Pre-Flood Super Mind

[tholden]

An article being discussed on forums lately:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 042011.php

Scientists seeking to understand the origin of the human mind may want to look to honeybees -- not ancestral apes -- for at least some of the answers, according to a University of Colorado Boulder archaeologist.

CU-Boulder Research Associate John Hoffecker said there is abundant fossil and archaeological evidence for the evolution of the human mind, including its unique power to create a potentially infinite variety of thoughts expressed in the form of sentences, art and technologies. He attributes the evolving power of the mind to the formation of what he calls the "super-brain," or collective mind, an event that took place in Africa no later than 75,000 years ago.

An internationally known archaeologist who has worked at sites in Europe and the Arctic, Hoffecker said the formation

A "super brain" is roughly what you'd have if human communication prior to the incident associated with the tower of Babel were basically telepathic (which is one interpretation of Julian Jayne's findings), if Jaynes were correct in thinking that consciousness as we know it did not exist 4000 years ago, and if consciousness in those days were basically general rather than individual.

http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/babel.html

You'd have to give up on the evolutionary model and the gazillions of years of course...

Also the question of bipedalism does not seem to require any sort of a super brain, nor does it seem likely that Ambam has one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxDI3s21yf8

The correct model for a pre-flood "super brain" would be parallel computing and the idea of using networked desktop computers as poor-people's super computers such as you first saw with the Yale Linda system.

[Shrike]

Waxing and waning of the consciousness.

http://www.noetic.org/noetic/issue-eigh ... he-future/

We all know the two celestial motions that have a profound effect on life and consciousness. Diurnal motion, Earth’s rotation on its axis, causes humans to move from a waking state to a sleep state and back again every twenty-four hours. Our bodies have adapted to Earth’s rotation so well that it produces these regular changes in consciousness without our even thinking the process remarkable. Earth’s revolution around the sun —the second celestial motion, which Copernicus identified — has an equally significant effect, prompting trillions of life forms to spring out of the ground, to bloom, fruit, and then decay, while billions of other species hibernate, spawn, or migrate en masse. Our visible world literally springs to life, completely changes its color and stride, and then reverses with every waxing and waning of the second celestial motion.

The third celestial motion, the precession of the equinox, is less understood than the first two, but if we are to believe ancient cultures from around the world, its effect is equally transformative. What disguises the impact of this motion is its timescale. Like the mayfly, which lives but one day a year and knows nothing of the seasons, the human being has an average life span that comprises only one-360th of the roughly 24,000-year precessional cycle. And just as the mayfly born on an overcast, windless day has no idea that there is anything as splendid as sunshine or a breeze, so do we, born in an era of materialistic rationality, have little awareness of a golden age or higher states of consciousness – though that is the ancestral message.

And of coarse the hundred monkey theory.
linking brains (consciousness) on some sort of level to each other.

In 1952, on the island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkey liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but they found the dirt unpleasant.

An 18-month-old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in a nearby stream. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates also learned this new way and they taught their mothers too.

This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by various monkeys before the eyes of the scientists. Between 1952 and 1958 all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes to make them more palatable. Only the adults who imitated their children learned this social improvement. Other adults kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes.

Then something startling took place. In the autumn of 1958, a certain number of Koshima monkeys were washing sweet potatoes -- the exact number is not known. Let us suppose that when the sun rose one morning there were 99 monkeys on Koshima Island who had learned to wash their sweet potatoes. Let's further suppose that later that morning, the hundredth monkey learned to wash potatoes.

THEN IT HAPPENED!

By that evening almost everyone in the tribe was washing sweet potatoes before eating them. The added energy of this hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough!

http://www.wowzone.com/monkey.htm

[moses]

Then nothing happened - if you read the article:

http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC09/Myers.htm

Many older monkeys continued to not wash their sweet potatoes. So there is no evidence of there being a certain level or percentage of subjects that exhibit a behaviour, so that suddenly all the subjects exhibit that behaviour. Habits are much too hard-wired it seems.
Mo

[tholden]

Then nothing happened - if you read the article:

http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC09/Myers.htm

Many older monkeys continued to not wash their sweet potatoes. So there is no evidence of there being a certain level or percentage of subjects that exhibit a behaviour, so that suddenly all the subjects exhibit that behaviour. Habits are much too hard-wired it seems.
Mo

I've got no use for evolution... Just struck me as interesting that an evolutionist would sooner or later come to the idea of a planetary super mind in past ages.