Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnection"

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Re: Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnect

Unread postby jacmac » Mon May 01, 2017 8:30 pm

comingfrom:
I don't see the intergalactic current coming in as a single Birkeland current right to the surface or photosphere of the Sun. That would be one Mother of a current which we would not have missed. Rather, the intergalactic current feeds into the heliopause, which in turn discharges into the heliosphere, which turns into currents which feed into the corona. The corona has discharges which create currents that feed into the chromosphere. Finally the chromosphere discharges currents into the photosphere. (And I probably missed out some spheres here.)

I generally agree with your idea.

During the solar anode / cathode debate on this forum I proposed NEITHER.
The sun is another type of unique, self organised, electrical phenomenon. IMO, as is a Double Layer.
I am suggesting the interior body of the sun acts as GROUND, with the other half of the circuit being the Interstellar medium outside the heliosphere.
The "drift current" (as described by Dr. Scott in his book The Electric Sky) ensues, and the sun happens.

I also don't think there is a single direct Birkeland current feeding the sun.
The solar interior is so massive that it can be one half of it's circuit. The term capacitor seems to fit.
I don't think there is a dominant current PINCH that supplies the sun either.
Although the concentration of the plasma within the heliosphere at the sun is similar to a pinch, I think it is a different phenomenon.

The solar system is a plasma sphere with a GIANT ROCK in the middle where all the plasma goes.

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Re: Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnect

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Mon May 29, 2017 4:25 pm

As I presented above already, it is clear that the phenomena on the sun,
like the solar flares, are driven by electric charges.
The magnetic field has not much to do with it, and the imaginary system
of colliding field-lines is simply male bovine manure.

Now the question arises: how do these charges become so large?

The answer is visible in
this physics lecture of Walter Lewin (MIT-Physics- Lect 7 - Capacitance, Electric Field Energy ).
The lecture describes different ways in which voltages can become larger:
1) increasing the distance between two opposite charges.
2) decreasing of the dielectric between two opposite charges.
3) movement of charge towards a Van de Graaff container.
Additionally we can add:
4) decrease the area between two opposite charges. (not in video)

->1 The first one seems possible by nuclear reactions, and this is probably the cause of EMP-s in
certain nuclear explosions. But also the flows of plasma on the sun can spread 2 different charges apart.
->2 The dielectric decreases when for example the pressure becomes lower. So as 2 different charges go
upward from a deeper layer in the sun, the voltage between the two charges will increase. But it is also
possible due to heat.
->3 A Van-de-Graaff container is a place where all charge goes to. The container must be enclosed with
a conducting material, like plasma.
This may be possible in the granules of the sun, which are everywhere over the sun's surface.
In it the material flows from a deeper layer towards the surface, and back.
These granules might be storage areas for very high voltage charges.
->4 At the surface, the area between 2 charges that come from inside the sun, will have been decreased.

Additionally other flows in the sun may function as Van-De-Graaff generators.
This may relate to the dark areas on the sun (in specific wave-length) which are well known for the
ejection of solar flares.

So in conclusion:
I have identified causes of charge-separation of the sun: nuclear reactions.
I have identified systems that can increase voltages on the sun: dynamic capacitance and generators.

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For more fun in the sun:
Dr Robintaile has lectures about the sun on "Sky Scholar"
In this he describes the reality of a surface on the sun, which is somehow still denied by the mainstream.
And the mainstream model is still based on a gaseous Sun that was based upon a myth.
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Re: Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnect

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:08 pm

For people that want to discuss magnetic reconnection:

Zyxzevn wrote:Looking at Magnetohydrodynamics, which is the mathematical basis
for magnetic reconnection, it appears that they have made some big errors.

1) They assume that the plasma is a perfect conductor.
2) They assume that plasma is a fluid.
3) The use the Cauchy momentum equation in a wrong way.
4) They assume that the flow of plasma "equals" the flow of current.

It seems that they mixed together some formulas that are not supposed to be used together.
They use the same theory and same logic error to explain why they think plasma follows magnetic field lines.

Reminds me of how people can mathematically proof that 1=2.

In practice, with a near perfect conductor, like a super-conductor,
we can already see that this principle is total nonsense.
In super-conductors magnetic fields get "frozen". The magnets stop moving
relative to the superconducting material.
Which is really nothing like what we see on the sun.


I wanted to add:
Magnetic reconnection is easy to disproof.
It's basis is that magnetic field-lines that connect and re-connect produce any kind of energy.

This is actually very easy to test concept.
Magnetic field lines connect and reconnect if I let a magnet attract by another magnet,
and move one of the magnets in any way.

Each time the magnet moves, the field-lines connect and reconnect.
The amount of field-lines is a random number.
The amount of which they change depends on this random number.
You can also get this number by counting the number of hairs on a unicorn.

But let's forget myths and do some real-world physics:

Here I found a video in which a rotating magnet
levitates due to a magnet above it.

It also uses bismuth to keep it in place.

In this wonderful video, you can see no unicorns.
There is no energy produced, nor energy lost, while the magnet is rotating.
And producing a lot of magnetic reconnections.
The magnets are very strong and the magnetic field should be comparable to
the strength of magnetism on the sun.

And you can see that there is nor energy lost, and no energy produced.
He could do the same thing in plasma or vacuum.
It would produce no difference.

If magnetic reconnection was real, would we would see sparkles of energy appear around the magnet.
just like we would see them around the wings of unicorns when they fly.

Thus this proofs beyond any doubt, in theory and in practice,
that magnetic reconnection does not produce or lose any energy.
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Re: Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnect

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:50 pm

Zyxzevn wrote:If magnetic reconnection was real, would we would see sparkles of energy appear around the magnet.
just like we would see them around the wings of unicorns when they fly.

Thus this proofs beyond any doubt, in theory and in practice,
that magnetic reconnection does not produce or lose any energy.


It should be noted that it is possible to *induce* current flow in a conductor by changing the magnetic field topology in the conductor, but that is the only way that magnetic field energy is converted to particle kinetic energy.
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Re: Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnect

Unread postby Webbman » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:22 pm

also remember that they are floating frogs and mice nowadays.

is an electric explanation of gravity really so unrealistic?
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Re: Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnect

Unread postby comingfrom » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:07 pm

Thank you, Zyxzevn. Cool video.

You made me think. But what does this all mean?
It means, if it isn't the magnetic field lines, then it must be something else.
And that something else must be currents. Electrical currents.
We know this also from our human made technologies.
We cleverly use magnets to generate a current, and use the current to transfer energy.
One can't make sparks just from magnets, but from a current you can make a spark.

So, the magnetic field of the Sun isn't all that strong, but it is drawing in currents over long distances and from a vast volume of space, and so the currents are not insignificant. (All the matter that the Galaxy radiated in our general direction gets focused in towards the Sun.) The generated currents will tend to follow the magnetic field lines, so, when current carrying field lines connect, then the currents connect, resulting in high energy events.

How am I doing? Any unicorns yet?
That obviously is a very simplified explanation. So much more can be said in describing current structures, constituents, double layers, and so forth. But I think what I'm looking for, is a simple and understandable (and real) alternative explanation.

I think magnetic reconnection theory took hold because, like a unicorn, it is easy to visualize.
Double layer theory isn't so easy to grasp.

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Re: Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnect

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:29 pm

Experimental proof against "magnetic reconnection"

I found another experiment that proves that magnetic field lines have no physical reality.
See this short video of a magnetic hourglass.
The video shows that the iron particles form lines.
But these lines move around as more iron is collected.
So this means that the lines are not caused by the field,
but by the material. Unlike what "magnetic reconnection" predicts.
This is also what we already know from basic physics.

Stark effect

Looking more at magnetic connection I spotted a severe problem.

The estimates on magnetic fields are usually based on the zeeman effect.
On wikipedia there is even a link to the sun.
But the same effect is also caused by electric fields, called the Stark effect.

And because the events on the sun can NOT be explained with magnetic fields, it is clear
to me that these are often electrical fields instead.
It seems to me that all mainstream reports of "very strong magnetic fields" could be
very strong electric fields instead. Like in young galaxies.

Magnetic confinement

It is not hard to debunk magnetic reconnection, because in real physical processes
matter does not follow paths of magnetic field lines.
In magnetic confinement in a fusion reactor,
the magnetic field has to be carefully tuned to keep the particles inside.
The confinement works because the particles go into a spiralling path through the magnetic field.
This is also a problem with this type of reactor, because the fused particles
become very different and can move away from the designed path.
But I have seen no reason to believe that this confinement is actually stable in more
chaotic natural environments, like the sun.
This spiral path follows the weakest magnetic field. That is absolutely not what
magnetic reconnection tells us. It says that any field-line would be ok.
And the electrons produce Brehmsstrahlung,
which I don't think has been observed.

Bonus video
X class solar flare
Very easy to understand (and model) as an electrical phenomenon:
All visible lines are electrical currents.
The circular paths are caused by magnetic fields and pressure.
The very high current of the flare possibly caused fusion,
giving the flare additional energy and additional currents.
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Re: Solar flare and electromagnetism and "magnetic reconnect

Unread postby comingfrom » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:12 pm

It seems to me that all mainstream reports of "very strong magnetic fields" could be
very strong electric fields instead.
If you keep getting shocks, when playing with (or studying) your magnets...

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