The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

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The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby MerLynn » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:51 am

OK fellow Scientists and Researchers.
This is going to be a long haul. Correcting all the mistakes and errors of the past isn't going to be done in one post. It may take hundreds, it just depends upon how open your mind is to some remarkable inventions.
Remember the GOLDEN RULE
"The purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated."
I can approach this in two ways,
(1) give the results of 1000's of experiments and dozens of unique inventions
or
(2) give you the Theory of The Nature of the Atomic Structure and What Plasma Is and then the practical experiments.
So given the mammoth task of explaining that as per this Thunderbolts..... Essential Guide to the EU – Chapter 3 Plasma is only about 10% correct and 90% imaginary Nobel prize seeking fantasy.

I have neglected chapter 1 and 2 at this time as the Electric Universe Theory starts and ends with 'plasma'.
For those of you who would prefer an over view of what I am saying I will begin with approach (1) for a bit.
There exists in Australia a 'gifted' inventor. This guy has been hard at work in his workshop for 25 years. I have been an associate helper for the last 20. The apparatus construction materials are mostly, stainless steel, ferrite magnets and DC 'electricity'. On occasion mild steel and rubber with some electrical wire.
While the invented devices probably total more than 50 with no two the same, there exist several different configurations that do exactly the same thing.
Bear in mind if you meet the criteria of a serious investigator you can join the ranks of several hundred others to have seen the following done literally 1000's of times.
(some of)The results can be categorized under the following experiments.
(a)Electro-Magnetically restructuring fresh drinking water into crude "saudi like" oil. (abiotic)
(b)Electro-Magnetically restructuring any oil waste product into fresh drinking water.
(c)Electro-Magnetically restructuring ANY liquid into fresh drinking water, including liquid concrete, fresh raw sewerage, or abattoir effluent like guts, fats, bodily fluids any liquid in fact.
(d) making fresh drinking water burn like petrol and making water nonburnable in situations where it does burn like an oil or plastic fire. (making water put out ALL fires with just a mist) For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.
(e) Electro-Magnetically restructuring fresh water into any other liquid that's "watery". A process we call Chemical Emulation but this subject is NOT up for discussion. (at this time)

How is it done you ask. Impossible you say. Fantasy you scream. No, its simply understanding magnetic fields and the construct of the atomic structure and duplicating what the Earths Magnetic Fields do to 'matter' on this planet Earth. You can not begin to understand the Universe or the Sun til you understand the nature of the Earth.
But lets elaborate on just one experiment.
(a) Fresh drinking water into 'saudi like' crude oil.
It can be done several ways either statically with the water in a vat or dynamically with water flowing in a pipe. At magneticwaterscience.com the video shows it statically.
First one needs a Magnetic Field Generation device specifically designed for imparting a Field into a vessel of water.
Spinning magnets generate a Field in air (or Space that is why everything is spinning {intelligent design or chaos?})
The Field Generation Antenna or Array or water module for water into oil, consists (one design of many) of concentric stainless steel pipes inside one another, all aligned in their polarity and of such number that they duplicate the FOURmat of the earth. Only 2 of the 4 cylinders have DC connected to them. Polarity is critical but easily understood. The "type" of fresh water ie, bottled, rain, non polluted river or bore water has an influence on the 'quality of Crude made. Just as in the quality of crude in Saudi Arabia is different to that of Venezuela.
Once the Water Module is built, it is placed into a suitable sized container (4 to 8 liters) and the selected fresh water poured in to cover completely the Module, DC is connected to 2 of the cylinders AND THEN one touches the container and while thinking about the consistency of oil asks the apparatus to 'make oil'. Some have called it the "Y" factor, others have noted that the Bio Electric Magnetic Field of the experimenter effects the CREATION device.
Remember, we are playing with the 'creative' forces of plasma, not fire or thermonuclear or exothermic or destructive but the creative or endothermic forces. So thoughts count (thought or mind energy is plasma too). After 'tuning' ALL electromagnetic bodies, one turns on the DC power (a 12 volt car battery will do nicely but a AC to DC power supply is not so messy) and the water slowly turns into oil that burns, tastes and smells just like brand new engine oil or heavy grade container ship fuel. It will do this for just pennies a gallon. You have been conned by the word fossil and unable to break free of the brainwashing.
Now it would benefit me greatly if you heaped scorn and disbelief upon me for to do so will keep this technology from being removed from public viewing and availability and the added benefit that I will live a long (but not necessarily prosperous) life.
Now for (2) Any liquid waste product into fresh water. This is even more classified and confidential but still available for those who NEED to SEE.
A stainless steel pipe has magnets placed over it in such a FOURmat that when acid mine waste/raw sewerage/'salt water etc is pumped through the pipe it exits pipe as fresh drinking water. Device can be as simple as one pipe with 2 magnets or a 'muffler' construction with 4 magnets and 2 washers equaling 8 items easily bought on ebay. There are no filters nor nothing else. Shit into drinking water. Oil into drinking water. You name it into drinking water. When this device was shown to the University of Queensland all they could do after seeing 4 x 1000 liter tanks of varying fluids being turned into water and taking samples before and after and taking 2 weeks to analysis same, was to ask for the demonstration to be repeated as they just couldn't get their head around what was done. Same with the second University where the demo was also done in the car park. Please, no take it to Uni remarks. They wont sign off on a result and stake their name to such a fanciful device regardless of functionality.
Another device which was built as a car muffler Electromagnetically restructured the exhaust into clean breathable air. In fact, this car muffler device should be put on the outlet of air conditioners in hospitals to speed up healing times. This Technology is limitless. Its what created the Earth.
Its also politically incorrect to make carbon disappear nor in the national interests of global oil hegemony security.
So where does this leave the theory of plasma as defined in the (theoretical) Essential Guide chapter 3?
It means that as the theory it just doesnt stake up.
Electrons, Neutrons, Protons, IONS, quarks or any other PARTICLE in particle theory of the Atom is NOT a piece of the construct of the theoretical atom. Water is not dihydrogen monoxide. In Fact Hydrogen and Oxygen as "elements" do not exist. What is created by 'electrolysis' is extremely positively charged water vapor and extremely negatively charged water vapor that have been labelled as hydrogen and oxygen.

Before you all get your knickers in a knot, this is but the tip of the iceberg and remember there are 1000's of more results that leave the above Electromagnetically restructuring of water experiments pale in comparison.
You would be wise to ask questions to learn more rather than ridicule (although ridicule falls under the heading there are no dumb questions, only dumb answers)
Now for the answer as to what Plasma really is?
Absolutely everything you can touch, taste, smell, feel and hear not to mention see with the other sense too, is 100% plasma. A rock is congealed plasma. Air is 100% plasma. the Sun is 100% plasma (we will get to the sun and space in a future post) the Aether is plasma. Water is Plasma. Get the drift?
What chapter 3 fails to explain is
What is heat?
How plasma makes matter
What Matter is.
What is a magnetic force
What is a magnetic field
What is "free charges"
How does spinning magnets free up "electrons".
Why it takes a COIL to heat water with 'electricity" verses a straight wire. (the nature of the 90 degree interaction of opposite charges)
What is the difference between magnetically generated electricity and chemically generated electricity.
What is electricity? (electrons just cannot exist to change water into oil and oil into water with just the addition of 'electrons''? Doesn't add up)
Plasma is the FIRST state of ALL matter and constitutes ALL matter and forms aggregates to give the illusion of "particle matter".
Matter is (100%) energy, frequency and vibration. to Quote Tesla.

Yes I have made a lot of claims, made promises to define the atomic structure with just plasma. And even held that video proof is available and laboratory experiments for the responsible.
This is going to take more than one post obviously and while not wishing to drag it out all in good time.
For the impatient, magneticwaterscience.com has lots of theory, pictures and password protected (protects my security) videos.
Forget all you know, it helps to understand Field Science better. There are no particles of solid matter. Everything exists a a Magnetic Resonant Field pattern of Plasma Energy Constructs. The stable naturally occurring form of which on Earth we call Water at room temperature.
The bottom line.... I really dont care if anyone here takes me seriously. The point is, at some time in the future the internet armchair experts will trace the history of who was FIRST to state what the Plasma Universe is publicly and with proof albeit it with password or traveling to Australia. Thats just the world we live in.
More later
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby Eric_Jorgensen » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:16 pm

Ever heard of Elementary Wave Theory? I think I'm going to make a thread about it when I have a little time

https://youtu.be/cmM8Dr3Hbb0


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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby MerLynn » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:36 pm

The problem with that video is its based upon firing of electrons.
The crux of the New Atomic Theory is that NO particles make up any atoms. Neither exist as portrayed in the old particle theory as represented in the Periodic table. 'Electrons' (small energy parcels) do not constitute any shell of any 'atom'.
An electron is just like a small house brick. Both are made up of only plasma.
The electron is the heart of the problem. everything science does involves 'electrons'. So the entire theory of the EU must have electrons. There is no proof that spinning magnets gather 'electrons' and they are carried on the OUTSIDE of wires. (not internal as multi strands carry more current than a thick wire) This is just a theory and it it was picked up and ran with. Where does all the electrons come from in a car battery? The maths just doesn't add up. The Neutron was postulated to exist to balance the mass equation of the theoretical 'atom' to keep the mathematicians happy.
When a magnet passes by a copper coil collector, what is being collected? Look at it and think for yourself.
It can only be deduced that the copper collector is collecting pulses of magnetic energy.
This was Tesla's legacy. He invented a way to utilize the energy of magnets at a distance with wires. Its possible to utilize magnetic energy in situ negating the need for wires. (more on this later)
I dont dispute the fact that plasma can 'congeal' or form Magnetic Resonant Field Patterns of any size. The particle collidor will just smash energy clumps into ever smaller parcels but a nobel boson will be forthcoming to justify the theory. This is how it snowballs into acceptance. Electrons being the energy of an atom was invented the same way.
To explain energy we need a new understanding of 'electricity'. This is the core of the EU is it not?
Water drops falling from heaven create electricity. Magnets create electricity. Rubbing amber creates electricity (its where the word 'electron' came from) If two plates separated by salt water creates electricity is it not possible that two tectonic plates in a saline solution will melt rock creating a volcano?
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby kevin » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:24 pm

Merlynn,
Most welcome.
PLASMA???
Perhaps such is actuallly CONSCIOUSNESS?

It enables creation into 3D, the reality We exist in, it operates across dimensions and condenses in compression , then further acting under attraction to self similer.
All of this within a solid universe where instant communication exists between self similer creations, lets say that one cell will respond to it's self similer instructions.
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby MerLynn » Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:12 am

Democritis, would have studied Thales as he was several hundred years after. Thales said everything is Water and Life is in everything. Democritis simplified the teaching and is remembered for the smallest unit of which everything is constructed 'the atom'. I will get to the structure of this 'atom' soon but given the energy of the sun, the moon the mind, the soul the tomato the insect are all constructed from this one 'format' of energy or the atom this is how everything is connected to everything. Even the Aether upon which all matter moves or rests is similar to this "delta bar of energy'.
This is the science of Emoto and his mind effected (or prayer) water crystals. Even DNA is a structure of the 4 sided, 6 delta bar pyramidal structure Democritis call the atom. So it is not only possible but easily understood how to effect the DNA of germinating seeds with the power of a mind/spirit acting upon same,
Anastasia (ringing cedars) said to hold a seed under your tongue for 4 minutes before planting so the seed will generate the 'frequencies' that are deficient in your body so the fruit of the plant becomes medicine.
Life is in everything, the Earth is a sentiment being.
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby MerLynn » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:42 am

The New Atomic Structure of Water
By Lynn Eykamp Copyrighted.

Introduction

The more inquisitive of scientific investigators have questioned whether Dihydrogen Monoxide actually exists in a pure state or even if it can exist at all. Examples of such discussions can be found at;
www.phil.upenn.edu/~weisberg/papers/waterfinal.pdf
http://www.researchgate.net/publication ... is_not_H20
http://forums.philosophyforums.com/thre ... 50-11.html
Google gives 9 million hits to “water is not H2O”

What can be gleaned from this debate is ‘who really knows’ and that’s assuming water is actually H2O. There have even been movies about “Water-The Great mystery” but academia is firmly entrenched in that water is H20 despite all the anomalies. Theories have anomalies, facts do not.

This The New Atomic Structure of Water is a condensed written personal study on the subject of what is water and what water can do. Studying for more than twenty years in various locations and with gifted inventors to document and record some remarkable experiments and devices all based upon water.

Any New Theory must be backed up with experiments and lots of them. Some of these experiments have been done 100’s of times. All experimental results referred to have been done and can be done again. This is not scientific fiction but repeatable science facts, even if the results test the imagination of the reader.

The only 3 sources on the internet that exemplify the New Atomic Structure of Water are;

http://www.keshefoundation.org/webshop/product/view/1/2


Q Mechanics available at amazon.com

Basic Methodology of Field Science
Found at magneticwaterscience.com

First the Theory.

In the book by Keshe "Structure of Light" it basically says light is, that it is the release or emission of astronomically large numbers of these "cylindrical plasma, where the plasma of the light is in possession of all three magnetic fields strength of the matters of the plasma (the principal, transition and the matter magnetic fields)."

The Electric Sun/Universe Theory refers to the Sun’s Plasma but fails to identify its structure. https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/ but it does call into question what ‘matter’ is. It fails in any meaningful understanding as they still think in terms of particles like electrons and protons ie “the fields are generated by electrons spinning around the nuclei of the atoms”. A theory based upon a theory to explain what’s visible to the eye. Does the moon spinning around the Earth create the magnetic field surrounding the Earth? If matter spinning around matter creates magnetism it should not matter the size of our particles remember, this IS the Electro/magnetic Universe. One acts as an emitter and the other as a collector? Has anyone postulated this spinning solar system’s planetary as the origins of the suns magnetic field? They are symbiotic not independent. This interaction of Neutronic Fields is what gravity is in simplistic symbology.

In the Basic Methodology of Field Science, being written some 4 years after the book Q Mechanics is a more graphic explanation of the book, where its authors set forth a new approach to the atomic structure and what this means for inventors. It was the book that spawned a R & D Co to invent along these insights. The basic thrust, and this came 10 years or more before Keshe, was that matter/energy was a format of energy bars forming a pyramidal structure. Keshe calls them ‘cylindrical plasma’ and the simplest structure that can be formed by these ‘cylindrical plasma’ bars is one with 6 bars to form a 4 sided pyramid.

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Image from Games and Theory Skrinjar

This 4 sided pyramid structure made of 6 cylindrical plasma bars, is the "atom" that Democritis was referring to when he stated the 'atom' was the smallest parcel of matter and all of creation is composed of this 'atom' in varying amounts. Thales 624 -546 BC was one of the Seven Sages of Greece. Many, most notably Aristotle, regard him as the first philosopher in the Greek tradition. Aristotle 384-322 BC reported Thales' hypothesis that the originating principle of nature and the nature of matter was a single material substance: water. Democritus 460-370 BC would have been fully conversant with Thales as he came before Aristotle when he expounded or simplified even, the understanding of the Atom (4 sided energy structure) as the only building block for ‘matter’. Historians prefer to forget Thales’ influence on Democritus. Thales and Democritus didn’t just dream this all up. History and archaeology have been mostly ruled by the Islamic doctrine that nothing is to be dug up if it contravenes the Korans dating of man’s history that nothing is older than 4000 BC despite the water marks on the sphinx and only bronze tools.

From practical experiments conducted before Q Mechanics, and prototypes but from the bools concepts plus ongoing for the last 25 years of more prototypes by a gifted inventor and the theoretical experiments from the differing “cell” or water module configurations to impart permanent magnetic memory changes to water. Or Electro-Magnetically Restructuring Water into Oil, Coal, Tea Tree Oil or kerosene. Or Electro-Magnetically restructuring the human bodies stored toxic wastes to be restructured into inert excretable wastes.

There are many sources that demonstrate water is affected by magnetism and electricity and exhibits strange properties like attraction to magnetism and memory. A magnet placed on internally corroded water pipes will slowly remove the corrosion. Electro-Magnetically restructuring the calcium into WATER. (well dissolved in your words) What if a Magnetic Field Generation device was placed in a bucket with rocks and within seconds the rocks turned into water? Or raw sewerage turned into fresh drinking water in seconds? There are some pictures of this having been done 100’s of times at magneticwaterscience.com

If (sun) light is ‘cylindrical plasma’ or bars of energy that heat up ‘matter’, then what is fire from a match, what is lightning from a rain cloud and what is a light emitting diode or filament in a light bulb if not exactly the same thing. What happens to the Bars of light/plasma when they cool down? What is ‘radiation of energy’? Does the words X-rays, Infrared rays explain anything about its structure of why it vibrates? In any search for an ‘element’ its ‘frequency’ is sought not the size of its nucleus. Something is vibrating or spinning or both. Fluid dynamics is all about vibration and application/removal of plasma energy conglomerates. Given their nature is like a bar magnet they quickly attach to other similar vibrating bars and so are rarely, if ever, found as a singularity. Fluid Dynamics includes rocks as ‘everything is (a formatted field of) water’ some are just frozen differently and under Geo Magnetic forces its why rock strata can be bent and looped out of shape. Doesn’t require heat just a magnetic field disturbance. Similar to removing calcium from pipes. It doesn’t always require heat/boiling to get the water to dissolve more salt or other impurity. Or in New Science terms, It doesn’t always require plasma conglomerates to get the impurities (other frequencies of vibrating plasma pyramids) to electromagnetically restructure into pure Water, the natural harmonic of Element W. Just an understanding of magnetic fields. Cold Fusion.

What is heat if light emitting fire can affect water on the other side of a boiling pot? The electron theory invented in 1896 fails in how its made as an explanation. If “electrons” are responsible for light and heat and motive force and are made either by a chemical interaction or from spinning magnets, where do all the electrons come from in either case? How do electrons come from fire or acid between plates of lead? The explanations are all theories.
This is an important point to remember. Theories are not facts. Theories are and were only ever imagined chains of events to explain nature.

The Particle Science of Nuclei inhabited with Protons has so many holes and exceptions it could only have been designed by a committee of scientists. What could be simpler than a singular structure of Light Bar or Light Plasma Bar, being Democritis’s ‘atom’ as the singular building block for all of creation built with a never ending chain of ‘little magnets’ in an infinite 3 Dimensional kaleidoscope parcels of energy that have intercourse with their electricity.

Higgs Boson? You just cant make this matter up.

Man only tends to believe that which his imagination can devise apparatus’s to detect to explain what which he doesn’t understand. The thermo nuclear particle theory of the sun being a hydrogen and helium endless chain reaction until it runs out of steam is so Piscean Age of the Dreamers. Welcome fellow travellers to the Age of Aquarian Enlightment. The Plasma Universe is finally explained to the smallest “particle”.
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby toni » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:15 pm

The Plasma Universe explained!
This is just a beginning and it might take us just little bit longer to leave the old concepts behind. In my research concerning plasma or 0 universe or ether, I found a very interesting view of it. Everything comes from it and goes back to it. It is the equilibrium of our universe. If the Creator wants to create the sun, the sun would be on one side and the black hole would be its other side of the coin. The energy of the sun is created by the lenses of the poles focusing the energy towards the center. This is the optical universe. Everything is done through concavity and convexity. In 1942, or it could be some time earlier, Tesla for the first time, put this in his notes which were hidden from us. With this idea in mind, he created a coil that would have the equator in the middle. Meaning, two energies are working as one - one is creating pressure and the other a vacuum or - one is winding and the other is unwinding. One belongs to the red spectrum and the other the blue spectrum. Nature divides her coil into female and male. The generative action is centripetal, spiraling towards the equator and the radiating action is centrifugal spiraling towards the base of the magnetic planes. This universe should be called 'magnetic-electric universe' meaning that magnetic white light is controlling the electric universe. The coils that are created in the same fashion with a higher flow of electricity through them, will create a higher vortex between them, increasing the efficiency. The test would be very inexpensive to determine the truthfulness of these statements.
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby Corpuscles » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:29 pm

Hi all

MerLynn wrote:OK fellow Scientists and Researchers.

Bear in mind if you meet the criteria of a serious investigator you can join the ranks of several hundred others to have seen the following done literally 1000's of times.

(some of)The results can be categorized under the following experiments.
(a)Electro-Magnetically restructuring fresh drinking water into crude "saudi like" oil. (abiotic)
(b)Electro-Magnetically restructuring any oil waste product into fresh drinking water.
(c)Electro-Magnetically restructuring ANY liquid into fresh drinking water, including liquid concrete, fresh raw sewerage, or abattoir effluent like guts, fats, bodily fluids any liquid in fact.
(d) making fresh drinking water burn like petrol and making water nonburnable in situations where it does burn like an oil or plastic fire. (making water put out ALL fires with just a mist) For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.
(e) Electro-Magnetically restructuring fresh water into any other liquid that's "watery". A process we call Chemical Emulation but this subject is NOT up for discussion. (at this time)

How is it done you ask. Impossible you say. Fantasy you scream. No, its simply understanding magnetic fields and the construct of the atomic structure and duplicating what the Earths Magnetic Fields do to 'matter' on this planet Earth. You can not begin to understand the Universe or the Sun til you understand the nature of the Earth.
But lets elaborate on just one experiment.
(a) Fresh drinking water into 'saudi like' crude oil.

Now it would benefit me greatly if you heaped scorn and disbelief upon me for to do so will keep this technology from being removed from public viewing and availability and the added benefit that I will live a long (but not necessarily prosperous) life.


Yes I have made a lot of claims, made promises to define the atomic structure with just plasma. And even held that video proof is available and laboratory experiments for the responsible.

MerLynn


Whilst, I am aware that the vast majority of the regular posters on this forum have far too much scientific knowledge to be sucked into to this "snake oil" salesman's con pitch, a note to casual ignorant lurkers ....
PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS and AWARE and DO NOT CONTRIBUTE YOUR MONEY to this "research".

Can you imagine what would happen if someone could magically turn waste or salt water into crude oil?
Would they not have tankers just offshore making millions of barrels and not need to promote or need funds?
No need to pretend they have "demonstrated" to Universities, but that makes it seem they are fair dinkum! No?

Or given large tracts of Queensland is suffering from extended drought, out there turning sewage into frseh water, instead of doing promotion on internet forums. The thirsty farmers wouldn't care how it is done and would pay.. if THEY COULD ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATE IT!

The answer will be they are just a sincere humble group of guys and need further funds to commercialise the development of it.

Then you will be invited to beautiful Lismore , New South Wales, Australia for a no charge intensive demonstration.
Which is a brain washing session, and after all the trouble you have put them through, to try and get these new concepts into your mind, but you haven't got it yet (too dumb), THEN asked to contribute to the ongoing research fund.

Clearly the Wizard magician has no idea whatsoever as to what plasma is? But he has to pick a "common interest" to suck you in.

Again...... PLEASE BEWARE!

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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby MerLynn » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:14 pm

Whilst, I am aware that the vast majority of the regular posters on this forum have far too much scientific knowledge to be sucked into to this "snake oil" salesman's con pitch, a note to casual ignorant lurkers ....
PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS and AWARE and DO NOT CONTRIBUTE YOUR MONEY to this "research".

Having too much of disinformation as scientific theory only contributes to ridicule. For which I thank you. But stay tuned there's a whole lot more to come. And its free. Some of it for the first time here on Thunderbolts.

Can you imagine what would happen if someone could magically turn waste or salt water into crude oil?
Would they not have tankers just offshore making millions of barrels and not need to promote or need funds?
No need to pretend they have "demonstrated" to Universities, but that makes it seem they are fair dinkum! No?

Not only do we imagine, we also create. There is a magically waste water turner into fresh water thats been in operation on the gold coast now for 6 weeks. The fresh water into crude video is presently not password protected at magneticwaterscience.com Just because its impossible in YOUR science terms doesnt mean its impossible. Remember magic is but one level of technology above that which YOU do not understand. What would make it fairdinkum is you getting off your podium and doing some field studies.If you want to call me a liar please do it in plain english.

Or given large tracts of Queensland is suffering from extended drought, out there turning sewage into frseh water, instead of doing promotion on internet forums. The thirsty farmers wouldn't care how it is done and would pay.. if THEY COULD ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATE IT!

The sewerage into fresh water (or any liquid as stated) has been videoed many times, even videos of the videoing. Some notable and verifiable events. The former Director of Earth Resources from Victoria (send me an email and I will give you contact details for verification) had to return for a second demo to see this done twice as he "just couldnt get his head around where the salts went". A professor Pearsons of WA (dont mind giving his details as he tried to appropriate the technology inappropriately) made several viewing trips. Most of the dozens of demonstrations the participants brought their own waters just to be sure. Yes we can ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATE IT!

The answer will be they are just a sincere humble group of guys and need further funds to commercialise the development of it.

What else can you say in the absence of you doing anything orter than field research but internet knock. After 25 years we have heard it all. Can you please come up with something original? We have NOT asked anyone EVER for funds. In fact we never will. You cannot buy it. you cannot own it. BUT you can view it anytime. As 1000's of people have and impressed too. Clue here as to how to be a participant in this technology like a few others have is to be original in what you want this technology for. We are not about giving mankind MORE technology to destroy this planet either by increasing population or ability to kill more efficiently. We are about cleaning it up.

Then you will be invited to beautiful Lismore , New South Wales, Australia for a no charge intensive demonstration.
Which is a brain washing session, and after all the trouble you have put them through, to try and get these new concepts into your mind, but you haven't got it yet (too dumb), THEN asked to contribute to the ongoing research fund.

There is a charge, everything has a charge factor even plasma. Your brain clearly needs washing of the old 'theories'. And there aint no better way to do it than with devices. Words wont work. So its a trip to sunny Byron Bay or nothing.

Clearly the Wizard magician has no idea whatsoever as to what plasma is? But he has to pick a "common interest" to suck you in.

That includes the Keshe Foundation and the book "structure of light" too?

Again...... PLEASE BEWARE!

Yes BE AWARE Next is the theory of Fusion both cold and hot.

Cheers

Thank you immensely for the opportunity to continue to expand on what Plasma Is and how to play with it for the benefit of mankind
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby Corpuscles » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:33 pm

Hi
My final comments (hopefully) in blue italic


MerLynn wrote:Whilst, I am aware that the vast majority of the regular posters on this forum have far too much scientific knowledge to be sucked into to this "snake oil" salesman's con pitch, a note to casual ignorant lurkers ....
PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS and AWARE and DO NOT CONTRIBUTE YOUR MONEY to this "research".

Having too much of disinformation as scientific theory only contributes to ridicule. For which I thank you. But stay tuned there's a whole lot more to come. And its free. Some of it for the first time here on Thunderbolts.

It is very clear to those of us who have been around at TB for a while what plasma is as articulated in great detail by experienced plasma scientists like Wal Thornhill and your host Dave Talbott.
Note to moderators: Check out this "new" explaination of plasma is completely at odds with the known definition and contrary to all EU theory, as promoted by the Thunderbolt's team


Can you imagine what would happen if someone could magically turn waste or salt water into crude oil?
Would they not have tankers just offshore making millions of barrels and not need to promote or need funds?
No need to pretend they have "demonstrated" to Universities, but that makes it seem they are fair dinkum! No?

Not only do we imagine, we also create. There is a magically waste water turner into fresh water thats been in operation on the gold coast now for 6 weeks. The fresh water into crude video is presently not password protected at magneticwaterscience.com Just because its impossible in YOUR science terms doesnt mean its impossible. Remember magic is but one level of technology above that which YOU do not understand. What would make it fairdinkum is you getting off your podium and doing some field studies.If you want to call me a liar please do it in plain english.

So, is this a private installation on the Gold Coast? Part of your gang? Or is it a respectable commercial arms length customer? Please provide contact details for verification.
Why did you not seek media coverage? Why has no one seen it on TV yet? Too early and it's gunna happen ...I hear you imagine/claim?


Or given large tracts of Queensland is suffering from extended drought, out there turning sewage into frseh water, instead of doing promotion on internet forums. The thirsty farmers wouldn't care how it is done and would pay.. if THEY COULD ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATE IT!

The sewerage into fresh water (or any liquid as stated) has been videoed many times, even videos of the videoing. Some notable and verifiable events. The former Director of Earth Resources from Victoria (send me an email and I will give you contact details for verification) had to return for a second demo to see this done twice as he "just couldnt get his head around where the salts went". A professor Pearsons of WA (dont mind giving his details as he tried to appropriate the technology inappropriately) made several viewing trips. Most of the dozens of demonstrations the participants brought their own waters just to be sure. Yes we can ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATE IT!

Videos!? Mean Nothing ! Have you seen the magicians Dynamo or Bren Green have full on documentary film crews produce live filmed , staggering slight of hand famous magic shows.

I am surprised that long haired hippy guy that claims to be Director of Earth Sciences is still alive. When I spoke to him , magically "happened" to be in the neighbourhood 2000km from "home" to drop in remember? He could not answer any questions relating to the now long defunct Victorian Govt Dept. He knew a bit about art galleries though! LOL!


As for someone trying to appropriate inappropriately (steal) you are admitting there is a cost and it is not "free " information you are offering this forum and the world. It comes at a COST!
The answer will be they are just a sincere humble group of guys and need further funds to commercialise the development of it.

What else can you say in the absence of you doing anything orter than field research but internet knock. After 25 years we have heard it all. Can you please come up with something original? We have NOT asked anyone EVER for funds. In fact we never will. You cannot buy it. you cannot own it. BUT you can view it anytime. As 1000's of people have and impressed too. Clue here as to how to be a participant in this technology like a few others have is to be original in what you want this technology for. We are not about giving mankind MORE technology to destroy this planet either by increasing population or ability to kill more efficiently. We are about cleaning it up.

Well , I and several others were asked for funds and a "donation". Also others foolishly outlayed major amounts to purchase some of these gadgets. I stayed in touch, and embarrassed as they were , they admitted they did not ever work!


Then you will be invited to beautiful Lismore , New South Wales, Australia for a no charge intensive demonstration.
Which is a brain washing session, and after all the trouble you have put them through, to try and get these new concepts into your mind, but you haven't got it yet (too dumb), THEN asked to contribute to the ongoing research fund.

There is a charge, everything has a charge factor even plasma. Your brain clearly needs washing of the old 'theories'. And there aint no better way to do it than with devices. Words wont work. So its a trip to sunny Byron Bay or nothing.

Oh , so it is no longer Lismore? Business "donations" been good ?and moved up the road to the beach or have you lot been kicked out of town?

It should be obvious to anyone , and especially you, that I have made the trip and seen " the demonstration"
The Joe X cell... that does not work and could not be demonstrated to work !
The rain making machine... much of the country still in drought!
The colloidal silver devices.. have you poisoned anyone yet? :o

Yes, I have seen the Magnetic "water purifier" tube too and had the Demo!

Yes folks they have every wacko device imaginable for sale and they are also in need of massive development capital ......for the benefit of mankind! ;)


Clearly the Wizard magician has no idea whatsoever as to what plasma is? But he has to pick a "common interest" to suck you in.

That includes the Keshe Foundation and the book "structure of light" too?

Again...... PLEASE BEWARE!

Yes BE AWARE Next is the theory of Fusion both cold and hot.

Cheers

Thank you immensely for the opportunity to continue to expand on what Plasma Is and how to play with it for the benefit of mankind



Yes this hopefully will be my last post on the subject. Hopefully the moderators will compare your take on what plasma is with the Thunderbolts teams view and realise your malicious advertising here is contrary to the TB team objectives.

THINK READERS.. this if valid in any way would be the greatest technological breakthrough in the 21century if true!

BUT it is a SCAM! :evil: but some ignorant souls , perhaps the great "MerLynn" wizard himself, are so ignorant they don't understand the chief wizards magic either... ie totally brainwashed they have a secret!
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby MerLynn » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:37 am

It is very clear to those of us who have been around at TB for a while what plasma is as articulated in great detail by experienced plasma scientists like Wal Thornhill and your host Dave Talbott.
Note to moderators: Check out this "new" explaination of plasma is completely at odds with the known definition and contrary to all EU theory, as promoted by the Thunderbolt's team

In reality no one knows what plasma is and certainly the bottom line here at TB is its a 4th state of matter. IT IS UNDEFINED. Pull your head in, why the venomous attack, a theory is just a theory. Mine comes from 20 years research and only the last 7 with some one else s devices. Yours form the internet.

So, is this a private installation on the Gold Coast? Part of your gang? Or is it a respectable commercial arms length customer? Please provide contact details for verification.
Why did you not seek media coverage? Why has no one seen it on TV yet? Too early and it's gunna happen ...I hear you imagine/claim?

Its overseas... longer than your sight. We dont have to verify anything. Its available for demonstrations to interested parties. I dont watch TV. Intelligent people turn it off. Such love for your fellow man. What on earth has got you so abusive today? The design parameters does not allow people who are mad at the world to successfully use the Creative Forces of the Universe and construct harmonious Aether Plasma devices. This is part of the IP and yes its written down but you have delayed its release as free info. Only about 90 posts to go as this isnt going to happen in one post more like 100. If you havent got anything constructive and non abusive to say I would appreciate it you stick to your word that you've made your last post.

Videos!? Mean Nothing ! Have you seen the magicians Dynamo or Bren Green have full on documentary film crews produce live filmed , staggering slight of hand famous magic shows.

I am surprised that long haired hippy guy that claims to be Director of Earth Sciences is still alive. When I spoke to him , magically "happened" to be in the neighbourhood 2000km from "home" to drop in remember? He could not answer any questions relating to the now long defunct Victorian Govt Dept. He knew a bit about art galleries though! LOL!

As for someone trying to appropriate inappropriately (steal) you are admitting there is a cost and it is not "free " information you are offering this forum and the world. It comes at a COST!

If I didn't have any videos now that would mean nothing. But there exists many and I have only made limited availability to 3. Its good to see you watch magic shows to relieve your stress.
I have no idea what long haired hippy you refer to.
It was the Director of Earth Resources for the Victorian Govt who reported directly to the Minister. He was Director of Mines, carbon credits and coal and water amongst others. Whats the art gallery connection and how is art connected to hippies and govt?. I know not what you speak of.
You just cant come in here slinging off with just innuendos
Attempting to appropriate an idea or IP is a different kettle of fish that what you think. An idea or IP cannot be proven, nor ownership and so doesn't involve offering or selling or a cost (its why non disclosure agreements exist). Once spoken or demonstrated its forever free. Patents give everybody the right to build ONE for themselves. So the principle is given, the theory is given and if some one wants more then a demo is given what is not given is the a few secrets like a magnet has 8 poles and you need to line them up in any configuration. So any patent being used as a personal project device will not work. But you knew that didnt you. Youve seen it.


Well , I and several others were asked for funds and a "donation". Also others foolishly outlayed major amounts to purchase some of these gadgets. I stayed in touch, and embarrassed as they were , they admitted they did not ever work!


The inventor and myself have never ever asked for funds to further our inventions. Nor have we sought donations.
I dont know what scam artist you have been conned by but clearly many have tried to impersonate as the inventors representative just to scam people I guess like you for.....
what for it
in your words
[color=#FF0080]THINK READERS.. this if valid in any way would be the greatest technological breakthrough in the 21century if true!

Me thinks you must have been scammed by some long haired hippy and bought his fake cells made without knowing the appropriate IP.
In which case take it up with him not me. I didnt do anything you claim nor did the inventor. And at this point in time I doubt if you have ever met the genius behind any of these inventions would that be correct?
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Oh , so it is no longer Lismore? Business "donations" been good ?and moved up the road to the beach or have you lot been kicked out of town?

It should be obvious to anyone , and especially you, that I have made the trip and seen " the demonstration"
The Joe X cell... that does not work and could not be demonstrated to work !
The rain making machine... much of the country still in drought!
The colloidal silver devices.. have you poisoned anyone yet? :o

Yes, I have seen the Magnetic "water purifier" tube too and had the Demo!

Yes folks they have every wacko device imaginable for sale and they are also in need of massive development capital ......for the benefit of mankind! ;)


Why are you so angry. Here I am, giving you another view of the Plasma theory, backed up with 1000's of personal experiments from some of the most fantastic devices ever seen and you come at me with this shit?
DID you get a demonstration from Joe himself? Or some long haired hippy impersonating and conning gullible people?
The answer to that question saving you the hassle of apologizing is that NO you never met the inventor. You met an IP appropriator claiming to be the inventor. A long haired hippy named Peter yes?
No you have not had the DEMO. You had a DEMO of a fake copy NOT what was shown to two Universities, several Ministers from Local and Overseas Gov'ts and Many specialists in their fields.
The Inventor and I are not in need of anything. You are being abusive to the wrong people. Yes you were CONNED. Such is Life. A few individuals of mankind have already benefited though by real inventions not fake copies like you bought. Long haired Peter does have a lot to answer for and will get a special mention in any publications.


Yes this hopefully will be my last post on the subject. Hopefully the moderators will compare your take on what plasma is with the Thunderbolts teams view and realise your malicious advertising here is contrary to the TB team objectives.

THINK READERS.. this if valid in any way would be the greatest technological breakthrough in the 21century if true!

BUT it is a SCAM! :evil: but some ignorant souls , perhaps the great "MerLynn" wizard himself, are so ignorant they don't understand the chief wizards magic either... ie totally brainwashed they have a secret!


I hope you realise that yes you were conned. But not by the Inventor or myself. I feel sorry for you. But it does beg the question that how did the fool got the money in the first place to be parted from it?

The Thunderbolts team should be objective and perhaps they were right to move this to mad ideas as some posters seem to get mad. Im not yet the great MerLynn. You have broken all forum rules. Abusive response. Thinly veiled demands of expulsions. False accusations and a poor demeanor.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

But I thankyou most whole heartedly because if you hadn't taken such a ignorant stance the members and yourself would not have learned the truth.[color=#FF0000] So, the only sentenced that you said that was correct can now be repeated

THINK READERS.. this if valid in any way would be the greatest technological breakthrough in the 21century if true!


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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby Corpuscles » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:40 am

MerLynn wrote:DID you get a demonstration from Joe himself? Or some long haired hippy impersonating and conning gullible people?
The answer to that question saving you the hassle of apologizing is that NO you never met the inventor. You met an IP appropriator claiming to be the inventor. A long haired hippy named Peter yes?
No you have not had the DEMO. You had a DEMO of a fake copy NOT what was shown to two Universities, several Ministers from Local and Overseas Gov'ts and Many specialists in their fields.

The Inventor and I are not in need of anything. You are being abusive to the wrong people. Yes you were CONNED. Such is Life. A few individuals of mankind have already benefited though by real inventions not fake copies like you bought. Long haired Peter does have a lot to answer for and will get a special mention in any publications.


But I thankyou most whole heartedly because if you hadn't taken such a ignorant stance the members and yourself would not have learned the truth So, the only sentenced that you said that was correct can now be repeated

THINK READERS.. this ..if valid in any way, would be the greatest technological breakthrough in the 21century , if true




OK.

Maybe you are Joe's wife? Yes or No?

Did Joe ever live in Lismore NSW ? Yes or No?

.... Number 17 C------ St ? Yes or No????

Please describe the real "Joe"?

Why would you be aware that I might have met a dippy, rather fat, not especially long haired, "Peter"?

You claim this has been disclosed to international ministers and governments. So what is your purpose here?
You want to share your secret IP? If so provide evidence for these contacts. Lay it all out is that what you intend to do? If "secret" then perhaps you ought not promote more so called "impersonators"?

If you want to allude to this "secret" technology, but protect IP , then why are you desirous of teasing the internet world about it?

If you think there has been anger or hostility inferred (not initially intended ) then ... I confess ...I object to people making wild bizarre ridiculous claims, they will not and cannot substantiate!

Cheers
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby MerLynn » Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:14 am

Just OK?
Is that your apology for such blatant forum rule incursions?

What is your problem?
Why do you shoot the messenger?
Can you just debate the Subject matter?

Why do you feel such a need to know personal details and facts?
This is very poor manners and behavior.

But to answer your intrusive questions NOT related to Plasma theoretics
NO
Yes
Dont know
He is an honest man of Good
There are many dippy, rather fat, not especially long haired, "Peter"s in this world. I've met a few myself.
My purpose here is to enlighten fellow posters on one of the few websites in the world that have any (not a lot but) some understanding of Plasma, its structure and role in the Universe. And doing so from PERSONAL EXPERIMENTS and self built devices along with other ingenious devices too.
I do not have to provide evidence of PRIVATE MEETINGS WITH DIGNITARIES. What planet are you from.
My intention is to publish experimental data on the web relating to Plasma and Aether studies and this site in particular as the initial first publishing of NEW experimental data with back up related historical data available.
It is my opinion, that as this becomes more widely known (and it will) It will be a feather in TB site that it was published here first.
So far there have been TWO firsts in Theoretical writings.
I do not promote "impersonators" That is a serious allegation and thinly veiled inference and you should retract and apologize and rephrase that comment.

I am not teasing the internet about it.
To correct all the lies of science could never be done on any forum or any one site. Look at the success of TB. They have done a marvelous job correcting science misconceptions to (well they have but..... no one really cares as it has no impact on their football, petrol costs or food they eat yet.) I estimated at least 100 posts, and forum rules say a maximum of 3 per day. So last post for tonite.

You still have a personal attack about your posts.
Lift your game please,
Try commenting on my COLD FUSION theory. Better than all the rest. Worth Nobelling just for the imaginative thought. If I do say so myself. It might be just tooooo true for my security. I had to go meditate first on whether I clicked "submit" and so it screwed up the color and quotations in the save process.
The only cost that can be incurred is in substantiating. Having done it hundreds of times to just "tire kickers" we are a little more discerning about the substance of those wanting substantiation. Its not a 'cannot substantiate' but whats it worth to you to learn and request we open up the only Research Lab in the world worth a dam for some dumb ass even a Gov't Ministerial dumbocracy ass. It does not have a cost as its as PRICELESS as a double edged sword in this stone age. Err theoretical particle age.

The next major new publication will be on the subject of "Chemical Emulation" or how to Electro-Magnetically restructure Water into almost any Liquid. This is better than star trek. Now that the New Theory of Plasma has arrived its time to show how, when you change the basis of Science, you open up a whole universe of game changing inventions. Electrons as part of any atomic structure just do not exist. Thunderbolts still believes that electrons are found on the shells of atoms.... So flat earth. Stay tuned even if in the Mad Files.
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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby D_Archer » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:17 am

I cant follow this discussion, not clear who says what from the posts.

In any case it is clear Keshe "science" is not what it supposes to be. This is danger territory as corpuscles alluded, i think he is just trying to warn.

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Of course the thread title " The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is" can be discussed. But posting Keshe verbatim? i think that is not wise to do.

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Re: The Nature of the Atomic Structure and what Plasma is

Unread postby kevin » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:54 am

Merlynn,
As a dowser I am well used to been ridiculed.
It is akin to water off a ducks back.
I have learn't the hard way to FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY FOR THEY COULD NOT KNOW.

Human EGO field is really powerfull, and will fight to the death to protect the assumption of been correct.

Your message resonates true, shine on .
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