Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
Leo Vuyk,
This topic has been split from a thread on the "Electric Universe - Planetary Science" board which is reserved for the discussion of topics in the published material of the Electric Universe.
Personal speculations and theories should be put on this sub forum (NIAMI board).
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Personal speculations and theories should be put on this sub forum (NIAMI board).
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Luckely next November 2014, we have Rosetta lander Philae to observe what the reality of Comets look like.If you really think that article is accurate then I believe we've lost you. Why invent dark matter, dark energy, Higgs particles and such when good 'ol fashioned plasma physics works just fine? You have a charged body traveling through an increasing voltage potentional, that's it.
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
Leo, what prediction does your hypothesis make?
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
Sparky,Sparky wrote:Leo, what prediction does your hypothesis make?
see: Evidence for Electric Dark Matter Black Hole dust production inside Comets like 67P,C-G.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1410.0039v2.pdf
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
I suspect that comets are highly charged electrostatic bodies - very similar to a big Van de Graff generator.
If I'm right, the Philae lander will most likely get zapped by a large electrical discharge as it approaches the surface of the comet - potentially crippling the lander.
On this one, I really hope I'm wrong...
I would like to see the lander successfully anchor itself to the comet's surface and do some cutting edge science.
Keep your fingers crossed... Cheers...
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
Per Electric Comet Theory, why should the comet and the probe have different charges, considering they've been for quite a while in the same solar orbit?Armand wrote:I suspect that comets are highly charged electrostatic bodies - very similar to a big Van de Graff generator.
If I'm right, the Philae lander will most likely get zapped by a large electrical discharge as it approaches the surface of the comet - potentially crippling the lander.
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
I assume that the esa engineers have been aware of the spark possibility by the design and building of the lander.antosarai wrote:Per Electric Comet Theory, why should the comet and the probe have different charges, considering they've been for quite a while in the same solar orbit?Armand wrote:I suspect that comets are highly charged electrostatic bodies - very similar to a big Van de Graff generator.
If I'm right, the Philae lander will most likely get zapped by a large electrical discharge as it approaches the surface of the comet - potentially crippling the lander.
Deep impact on Wild 2 has been the tell tale .
see: http://www.holoscience.com/wp/comet-tem ... ng-impact/
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
What esa measured already:
Dimensions (small lobe) 2.5 x 2.5 x 2.0 km
Dimensions (large lobe) 4.1 x 3.2 x 1.3 km
Rotation 12.4043 hours
Spin axis Right ascension: 69 degrees; Declination: 64 degrees
Mass 10^13 kg
Volume 25 km^3
Density 0.4 g/cm^3
Water vapour production rate 300 ml/sec (Jun 2014); 1–5 l/sec (Jul-Aug 2014) !!!
This is three glasses of water! per second.
Surface temperature 205–230K (Jul-Aug 2014)
Subsurface temperature 30–160K (Aug 2014)
Gases detected Water, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, ammonia, methane, methanol
Dust grains A few tens of microns to a few hundreds of microns
Dimensions (small lobe) 2.5 x 2.5 x 2.0 km
Dimensions (large lobe) 4.1 x 3.2 x 1.3 km
Rotation 12.4043 hours
Spin axis Right ascension: 69 degrees; Declination: 64 degrees
Mass 10^13 kg
Volume 25 km^3
Density 0.4 g/cm^3
Water vapour production rate 300 ml/sec (Jun 2014); 1–5 l/sec (Jul-Aug 2014) !!!
This is three glasses of water! per second.
Surface temperature 205–230K (Jul-Aug 2014)
Subsurface temperature 30–160K (Aug 2014)
Gases detected Water, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, ammonia, methane, methanol
Dust grains A few tens of microns to a few hundreds of microns
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
It seems that the water vapour coming from the comet vary from 1-5 litre per second, which I expect as originated by the the vapour jets observed from the neck.
"The MIRO team reported measurements made during the past three months that show that the amount of water vapour coming from the comet appears to vary as the nucleus rotates. They have measured a maximum rate of about 5 litres per second being lost by the comet, with an average rate of roughly 1 litre per second. This is markedly more than the comparatively modest rate of 300 millilitres per second measured in June."
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/09/15 ... er-vapour/
"The MIRO team reported measurements made during the past three months that show that the amount of water vapour coming from the comet appears to vary as the nucleus rotates. They have measured a maximum rate of about 5 litres per second being lost by the comet, with an average rate of roughly 1 litre per second. This is markedly more than the comparatively modest rate of 300 millilitres per second measured in June."
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/09/15 ... er-vapour/
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
Rosetta project began on 1993 and was launched on March, 2004.leo vuyk wrote:I assume that the esa engineers have been aware of the spark possibility by the design and building of the lander.
Deep impact on Wild 2 has been the tell tale .
Deep Impact to Wild 2 was on July 4th, 2005. How could any of its tales be used on Rosetta's design?
Besides, Deep Impact was certainly in quite a different solar orbit than Wild 2.
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
Ha Ha my stupid fault sorry.antosarai wrote:Rosetta project began on 1993 and was launched on March, 2004.leo vuyk wrote:I assume that the esa engineers have been aware of the spark possibility by the design and building of the lander.
Deep impact on Wild 2 has been the tell tale .
Deep Impact to Wild 2 was on July 4th, 2005. How could any of its tales be used on Rosetta's design?
Besides, Deep Impact was certainly in quite a different solar orbit than Wild 2.
conclusion, it may become tricky
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
What are they detecting? H2O from the comet or H2O surrounding the comet? What chemical reaction would produce water near the comet?"The MIRO team reported measurements made during the past three months that show that the amount of water vapour coming from the comet appears to vary as the nucleus rotates.
"It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong."
"Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one."
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
What do you judge for yourself?Sparky wrote:What are they detecting? H2O from the comet or H2O surrounding the comet? What chemical reaction would produce water near the comet?"The MIRO team reported measurements made during the past three months that show that the amount of water vapour coming from the comet appears to vary as the nucleus rotates.
see: http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/10/03 ... et-67pc-g/
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
New measurements of ions from comet 67P show already ( so long before entering strong solar influence) an unsuspected wealth of atoms.
see:
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/10/23 ... of-67pc-g/
"ROSINA has detected many more molecules. Indeed, as of our 11 September report, ROSINA’s inventory of detected gases 67P/C-G looked like this:
Water (H2O)
Carbon monoxide (CO)
Carbon dioxide (CO2)
Ammonia (NH3)
Methane (CH4)
Methanol (CH3OH)
But today we can report that the following have also been detected:
Formaldehyde (CH2O)
Hydrogen sulphide (H2S2)
Hydrogen cyanide (HCN)
Sulphur dioxide (SO2)
Carbon disulphide (CS2)"
see:
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/10/23 ... of-67pc-g/
"ROSINA has detected many more molecules. Indeed, as of our 11 September report, ROSINA’s inventory of detected gases 67P/C-G looked like this:
Water (H2O)
Carbon monoxide (CO)
Carbon dioxide (CO2)
Ammonia (NH3)
Methane (CH4)
Methanol (CH3OH)
But today we can report that the following have also been detected:
Formaldehyde (CH2O)
Hydrogen sulphide (H2S2)
Hydrogen cyanide (HCN)
Sulphur dioxide (SO2)
Carbon disulphide (CS2)"
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Re: Leo Vuyk's Comet Hypothesis
What quantities?
What would dissociate CH2O? Solar wind?
What would dissociate CH2O? Solar wind?
"It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong."
"Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one."
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