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'Welease Wosetta!'

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby GaryN » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:47 pm

In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller
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Re: No Thinking! Same ol' Stinking Sink'oles...

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby Steve Smith » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:23 am

The first color image composite of the comet looks gray:

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/imag ... _comet.jpg
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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby Steve Smith » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:28 am

Omni, that's right. Philae's hold-down thruster didn't fire -- probably for the best, since the harpoons also failed to fire and no ice-screw anchoring was possible. If the thruster had fired without the harpoon anchors, then once the engine stopped burning Philae would have leaped off the comet and into space.
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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby granite_crusher » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:08 am

..oh and I forgot to involve very important detail in my sublimation reasoning - density. If the comet density is less than ice, and if for minute we will agree with that snowball... then it means the comet have many caverns and pores. That means that surface for sublimation would be much much larger, and with prolonged sublimation the comet should just melt away. So now I am happy, I can use full set of the sublimation reasoning only in discussion with people who would be hard to convince with EU theory in first place. However, after converting them to mainstream theory skeptics they could be introduced to EU. :)
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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby dodeca » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:56 pm

yeah it was quite a dust party!”....

but no "water ballet" :

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http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2015/08/11 ... erihelion/
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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby Oliver Lightside » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:13 pm

Best view yet of a 'jet' contact point:
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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby S Freeman » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:19 pm

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby willendure » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:13 am

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby Oliver Lightside » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:57 am

Just a hunch, but I think we might see a new jet appear in the lower right foreground. This is based on the jets forming a hint of an equatorial hulu skirt around the waist of the comet.
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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby dodeca » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:32 am

Rosetta’s big day in the Sun:

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good timing..........

http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2015/08/13 ... n-the-sun/


sudden effect = discharge....?
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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby Frantic » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:26 pm

In the link from Dodeca they state water vapor is being shed at 300KG/s

Once again they are using indirect measurement of water vapor, correct? How do they reconcile this with the comparison of relative abundances shown in the graph of the previous particle. How do you account for disassociation of the CO, CO2, NH4,H2S, the incoming solar wind, and reactions with current materials in the coma?

This is the first time I saw the number of 300KG/s, or the previous number mentioned 300g/s. A 1000 fold increase. The abundances shown in the graph do not appear to show relation between jets and H2O content. Rather the changes in water shed, show a relation to solar wind concentrations. Rosetta reached 67P at 673M km,perihelion is 186M km. Just now the comet should be encountering the largest density of solar wind, right?

and next: They list dust shed at 1000kg/s, at this previous study : the mass loss was shown to be at most 250kg/s at perihelion. This number is greater than the 1000kg/s and 300kg/s. So of the material being "spewed" from the comet about 15% is being lost as mass, or the previous study was in error. So the idea of evaporation into space would come into question. The spewing material contributes to the atmosphere, reaction with the coma and the IPM generates the mass-loss and I don't know what correlation could be shown there between mass loss and surface material ejection.
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Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'

Unread postby S Freeman » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:14 am

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