Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Sat May 06, 2017 4:29 am

Just a follow up post about Gobekli Tepi:

The archaeologists response:
https://tepetelegrams.wordpress.com/201 ... e-aurochs/
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun May 07, 2017 5:42 pm

webolife wrote:Lloyd,
You've done a good job summing up the questions that I've asked over the last four decades of research that have led to the formulation of my own view of catastrophic earth history. You framed it as a question, supported your question with subtopics for consideration,and provided pertinent references. Nice work!
Thanks, Gordon, and thanks for helping with this thread, which provided a foundation for me.

Here are article links I forgot to post last week.

Why Newton Believed a Comet Caused Noah’s Flood
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017 ... ty-science

Huge 1.8 million km2 reservoir of melting carbon under Western United States
https://www.sott.net/article/342562-Sci ... ted-States

Two New Scientific Papers Suggest a Catastrophic Extraterrestrial Impact Event Occurred 12,000 Years Ago
http://www.dailygrail.com/Hidden-Histor ... pact-Event

Scientists Still Don’t Know Where Did Chief Joseph Get His Mesopotamian Tablet?
https://www.theindigenousamericans.com/ ... ian-tablet

Mimicking an impact on Earth’s early atmosphere yields all 4 RNA bases
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/04 ... -rna-bases

Here are this week's related articles.

Could there be remnants of ancient civilizations in our solar system?
https://www.sott.net/article/349850-Cou ... lar-system

New study suggests meteor showers sparked volcanic eruptions
https://www.sott.net/article/350075-New ... -eruptions

Huge impact crater discovered near the Falklands Islands
https://www.sott.net/article/350255-Hug ... ds-Islands

Can the 35,600-[sic]-year-old Art of Altamira Cave be both Witnessed and Preserved?
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient- ... ira-021354

Mastodon Bone Findings Could Upend Our Understanding of Human History
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science- ... ry-n751406

The Origins of an Ancient Fairy Tale: Smith and the Devil
http://discovermagazine.com/2017/may-2017/story-time

Egypt: 4,000-year-old funerary garden at tomb entrance
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 093225.htm

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Tue May 16, 2017 10:22 am

More Catastrophism-related Articles:

What lightning does to rock quantified
https://www.sott.net/article/350550-Wha ... quantified

Death by asteroid may come in unexpected ways - from gusting winds and shock waves
https://www.sott.net/article/350616-Dea ... hock-waves

Ancient Mars impacts created tornado-like winds that scoured surface
https://www.sott.net/article/350925-Anc ... ed-surface

Scientists say dinosaurs would've survived if the asteroid struck just seconds later
https://www.sott.net/article/350975-Sci ... onds-later
(Actually, large dinosaurs would have died anyway, because Earth lost atmosphere from the impacts that made large animals partly buoyant. See e.g. Ted Holden's data.)

Earth was barren, flat and almost entirely under water 4.4 billion years ago
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-earth-bar ... years.html

How the Bantu people surged across two-thirds of Africa
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/05 ... -of-africa

The Lost Iberian Civilization of Los Millares: Was Copper the Secret of its Success?
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient- ... ess-008011

Ancient Babylonian Tablet Provides Compelling Evidence that the Tower of Babel did Exist
http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-his ... did-021378

Dragon and griffin megaliths ‘dating back 12,000 years to end of Ice Age, or earlier’
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/f ... or-earlier

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun May 21, 2017 8:38 pm

New Catastrophism-related Articles

Comets helped build Earth's atmosphere
https://www.sott.net/article/351387-Stu ... atmosphere

Mars May Have Been Born in the Asteroid Belt
https://www.seeker.com/space/planets/ma ... eroid-belt

Brown dwarf launches a parsec-scale jet
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-weight-br ... e-jet.html

ALMA eyes icy ring around young planetary system
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-alma-eyes ... etary.html

Ancient-genome study finds Bronze Age ‘Beaker culture’ invaded Britain
http://www.nature.com/news/ancient-geno ... in-1.21996

Saving Pakistan’s lost city of Mohenjo Daro
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-pakistan- ... -daro.html

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun May 28, 2017 7:46 pm

Researchers discover extra layer of tectonic plates within Earth's mantle
https://www.sott.net/article/351948-Res ... ths-mantle

Asteroids which could wipe out an entire continent are hidden by the Taurid meteor shower
https://www.sott.net/article/351997-Ast ... mers-claim

Ordovician Mass Extinction May Have Been Triggered by Volcanic Eruptions
http://www.sci-news.com/paleontology/or ... 04871.html

Life in the Precambrian may have been much livelier than previously thought
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-life-prec ... ought.html

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:29 pm

ARTICLES UPDATE

Meteor may have caused unexplained boom that shook Athens
https://www.sott.net/article/352768-Ret ... ook-Athens

Could cold spot in the sky be a bruise from a collision with a parallel universe?
https://phys.org/news/2017-05-cold-sky- ... verse.html

Busting myths of human origin
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/356/6339/678.full

Genomics tracks migration from lost empires to modern cities
http://www.heritagedaily.com/2017/05/ge ... ies/115065

Noah’s Ark discovered? Researchers ‘99.9 per cent certain’ of astonishing Biblical find
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/8 ... rchaeology

Could Ancient Greek Myths Hint at Contact With South America?
http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-le ... ica-008134

Groundbreaking discovery of early civilization in ancient Peru
http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/sp ... cient-peru

New Ancient Henge Found in England, This Time with Corpses
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/05/n ... th-corpses

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by nick c » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:05 pm

Three off topic posts were moved to a more appropriate thread here.

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:44 pm

Thanks, Nick.

More Relevant Articles.
Meteorites from Moon and Mars show uneven pressures of formation
https://phys.org/news/2017-06-high-pres ... stery.html

Artifacts of ancient Americans show civilization more advanced than thought
https://www.yahoo.com/news/artifacts-an ... 51341.html

Remnants of Mother Language from the Last Ice Age
http://www.dailygrail.com/Hidden-Histor ... ge-Existed

5,000 Years of Native American Moundbuilding
http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/sp ... ndbuilding

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:11 pm

PARTY
I just noticed that my June 4th post above was my 4,000th post. I guess there should be a celebration.

I also posted a few hundred posts on the original forum here that crashed after less than a year in early 2008.

For the first couple years Michael Gmirkin was posting about twice as much as I was, but then he quit posting here pretty much. JungleLord was also posting a lot until his death in 2010.

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:49 pm

4,000–year-old Mesopotamian city discovered in Kurdistan
http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/64db ... 3e49d1c1e0

Scientists discover evidence in the Falklands of the asteroid which caused extinction on Earth 250 million years ago [actually under 5,000 years ago]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... Dying.html

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:25 pm

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'Nocturnal sun': Zonal waves caused 'bright nights' in ancient times claim scientists
https://www.sott.net/article/355026-Noc ... scientists

Volcanic eruptions triggered dawn of the dinosaurs [nope]
http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-06-19-vol ... -dinosaurs

This Volcano-Shaped Pyramid in Peru Has Experts Stumped
https://www.livescience.com/59544-myste ... -peru.html

Archaeologists unearth prehistoric ritual area around Bryn Celli Ddu, UK
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... u-anglesey

Scientists throw light on mysterious ice age temperature jumps
https://phys.org/news/2017-06-scientist ... ature.html

5,000-Year-Old ‘Billboard’ of Hieroglyphs Contains a Cosmic Message
https://www.livescience.com/59588-billb ... ssage.html

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:08 am

European ice sheet collapse caused chaos
https://www.sott.net/article/355578-Eur ... used-chaos

Turkish site reveals more evidence of neolithic ‘skull cult’
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... bekli-tepe

Previously unknown extinction of marine megafauna discovered [probably misdated from the Great Flood]
https://phys.org/news/2017-06-previousl ... fauna.html

See also the Catastrophist Geology thread at
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 58#p120258

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:29 pm

Our young moon’s supersonic winds made waves in its magma ocean
https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... gma-ocean/

Mars’ Two-Faces and Moons Could Result from an Early [or recent] Cataclysmic Impact
http://www.sci-news.com/space/mars-two- ... 05009.html

Planets like earth may have had muddy origins
https://phys.org/news/2017-07-planets-earth-muddy.html

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:30 pm

Study suggests Mars volcano went dormant around same time dinosaurs went extinct [about 5,000 years ago]
https://www.sott.net/article/357031-Stu ... nt-extinct

Ancient, massive asteroid impact could explain Martian geological mysteries
https://phys.org/news/2017-07-ancient-m ... rtian.html

Ancient City of Mohenjo Daro
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient- ... es-021499c

Sea cave preserves 5,000-year snapshot of tsunamis
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases ... 071717.php

The Solution to the 5,500-year-old Mesopotamian Clay Ball Enigma
http://www.ancient-origins.net/artifact ... gma-008411

Tutankhamun’s Scarab Brooch Was Born of a 28-Million-Year Old Comet Strike
http://www.ancient-origins.net/artifact ... ike-021509

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Re: Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm

Unread post by Lloyd » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:13 pm

Secretive Saturn: New Cassini data upends existing theories
https://www.sott.net/article/357505-Sec ... g-theories

Scientific expedition to unlock secrets of 'lost continent' Zealandia
https://www.sott.net/article/357697-Aho ... -Zealandia

Yes, ancient civilizations on Mars sound crazy; And yet…
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07 ... y-and-yet/

Did A Solar-System-Wide Cataclysm Erase Evidence of a Prior Space-Faring Species?
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... or-sp.html

Identifying major transitions in human cultural evolution
https://phys.org/news/2017-07-major-tra ... ution.html

The Maya Controversy: Startling New Evidence for an Antediluvian People who Influenced the World
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient- ... nce-021530

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