Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread post by GaryN » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:11 pm

The idea with the magnetised rod and thread was to balance the needle so I could see both azimuth and dip, seems like I need one of these though, only $1,740.25. Drool...
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http://www.minerox.com/product-p/a1724.htm

The field of river and creek magnetic surveys seems wide open, don't find much at all about it, or about magnetic boulders. Did find the Texas Rock Wall feature where rocks with 40 Gauss permanent magnetic fields have been found.
https://www.forbiddenhistory.info/?q=node/45

Funky rock formation of the Day?
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Unread post by GaryN » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:51 am

Crop of image from Chang'e 3 on the Moon. What are these little mounds with a pit at the top? Gopher holes?
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They're Red Ant mounds, and they are coming to Canada.

Where is that "Funky rock formation of the Day?" from ?

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Unread post by GaryN » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:57 pm

Where is that "Funky rock formation of the Day?" from ?
Romania. They are trovants, concretions called growing rocks. I have to wonder if they didn't have some telluric current help though?
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The lunar surface feature reminded me of a miniature version of the crater and mountain on Ceres, as there seems to be a depression at the left, and the mound appeasr to have an electrically eroded pit on top. In this image it looks like material has been pulled out of the pit and up the slope. Maybe.
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interesting nuclei in some nodes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concretion

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Unread post by GaryN » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:35 am

Presently have a visitor who worked in Forestry on Vancouver Island, and I was telling him about my compass behaviour at the Sooke Potholes site. He doesn't believe in my electrical model of geomorphology at all, but then told me about how the logging road building crews could be driven crazy trying to figure out their survey lines when their compasses would not do what they were supposed to. They were offered no explanation other than it was an anomaly, cause unknown. It would seem that these anomalies are not documented or marked on maps, and on searching for anomalies for southern Vancouver Island I get only airborne surveys which have been used to support the idea of plate tectonics, transform faults and seafloor spreading models of conventional geology. Nothing about very localised anomalies, even though there is no doubt they exist. Their models have become fact, but I believe they have misinterpreted the data, and the real culprit is EM geomorphology on a huge scale, but it is the small, unexplained, practically unmentioned very localised anomalies that will eventually destroy the presently accepted model. Not in my lifetime no doubt, but I'll do my best to at least raise some awkward questions!

Some links related to the subject:

Vine–Matthews–Morley hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine%E2%8 ... hypothesis

Magnetic anomaly map of North America
http://mrdata.usgs.gov/geophysics/map.html#

Interpretation of the aeromagnetic anomalies of southern Vancouver Island.
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/e88-079

Crustal and Subduction Zone Processes in Western Washington and Background for Episodic Tremor
http://tremorandtectonicswashington.weebly.com/

Got a little spare pocket change?
The Continental Drift Controversy
http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/su ... ontroversy
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread post by seasmith » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:19 am

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Gary, Have you read the recent T'bolts blog by Andrew Hall, Surface Conductive Faults ?

Lot's of good pictures of (electric?) geo-astroblemes, backed up by solid high voltage engineering theory.
Surely they followed up the photo work with some on-site Magnetic Anomaly Testing, right ?????

Andrew provides his email address, so perhaps a resource in your equipment search / studies ?

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2016/0 ... ve-faults/
http://www.highvoltageconnection.com/ar ... corona.pdf

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Unread post by GaryN » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:27 pm

Gary, Have you read the recent T'bolts blog by Andrew Hall, Surface Conductive Faults ?
Yes I have, and I liked
Arcing, surface conductive currents can be shown to be a significant influence in Earth’s geology. But one must imagine an arc of truly colossal size…

Truly colossal, and that will be the tough part to sell even to many EU proponents. I haven't contacted him yet, but have contacted the person at Geomagnetism Canada first to see if these phenomena are documented anywhere, or if he has an explanation for them. Being so localised, I can only think of electrical causes.
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Unread post by comingfrom » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:39 am

This may be of interest.

Australia geo-electrical current.

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Unread post by GaryN » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:58 am

Thanks for that link Paul. Australia has seen a good amount of electrical activity I'd say, and it's cause likely from Solar EM storms. I found one paper on the subject:

Large-scale Electrical Conductivity Structure of Australia
http://rses.anu.edu.au/~ted/EG997150.pdf

Have only had a quick look so far. Did a little more exploring in my own area though and confirmed the existence of mainly dips in a short stretch of river that I had not explored before. I had a very briefreply from Geomagnetism Canada:
The rock of the Sooke Potholes is basalt from the Metchosin Igeous Complex, and these rocks, especially if hit by lightning, are very strongly magnetized.
So there seem to be many anomalies along the Sooke River banks, the dips being the strongest and most numerous, so I must assume a lot of lightning strikes. I'll try along the foreshore and up in the hills where electrical activity appears to have been present, but I'm pretty certain the anomalies will be numerous.
When the lightning occurred would be my next question. The geological history model for the area is that the glaciers began retreating 16 to 12 thousand years ago, so it would have to be after the retreat that the lightning struck, though I really have great doubts about the existence of the supposed deep ice sheets at all. The visible evidence would seem to show that the shattered outcrops in the hills still have all the material from the outcrop in the close vicinity, similarly with the river and creeks, nothing has been swept away by glaciers or a global deluge or tidal wave. Everything seems to be just as it was after the electrical storm, and much of it seems like it may have happened only yesterday, the evidence is so fresh looking.
In the river and creek beds there are obvious examples of rock, both still attached to the bedrock, and in the form of rounded boulders, that are clearly not basalt any more, metamorphosis has occurred. The appearance of some of the rounded boulders in the creek beds match exactly the properties of the rock still attached to parts of the creek bed, proof enough I'd say that the rounded boulder was created from the creek bed material itself.
Difficult as it may be to accept, the evidence I see can only be explained by having the river and creeks being the result of a surface discharge, from ocean foreshore to hill and mountain tops. The lakes at the top end, most of them described as glacial cirques, are excavations where the discharge connected to what was likely a highly ionised plasma cloud, above a boundary layer. That would also likely explain the many flat topped hills, the boundary layers are very well defined.
I wish I could find a small group of well-round engineers to climb up just one creek at the Potholes this summer, as it is my belief the evidence clearly shows that glaciers or erosion or weathering could absolutely not have produced the noted features. Only one force could have done it. I realise that even if such a group agreed with my beliefs, mainstream would take no notice whatsoever. The fact I have received zero replies from E-mails and photos I have sent the Earth Sciences university departments regarding some of the features strongly suggests that they can not explain them by any conventional means, and really would rather not even talk about the matter.
So who do I complain to? :D
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread post by GaryN » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:18 am

I thought this an interesting conundrum:
Canada's Sheguiandah Site: pre-Clovis or Paleo-Indian?
http://www.magma.ca/~rel/sheg/shegcore.html

Towards the end of the page are 2 links that discuss the evidence and the interpretation as either glacial till or beach deposits, but if the evidence is so difficult to definitively identify, then perhaps they need to consider other alternatives, such as electrical/plasma forces? I have great doubts about the glaciation models, not just at this location, but all supposedly glacially altered sites and suspect it was rather electrical forces, which can create the very fine grains and the smoothed surfaces of some of the rocks.
By having only conventional forces in their tool kits, researchers are likely never to be able to understand how such sites were really created.
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Re: Electro-Magnetic Geomorphology

Unread post by GaryN » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:30 am

I don't buy erosion, weathering, concretions. Grand Rapids region.
https://terrybolland.files.wordpress.co ... 180151.jpg

A couple of screen captures from a video taken by a diver at the Sooke potholes.
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I have seen similarly coloured and patterned boulders in some of the creek beds too, with the near by bedrock exhibiting the same properties.
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Pillow lava is how some of the features are classified, but this to me demonstrates how the rounded boulders are formed in what would have been the utterly chaotic EM forces present if the river and creek beds were to have been a discharge track.
The 10 minute, rather tame video is here:
https://vimeo.com/162681905
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Unread post by GaryN » Sat May 07, 2016 8:57 am

Baatara Gorge waterfall, Lebanon. I am supposed to believe that water did this?
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The water came after the event, and really has done very little to the gorge since its formation. The Mediterranean, the Red Sea, Persian Gulf, and probably the Black and Caspian seas were all etched, and likely during the same event. We need to think big when considering the magnitude of events that have shaped the Earths, and other planets surfaces. Of course we are talking big by our scale, but to the planets, we are infinitesimally small!
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Unread post by GaryN » Mon May 30, 2016 9:22 pm

I was looking at rocks and altered landscapes of course when I came across this site. Must say I am gob-smacked, not just with the apparently man made structures and what appear to me to be EM altered ones too (rounded and metamorphosed), but with the proposition, with much supporting evidence, that the history of the Earth and its inhabitants is very, very different to what we are told by mainstream educators. All of Earths history may have been written in the last 2 to 3 hundred years. Has anyone else looked at the site, and if so, what do you make of it?
Megaliths.org
http://www.megaliths.org/
There is so much material that it would take weeks to go through, but this vid seems to be recent and better quality than earlier ones, so may be a good start.(52 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPrwFzSIV5g
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Unread post by GaryN » Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:35 pm

In this video about Petra in Jordan, the author points out the erosion of some of the sandstone structures and wonders what on Earth could have caused it. There is only one force that could, IMO. Plasma. I had only seen the most touristy images of Petra, but having watched the video, I am totally convinced that the history we are taught is mostly utter BS. The sheer amount of rock that had been removed to create the underground tunnels and chambers, let alone the intricate carving, would have been impossible to the people who were supposed to have created it all, or to others they may have paid to create.
Looking at the geology of the surrounding area I'd have to say most of the weathering and erosion was all by intense EM events, but when?

Petra (Jordan), all you've heard is wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEGYvLo4N-Y
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