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Thunderbolts Forum • View topic - What the wobble?

What the wobble?

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: What the wobble?

Unread postby Aardwolf » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:05 am

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Re: What the wobble?

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Re: What the wobble?

Unread postby Cargo » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:05 pm

Except Gravity as rubber band, gets weaker the farther you stretch it.

It's also curious how gravity can be so selective, after all, the planets don't seem to be bothered by whatever uber gravity is pulling the Sun up and down, or around it's spiral or whatever.
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Re: What the wobble?

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Re: What the wobble?

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Re: What the wobble?

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Re: What the wobble?

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Re: What the wobble?

Unread postby Cargo » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:08 pm

Well at least there's no collisions near us for the next 5 million years. :)
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Re: What the wobble?

Unread postby allynh » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:40 pm

This is a clip from the BBC Horizon program. They "shoot the Moon" hundreds of times a year to measure the distance. This episode is what made me start looking for how the Moon does not orbit around the Earth, that it orbits with the Earth around the Sun as I posted up thread.

Sending a Laser to the Moon - Horizon - Explore BBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpjbdH1y_ds

This is an odd video from the observatory. It explains what they are doing. Watch the video a few times, and you will see that the astronomer lady seems ready to be the evil genius out to conquer the world. Or is that just me over reacting. HA!

Shoot the Moon, the Apache Point Observatory Lunar Laser-Ranging Operation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npLmDTmKHB4

These are the wiki pages describing the observatory and experiment. Read the first a few times and see all the things that they are trying to test for.

- Basically there is this big rock floating beside us and we are watching it carefully. Do not be alarmed.

Apache Point Observatory Lunar Laser-ranging Operation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Po ... _Operation

Lunar Laser Ranging experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Las ... experiment

This is a lecture about the experiment and the proposed new equipment. It is an hour long and hard for me to watch in one sitting. You will see what I mean. HA!

- I can see some of the problems with their design from an EU perspective.

Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Lunar Laser Ranging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H44FlxkLCg

I'm having way too much fun with this.
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Re: What the wobble?

Unread postby lw1990 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:53 am

The reason the suns path is on that trajectory is because all galaxies begin in a spherical formation, over time the centrifugal force / spin force of the galaxy flattens most mass outside the center to the horizontal plane where centrifugal force is greatest. The reason for the wobble is that this process hasn't flattened 100% for the sun yet, but given more time it will. Or, it could have been disjointed by something, or a host of other reasons, but the fundamental probable reason for most stars wobbling outside the galactic centrifugal plane would be the first theory.

I believe the process is elliptical galaxies turn into spiral galaxies, spiral galaxies turn into ring galaxies. Galactic collisions can create irregular galaxies.

Given enough time left alone, galaxies can become 'ring galaxies' where they find equilibrium, and most of the mass gravitates to the galactic boundary. So, ring galaxies represent the oldest or longest-undisturbed galaxies (no galactic collisions). I believe the status quo theory is that ring galaxies are a result of another galaxy punching a symmetrical perfect hole in the ring galaxy, which is hilarious and obviously flawed.
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