querious wrote:Upon charging a neutral foil, which is in a dipole-induced electrostatic field, the measured weight (which is actually an electric force in dipole gravity), should change much more than accounted for by the negligible mass of the added/subtracted electrons.
I have given it some considerable thought, in attempt to try and 'get inside your head' and understand your point of view.
I have not currently the bandwidth, or the time, and had no interest in viewing this Thornhill presentation EU 2015 that has caused all the fuss. Maybe in future , as my curiousity now somewhat aroused? Whether Wal was trying to dumb it down for a widely dispersed, unknown audience of varied knowledge .....I dunno????
However your reply above does help me ( I think?) understand the confusion.... assuming you are not just here TB forum to denegrate Thornhill at any way possible?
The proponents of dipole gravity hypothesis are not proposing an electrostatic field in the commonly understood parlance.
I think (not certain) Thornhill adapted his hypothesis from another physicist Ralph Sansbury.
Now both of them are more than qualified and intelligent enough to know that GRAVITY is not 10 ^39 orders of magnitude greater than is measured. It is not electrostatic they are proposing , nor are they particularly proposing "mass" (whatever that is?) massively changes on the application of an electric charge to objects subject to a gravity field as per your "foil".
Somehow I get a picture of you imagining they are suggesting that the atoms and molecules on earth all have their 'electrons' pointing skyward?
What they are proposing is the stuff that makes up the matter , not electron or protons or neutrons, but the stuff whether material or not that makes up those components. Whilst they both hedge around it using terms like "subtrons" or "neutrino clouds" but IMHO they ought just get straight to it and call it the aether
These according to their hypothesis cause very small distortions in the components. These they suggest cause very very small electric based attraction. It is electric in their terms, not in the way we generally think of the forms of electricity, but rather due to the very basis of every quantum theory of matter proposes that it is ALL entirely electric/magnetic phenomenon. Neither gentleman completely get's away from "spooky action at a distance", due to not being absolutely clear about the aether.
Here is a quote I found from Sansbury...... on a Thornhill article
http://www.holoscience.com/wp/electric- ... -universe/
“..electrostatic dipoles within all atomic nuclei are very small but all have a common orientation. Hence their effect on a conductive piece of metal is less to pull the free electrons in the metal to one side toward the center of the earth but to equally attract the similarly oriented electrostatic and dipoles inside the nuclei and free electrons of the conductive piece of metal.” 
Now do you see .....their hypothesis is not about zapping things with electricity and therefore changing mass or weight?
Your foil thought experiment .......has absolutely no relevance at all , in any way, to their hypothesis.
Now it is currently, it seems to me, a unfalsifiable hyothesis. I don't buy it either completely. But lets face it mainstream reckon they have found the Higgs Boson .....BS!
!!!... so we arn't about to find out anytime soon!
I feel pretty confident this information will not change your mind NOT ONE LITTLE bit. That is prefectly OK by me I have tried to help. However your much repeated mantra was likely to fool newcomers or those who have no prior knowledge ....other than the likely inadvertant 'faux pas' apparently in the video (?).
When I first found this site years ago, there was next to nothing other than Don Scotts book and Thornhills TPODS on their hypothesis, the resouce section was a few posts. I quickly found if you are in doubt, then send a PM to a moderator and politely ask your question or concern and they will in my experience bend over backwards
to direct you to the appropriate resource to clarify the "EU" (whatever that is) position.
I thank you and commend you that you have remained courteous in your replies to me. That is a big deal! and I apologise for any harsh manner I have inflicted toward you , if unwarranted.
Anyway , I have enjoyed it.
Over and out