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Re: Professional misconduct with respect to public EU/PC hat

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:02 pm

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Re: Professional misconduct with respect to public EU/PC hat

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Just-so Lazy And Unprofessional

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:12 am

https://briankoberlein.com/2018/01/27/just-so-story/

Just-so lazy…

Well, it looks like lying Brian Koberlein finally blinked as it relates to EU/PC solar neutrino predictions, four years too late to be considered “professional”, but his lies, his unethical behaviors, and his misrepresentations of EU/PC solar models still continue unabated. Koberlein starts his unethical and unprofessional behavior in his new blog entry by first comparing the EU/PC model to a flat Earth theory, Niribu claims, and the book/movie “Chariot of the Gods”. More unethical behavior from the start. He makes no mention of Birkeland's work or Alfven's work of course.

Koberlein continues to unprofessionally blame poor Findlay for his own laziness like a child who blames his dog for eating his homework. Koberlein specifically mentioned two other books in his original blog entry which were written by Thornhill and Scott, both of which mention neutrinos which vary with sunspot activity. Both books are *very* clear about predicting neutrinos coming from the sun, and both authors predict that neutrinos are variable with the solar cycle. Koberlein claimed to be discussing Thornhill’s model in his original blog entry, not Findlay’s model, but Koberlein still isn’t man enough to simply admit his own laziness and just admit his own mistakes. Instead he continues to misrepresent the meaning of Findlay’s statements, and he continues to unethically blame Findlay for his own unprofessional nonsense. The childish lack of professionalism hasn’t changed one iota. Lying Brian continues to flat out lie in his new blog entry when he erroneously and unethically claims that: “ ….Findlay clearly claims fusion doesn’t occur at all”. Bullshit! Just like in his first blog entry on this topic, Koberlein cites no specific quote from Findlay which explicitly states any such thing. He lists just one quote from Findlay that states that stars are powered by electrical current which of course does *not* preclude fusion in the solar atmosphere, and it is *not* the same thing as claiming that “fusion doesn’t occur *at all*” as Koberlein falsely asserts. Lying Brian continues to flat out lie through his teeth and he continues to unprofessionally blame Findlay for his own previous lies, just like he did in his first blog entry on this topic. Koberlein was caught red hand lying about neutrino predictions that Findlay, Scott and Thornhill never made, so he simply lies some more to justify his original lies. What an unethical putz.

Koberlein’s false statements continue: “To my best current understanding, some EU models say fusion doesn’t occur at all….”. No, that’s not the “best of your knowledge” lying Brian, because Findlay never made any such a claim in the reference that you cited or anywhere else in that whole PDF. Claiming that the sun is powered by electrical current isn’t the same thing a claiming that no fusion takes place at all. Koberlein's “best knowledge’ turns out to be another blatant lie, or it demonstrates his own gross negligence, gross incompetence and pure ignorance.

Since he’s finally (four year later) forced to admit that Thornhill’s book and Scott’s book *do* in fact predict neutrinos, which vary with the solar cycle, he takes a new approach to “debunking” and misrepresenting EU/PC theory using oversimplified claims about gamma rays. Z-pinch processes can and do occur *throughout* the sun, and the bulk of neutrino emitting processes would necessarily occur *under* the surface of the photosphere, where any gamma ray emissions would quickly be absorbed and would not necessarily ever leave the surface of the photosphere. The gamma rays would be absorbed by the photosphere and generate heat that would result in a *thermal* spectrum from the photosphere just like the standard solar model. Instead of *trying to understand* the model correctly and present Thornhill's model fairly to the public, Koberlein is still desperately trying to *misrepresent* the facts. Continuing to compare the solar spectrum to a florescent light bulb is another obvious example of this unethical and ignorant behavior since the temperature of the surface of the photosphere in EU/PC solar models is identical to the mainstream model. It would necessarily therefore emit a *thermal* spectrum that is inconsistent with a florescent light bulb and which is consistent with solar observations. Sheesh.

Koberlein also attempts to try to use the observation of limb darkening to insist that this observation of limb darkening demonstrates that deeper layers of the sun are necessarily “hotter” than the outer surface. This is a false premise. The sun’s limb appears to be darker because it’s made of thinner, less light emitting plasma compared to the sun as a whole. The plasma along the limb is also actually a little further away from Earth than the plasma in the middle of the sun so the inverse square law would also therefore apply and it contributes a little to the limb darkening effect.

Apparently Koberlein expects some sort of credit for *finally* coming clean over the neutrino issue (sort of), in a backhand manner, four years too late, while continuing to misrepresent the model. He also fails to mention that his own precious standard model has already been falsified. The convection predictions of the standard solar model were shown by SDO measurements to be two whole orders of magnitude slower than “predicted” by the standard model. If we used Koberlein’s same ‘debunking’ mentality, we should certainly toss out the mainstream solar model because it’s predictions fail to match observation.

A ‘professional’ scientist would simply have admitted their obvious mistakes *years* ago, and they would have made some attempt to properly present the model this time around. Koberlein however did no such thing. He’s four years too late, and he’s not man enough to admit his own mistakes. Instead of misrepresenting the neutrino predictions this time, he misrepresents the gamma ray predictions of EU/PC theory instead. In short, lying Brian simply trades one set of lies for another. It’s the very same unprofessional and unethical dance, just a different tune. Koberlein’s behavior is still totally unprofessional and utterly pathetic.
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Your consistent misrepresentation of facts...

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The inherent danger in professional incompetence/misconduct.

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Re: Professional misconduct with respect to public EU/PC hat

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Re: Professional misconduct with respect to public EU/PC hat

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Re: Professional misconduct with respect to public EU/PC hat

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Re: Professional misconduct with respect to public EU/PC hat

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:40 pm

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Neutrino hypocrisy

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:59 am

It's really amusing watching the EU/PC hater posse try to use neutrino measurements to "debunk" EU/PC models. First Koberlein erroneous claimed that EU/PC solar models predict "no neutrinos' in spite of the fact that Jeurgens produced a solar model to explain why there were *fewer* of them, not *zero* of them. No EU/PC solar model *ever* predicted "no neutrinos", not even Juergen's original proposal.

EU/PC models have of course been updated as the 'neutrino deficit' issue was eventually explained *decades* after it was first noted. In spite of ignoring that neutrino deficit issue for *decades*, now they're handwaving around a paper about P-P fusion supposedly producing all the observed neutrinos based on core fusion processes, and they are claiming that EU/PC proponents are instantly required to agree with their assessment and instantly dismiss all EU/PC solar models, in spite of the fact that at least two EU/PC solar models (Birkeland/Alfven) *do* predict fusion in the core. EU/PC solar models may not *all* predict fusion in the core, but some of them certainly do. Even if their assessment of core fusion is accurate, it in no way eliminates *all* proposed EU/PC solar models. Now of course they never produced a paper that clearly demonstrates that fusion near the surface *cannot* produce the same output they simply handwaved in that claim like they handwaved in the "no neutrino" nonsense.

We're evidently supposed to just ignore the fact they're reduced to yet *another* bogus and handwavy claim about gamma radiation falsifying EU/PC solar models when no EU/PC solar model predicts an excess of gamma rays anymore than any EU/PC solar model predicted "no neutrinos". They simply traded one false claim for another. They've produced no evidence that fusion *cannot* occur near the surface, just evidence that core fusion agrees with the neutrino measurements.

We're also now just supposed to focus *only* on neutrinos, and completely ignore the fact that the convection predictions of the mainstream solar model were shown to be off by two whole orders of magnitude and blown away by SDO in 2012. Their enormous convection error has never been updated, fixed or explained, but apparently they don't care about the massive problems in *their own* model.

Watching the EU/PC hater posse try to 'debunk" EU/PC solar models and cosmology models is like watching the an old episode of the Keystone cops. They're so clueless that it's funny to watch. They fancy themselves as such great "experts" on EU/PC theory, when in fact they don't have the first clue how EU/PC models work in the first place. No EU/PC solar model ever predicted "no neutrinos" as Koberlein erroneously and unprofessionally claimed, and no EU/PC solar model predicts an excess of gamma radiation either as he now erroneously assert. They simply handwave away the massive problems in their own model, but they expect us to instantly give up the debate simply because they literally 'make stuff up" about our models that simply isn't true. They're just so clueless.

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Koberlein is still engaging in professional misconduct

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:06 pm

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Ignroance isn't bliss

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:30 pm

I think the most disconcerting aspect of Koberlein's false statements about EU/PC theory is that no so called 'professional' astronomer ever clued him into the fact that EU/PC solar models *do* predict fusion and neutrinos after four whole years. It just demonstrates the level of ignorance that pervades astronomy today in terms of their lack of knowledge about alternatives to their own beliefs. Kinda sad really.
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I feel sorry for astronomy students today.

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:37 am

When I took physics and astronomy courses in school, my teachers did their best to explain why they thought that the current model of the time was the 'best' option at that time, but they didn't go out of their way to misrepresent alternative concepts or stifle free speech and free thought.

They explained to their students that we still had a lot to learn and they didn't try to convey a sense of "certainty" like we see today on TV, and around the internet. They allowed for, and in fact they encouraged alternative thinking because they knew that we still had a lot to learn about our universe.

Today however we see websites like Cosmoquest that treat alternative thinking as "heretical". They punish anyone and everyone who tries to "think outside of the box'. We see TV shows that convey a sense of absolute certainty about a "bang" that never even took place. We see a pure lack of professionalism from folks like Brian Koberlein and his hater posse who don't even understand the models they attempt to "debunk" and who actively lie to their students and misrepresent alternative models to their students.

I really feel sorry for astronomy students who are dependent on unethical individuals for their good grades. I feel sorry for them because the fear factor in astronomy today precludes any sort of open minded approach to physics and herds them into a belief system that has failed more so called "tests" than it passes, and which actively discourages new ideas.

Once upon a time, astronomy was considered to be the 'queen of physics", but not it has now become the court jester. I feel sorry for new students of astronomy. They've being taught absolute metaphysical crap as 'dogmatic truth", and they're being taught to *not* think outside of the box, and they're being beaten into submission. They're doomed to fail their classes if they ask too many questions, or they are doomed to live out their professional careers using mostly placeholder terms for human ignorance to describe the universe around us. How sad.
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Re: I feel sorry for astronomy students today.

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Re: I feel sorry for astronomy students today.

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