Thank you, Webbman.
if you want to call an electric field photons I have no issue with it, as it is very close to photons (only one transformation away) but an electric field doesn't behave like photons so there must be a change in the structure somewhere to account for.
If electric fields are photons, then that is how photons behave in fields.
How do you expect photons to behave?
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Thank you, Charles.
I haven't seen any evidence of any substantial amount of energy coming in from outside of the solar system. Within the solar system, the energy that reaches the outer planets is quite slight. As concerns the idea that all celestial orbs are daisy-chained together, and that without the energy that the receive from these interconnections they would have none at all, I don't see the evidence.
The papers which speak of the incoming energy tend to call them "inflow events". I found that is the best term to
google for evidence of energy coming into the Sun from outside.
Right -- photons are fluctuations in the electric field. So the field can be there, exerting a force on a distance object, but without the exchange of any photons.
So what is in your electric fields, Charles, that exerts the force?
But if the field fluctuates, the photons are there, and this can induce time-varying effects on the distant object.
And if the field doesn't fluctuate, then the photons aren't there?
(I don't really get what you are saying.)
This isn't an hypothesis -- I'm talking about things that were quantified in laboratory experiments in the 1700s, and more thoroughly in the mid-1800s.
Yes, the potential, and the forces have been quantified.
Still the fields are empty, except for the ions they effect.
I might not be able to "explain" such things, but the essential components of EM are well known, and are not contentious.
I was never happy with empty fields with plus and minus signs at the ends. I will contend for I believe there has to be a better explanation.
There must be something in the field causing the force, imo.
And we do have the electro-magnetic spectrum (light) for to fill our electro-magnetic fields.
Which has also been known for quite some time.
But for some reason, it is contentious to populate our electro-magnetic fields with photons from the electro-magnetic spectrum.
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Thank you, Webbman.
well certainly anything new is suspect due to gangster infestation, but lets face it a photon will bounce off your hand. You may absorb some of its energy but it will still bounce and keep bouncing until its momentum/energy is depleted.
I think you are talking about photons of a particular frequency, namely visible light.
al electric field will go right through your hand. This is easily explained.
the free strands that align are all individuals and thus each one aligns as an individual, like a pin being pushed through a cloth, but many many pins.
the diameter of the loop that we call the electron or even photon is too big to do this to the same extent, though if you torsion the loop enough it approaches the ability to do this and we see this with things like xrays and gamma rays(which have very small diameters, due to extreme torsion).
imo it really is that simple.
If it was simple, electrical theory would well explained and the explanation agreed upon. I suspect photons interact with each other as well as with matter, move in bidirectional flows, and cause different particles to move in different directions in the same field. We observe an almost infinite variety of effects from electric forces. I believe it is complexity which keeps us from the definitive mechanical theory that all can agree on.
~Paul