Prize, and there is atmosphere that seems to have gravity waves surely. However, from the eyes of amateur radio HAM, the detection of gravitational waves is a perfect misunderstanding. Because LIGO's laser detector is the same principle as a detector that detects radio waves using the same laser.

http://www.nbi.ku.dk/english/news/news1 ... th-lasers/

Most people think that radio waves come in as electric signals from the antenna. However, the laser detector developed by Niels Boer Laboratories in Germany captures radio signals as vibration.
In ordinary receivers, electric waves are once converted into electric signals, amplified by a semiconductor, and detected. However, the laser detector detects the phenomenon that radio waves vibrate the metal foil as vibration as it is.
The radio wave signal led to the capacitor causes the metal foil of the capacitor to vibrate. By applying a laser to a metal foil and comparing it with the reference light, it is possible to pick up the signal very sensitively.
This system is almost the same as the LIGO system to capture gravitational waves. In the case of LIGO, an arm for detecting underground is placed to shield radio waves. I did not mention it in the commentary, but I will also have given ground (earth). It is to avoid the influence of electromagnetic waves.
However, the electromagnetic waves around 100 Hz that LIGO is about to detect are called SLF, and it is an extremely long wave 30Hz to 300Hz. It is known that SLF is a wavelength which is very difficult to shield. Since the VLF above the SLF is transmitted even underwater, it is used for communication of submarines. Also, amateur radio studies have found that it also propagates through the ground. There are also attempts to predict an earthquake by receiving SLF from the crust.
That is, radio waves around 100 Hz can not be shielded and directly impart vibration to the object. LIGO's 4 km arm is a bad sensitivity antenna. Because it is electromagnetic waves that we were able to observe the same waveform at two places.
The same can be said for KAGRA in Japan.
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Re: LIGO detected not the gravity wave but the SLF wave

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:57 am

ja7tdo wrote:That is, radio waves around 100 Hz can not be shielded and directly impart vibration to the object. LIGO's 4 km arm is a bad sensitivity antenna. Because it is electromagnetic waves that we were able to observe the same waveform at two places.

Yes. That is certainly possible.
And the frequencies are to low and the signal to weak to be detected by the other instruments.
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Re: LIGO detected not the gravity wave but the SLF wave

Unread postby crawler » Sat May 04, 2019 1:54 am

Zyxzevn wrote:
ja7tdo wrote:That is, radio waves around 100 Hz can not be shielded and directly impart vibration to the object. LIGO's 4 km arm is a bad sensitivity antenna. Because it is electromagnetic waves that we were able to observe the same waveform at two places.

Yes. That is certainly possible.
And the frequencies are to low and the signal to weak to be detected by the other instruments.
What does an SLF do.............................
Does it shorten -- the tube -- the distance tween mirrors -- the laser body -- the laser beam wave?
Does the SLF slow the laser beam?
Does the SLF vibrate the mirrors?
In other words how does Ligo work like an antenna (for SLF waves)?
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Re: LIGO detected not the gravity wave but the SLF wave

Unread postby ja7tdo » Sat May 04, 2019 2:34 am

crawler wrote:
Zyxzevn wrote:
ja7tdo wrote:That is, radio waves around 100 Hz can not be shielded and directly impart vibration to the object. LIGO's 4 km arm is a bad sensitivity antenna. Because it is electromagnetic waves that we were able to observe the same waveform at two places.

Yes. That is certainly possible.
And the frequencies are to low and the signal to weak to be detected by the other instruments.
What does an SLF do.............................
Does it shorten -- the tube -- the distance tween mirrors -- the laser body -- the laser beam wave?
Does the SLF slow the laser beam?
Does the SLF vibrate the mirrors?
In other words how does Ligo work like an antenna (for SLF waves)?


The same problem has been pointed out for the gravity wave detector that is scheduled to be built in Japan.
please read this paper by using google translator.

http://www.gravity.ircs.titech.ac.jp/do ... Thesis.pdf

The issue is how to escape the influence of Schumann resonance.
Both LIGO and Kagura can only process the detected signal with a digital filter.
This is because SLF and ELF go through even a few hundred kilometers thick rock.
Gravitational waves do not exist in principle.
please read my articles.

https://etherealmatters.org/article/com ... hs-gravity
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Re: LIGO detected not the gravity wave but the SLF wave

Unread postby crawler » Sat May 04, 2019 6:35 am

ja7tdo wrote:
crawler wrote:
Zyxzevn wrote:
ja7tdo wrote:That is, radio waves around 100 Hz can not be shielded and directly impart vibration to the object. LIGO's 4 km arm is a bad sensitivity antenna. Because it is electromagnetic waves that we were able to observe the same waveform at two places.

Yes. That is certainly possible.
And the frequencies are to low and the signal to weak to be detected by the other instruments.
What does an SLF do.............................
Does it shorten -- the tube -- the distance tween mirrors -- the laser body -- the laser beam wave?
Does the SLF slow the laser beam?
Does the SLF vibrate the mirrors?
In other words how does Ligo work like an antenna (for SLF waves)?


The same problem has been pointed out for the gravity wave detector that is scheduled to be built in Japan.
please read this paper by using google translator.

http://www.gravity.ircs.titech.ac.jp/do ... Thesis.pdf

The issue is how to escape the influence of Schumann resonance.
Both LIGO and Kagura can only process the detected signal with a digital filter.
This is because SLF and ELF go through even a few hundred kilometers thick rock.
Gravitational waves do not exist in principle.
please read my articles.

https://etherealmatters.org/article/com ... hs-gravity
I couldnt click on the English translation command for the thesis because it was non-active.
I think the theory is that lightning starts it off, & the em radiation interacts with free electrons 275 km down in Earth's crust, & then there is a 7.8 Hz resonance of SLF due to the circumference of Earth at that radius, called Schumann resonance, & this causes gravity on Earth, which gives faux GWs at Ligo.

I think the theory is that the SLF resonance causes a real GW, hencely the SLF doesnt have any direct effect, but the resonance of the SLF gives gravity & it is the gravity (waves) that give a signal at Ligo in accordance with the standard Ligo antenna theory. Hencely it is not em radiation affecting Ligo, it is em radiation resonance (via the resulting GW).

Why dont other em radiations give a resonance, & gravity, & a GW?
I suppose that they are not reflected from the ionosphere.

What is the speed of an SLF through Earth's crust. It must be c/n -- what is the value of n?

Could a Schumann resonance wave travel diametrically throo Earth & affect Ligo in that way?
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