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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby Frantic » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:26 pm

Smooth, icy plains have been spotted on the surface of Pluto, in the latest images released Friday from a NASA spacecraft that flew by the dwarf planet this week. The plains are located north of Pluto's icy mountains


Icy, icy everywhere,
The scièntists did think.
Icy, icy everywhere,
Or else their theories sink.

About, about, in reel and rout
they try to make the theory right;
Photographs, with painted colors,
Teach Brown is blue and ice.

And all their tongues, through broken pride,
Were withered at the root;
They could explain, no more than if
They had been choked with soot.

And some in dreams assurèd were
Of the Snow and ice just below;
Nine planets deep we have traveled now,
Through the land of mist and snow.
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby seasmith » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:17 pm

Frantic » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:50 pm

So what does everyone think of the Sputnik Plain?

Polygons abound. Looks more like cellular features to me though.

http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-puzzle ... 707021.htm

Image



Methane clathrates ?


Gashydrat_mit_Struktur.jpg
methane-seep-off-us-east-coast.jpg


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https://robertscribbler.wordpress.com/2 ... sea-floor/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis
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Pluto's "massive tail of charged plasma"

Unread postby bdw000 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:40 am

Ha! Look what this brief article says:

we’ve just learned that Pluto’s atmosphere is pouring away into space. It’s leaving a massive tail of charged plasma in its wake.


Emphasis added.

http://gizmodo.com/plutos-atmosphere-is-billowing-away-into-space-1718582990
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby antosarai » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:19 pm

Why did you emphasise it?
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Pluto has a plasma tail

Unread postby Peon » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:55 pm

We've seen comets and planets with tails of plasma, and now we can add another one. So far, so good EU!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/nas ... nsnewsap11
"We have actually flown through this [tail]," Fran Bagenal, a New Horizons co-investigator from the University of Colorado, Boulder, said during the press conference.

Ionized gas forms when a bunch of energy pummels atmospheric atoms and molecules. This bombardment pops electrons off the atmospheric gas particles, allowing their electrons to freely circulate. The end result is plasma: a fourth state of matter after solids, liquids, and gases.

As far as we know, plasma is the most common state of matter in the universe. There's simply a lot of energy pouring out of stars, and a lot of gas floating in space to form plasma. So, while it might seem surprising, plasma tails like Pluto's aren't new. They even exist behind other planets in the Solar System, including Venus and Mars.
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Re: Pluto data reveals terrain that is “not easy to explain"

Unread postby +EyeOn-W-ANeed2Know » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:23 pm

Adjacent to the hills are regions covered by small pits that scientists predict could have formed via sublimation


:roll: An embarrassingly poor grasp of the English language for someone who's job is supposed to be reporting...
They aren't predicting anything!!!!!!
The appropriate term to apply there would be "assume" or "surmise".

Seems ridiculous to use the word "predict" in an article full of :
"the team cannot definitively say how these came to be",
"This terrain is not easy to explain"
and "exceeds all pre-fly expectations"
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby MattEU » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:21 pm

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The backlighting highlights over a dozen layers of haze in Pluto’s tenuous but distended atmosphere. The image was taken from a distance of 11,000 miles (18,000 kilometers) to Pluto; the scene is 780 miles (1,250 kilometers) wide.

Owing to its favorable backlighting and high resolution, this MVIC image also reveals new details of hazes throughout Pluto’s tenuous but extended nitrogen atmosphere. The image shows more than a dozen thin haze layers extending from near the ground to at least 60 miles (100 kilometers) above the surface. In addition, the image reveals at least one bank of fog-like, low-lying haze illuminated by the setting sun against Pluto’s dark side, raked by shadows from nearby mountains.
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/pluto-wows- ... t-panorama
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby viscount aero » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:26 pm

Frantic wrote:
Smooth, icy plains have been spotted on the surface of Pluto, in the latest images released Friday from a NASA spacecraft that flew by the dwarf planet this week. The plains are located north of Pluto's icy mountains


Icy, icy everywhere,
The scièntists did think.
Icy, icy everywhere,
Or else their theories sink.

About, about, in reel and rout
they try to make the theory right;
Photographs, with painted colors,
Teach Brown is blue and ice.

And all their tongues, through broken pride,
Were withered at the root;
They could explain, no more than if
They had been choked with soot.

And some in dreams assurèd were
Of the Snow and ice just below;
Nine planets deep we have traveled now,
Through the land of mist and snow.


^^^ brilliant
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby GaryN » Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:42 am

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Ice that appears to be made of frozen nitrogen accumulates on the uplands on the right side of this 390-mile-wide image. It is draining from Pluto's mountains onto the "heart."

According to the press release, NASA scientists did not expect to find a nitrogen-based weather cycle on the dwarf planet.

"Pluto is surprisingly Earth-like in this regard," Stern said in the press release, "and no one predicted it."

http://www.techinsider.io/eerie-pluto-m ... ons-2015-9

I have not found information on the mechanical properties of frozen nitrogen, can it flow at such low temperatures? How hard is it? Anyway, this looks like a case of ice having filled in the electrically formed crater and plasma cut channels.
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby comingfrom » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:07 pm

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Pluto's Puzzling Patterns and Pits | NASA
https://www.nasa.gov/nh/pluto-puzzling-patterns-and-pits

Something about Pluto that appeared to not be predicted.

Puzzling?
Looks expectable for a planetary surface in an electric Universe to me.
It would be puzzling if the Universe was not electric.
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby MattEU » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:18 pm

comingfrom wrote:Image

Pluto's Puzzling Patterns and Pits | NASA
https://www.nasa.gov/nh/pluto-puzzling-patterns-and-pits

Something about Pluto that appeared to not be predicted.

Puzzling?
Looks expectable for a planetary surface in an electric Universe to me.
It would be puzzling if the Universe was not electric.


pits that turn into crater chains :)
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby Steve Smith » Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:55 am

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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby kiwi » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:30 am

There's a nice double "crater" on the left hand side 2/3 the way up Steve ... very similar to an example on Mars.... a "ridge" seperating the two lobes ... process's at work that do not distinquish between distance from the Sun here? ... throwing caution at the MS reasoning for topological features based on the mechanism of temp/Sun distance as the dominant modelling force? (excuding G there, which is of course the big boss ;) )

http://www.impact-structures.com/wp-con ... n-mars.jpg
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Re: Photos of Pluto

Unread postby Terminus » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:51 pm

Steve Smith wrote:A penultimate Pluto image. Flyby was 2 hours ago...

Pluto


I have a question about this image.

How is there enough radiation from the sun to illuminate Pluto. This image looks as bright as our moon. I expect there is some enhancement of the image but to me, something is off here.

I admit to no technical skills that would tell me there is something amiss with this photo but in my mind Pluto is so far away from the sun that it not have a light and dark side as there would not be enough solar radiation to create such an effect.

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