Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

What is a human being? What is life? Can science give us reliable answers to such questions? The electricity of life. The meaning of human consciousness. Are we alone? Are the traditional contests between science and religion still relevant? Does the word "spirit" still hold meaning today?

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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:39 am

Webolife said:

We see what we want to see, and lust after it. We see ourselves as sophisticated (evolved) slime, then become it. We think of ourselves as the balancing of some randomizing equation, then prove it by solving the equation.


We really do seem to create our own “reality.” It’s too bad that we don’t understand that other people’s “realities” are often “improvements” upon our own.

Webolife said:

… the hope that the connectedness I see in the physical universe and the connectedness I feel with the universe are guiding principles to each other.


It does feel as if this is all a “test.” It is all about discovering that connectedness – the “as above, so below” connectedness.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Divinity » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:52 pm

Hi Lizzie, This is such an intelligent thread, thank you, all. My friends and I have been discussing the Electric Universe and what it means to humanity over on another forum, and I thought you might find this interesting. This post by user name "Femto" seems to cover a multitude of important issues humanity must face when It finally realises the Universe it resides in. It particularly relates to the philosophical/spiritual paradigms mankind has historically bought into. It's time for a paradigm change! :lol:

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Why would an electric universe change anything?

Through out the recorded and mythical history of humaninity, the certainty that all will end one day is the fundamental control/restriction applied to every facet of humanity's development: "The Big Bang; everything destroyed at end of cycle and you will meet your maker. The breath of Brahma, out then in. Black holes will destroy all galaxies".

Once the concept of "end" is embedded there will always be an "authority" to tell you how to discipline yourself to prepare for this event. 'Eternal' is reserved for the "creator", separate from the universe, hence the creator fixes its terms. There is always someone with access, of course, to the "creator" separate from all else. They will tell you/demand how you act.

The electric universe gives eternal to all. The universe and everything in it.

An electric universe provides the reasons/knowledge for all of our past and present beliefs. It shows us how and why we think/believe what we do. It answers the question,"why religion?". Why we are compelled to live in a certain way and not in a manner of common sense?

The electric universe gives meaning to all phenomena to- date assigned to either religious rapture "miracles" or psychic effects (E.S.P.). It shows us that we and the universe are constructed to interract in a manner that makes all these abilities normal.

The electric universe gives humanity the ability to support and sustain itself via resources that are free to be used without any effect on environments. IE: User friendly to all life.

The electric universe opens the door to our oneness with everything, with eternity to enjoy it, in the manner the universe conducts itself: continuous movement (being) with harmonious intent (purpose).

The electric universe changes everything forever.

How we apply those changes over the coming years is the challenge for us all. Getting there.
One thing, for sure, cycles are gone. Eternal has always been here, now it can be seen/felt/lived in 3D. Faith-based whatever is always in the hands of the teller. Why would anything be hidden? Has humanity not lived enough to deserve the telling?

It has, and the universe is here to tell it.
Quoting: Femto
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby junglelord » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:21 pm

I feel the same way about the Holographic Universe. The EU and the HU are mutally inclusive once you learn enough. Sooner or later, one must include these observations, as they are the language of nature.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Divinity » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:34 pm

Hey Junglelord, pleasure to meet you at last. I've been following your discoveries on reality very closely and thank you very much for your hard work and open sharing of your wisdom.

Quoting another friend of mine (also someone who reads Junglelord, LOL!):

[quote:nonmaterial structure]
Understanding why the universe gives "holographic" effect:

Quoting Junglord: From the Tom Bearden web page. Hundreds of Western papers dealing with time-reversed waves are now in the open scientific literature-most of them dealing with non-linear optics. However, the principles of the time-reversed wave are well-established, and known to apply to waves in general. This is Scalar Technology, It does not diverge and spread its energy. It should be noted that the nonlinear scalar is a primary archetype of the universe. Its importance cannot be understated. The ability to understand time reversal EM is fundamental to scalar technology. ... Anyone who does not credit time reversal as valid will never truly understand EM (Electromagnetism) or the EU (Electric Universe).


WEAPONS THAT USE TIME-REVERSED ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES

...Hundreds of Western papers dealing with time-reversed waves are now in the open scientific literature-most of them dealing with non-linear optics. However, the principles of the time-reversed wave are well-established, and known to apply to waves in general.

Compared to a normal wave, a time-reversed wave has startlingly different weapon capabilities.

Such a wave precisely retraces the path of the ordinary wave that stimulated it to be formed. So it possesses an "invisible wire" through space, back to the original position of whatever emitted its stimulus wave.

Further, the time-reversed wave continually converges upon its invisible "back- tracking" path. It does not diverge and spread its energy, in contradistinction to normal waves.http://www.cheniere.org/books/excalibur/part4.htm


Quoting non-material structure:
Energy is information: E=I. Energy (travels), does what it is informed to do, then travels back to it`s source, as per instruction.

Apply:
Such a wave precisely retraces the path of the ordinary wave that stimulated it to be formed. So it possesses an "invisible wire" through space, back to the original position of whatever emitted its stimulus wave.

Further, the time-reversed wave continually converges upon its invisible "back- tracking" path. It does not diverge and spread its energy, in contradistinction to normal waves.

To:
Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.

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Is that why you construe the universe as "holographic", Junglelord?

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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:47 pm

Divinity/Femto wrote:
Why would an electric universe change anything?

Short answer: It wouldn't.
Long answer:
To say that the Universe is electric is a gross over-simplification. Electricity is merely one aspect of the Universe, an important one perhaps but nevertheless only an aspect.

Through out the recorded and mythical history of humanity, the certainty that all will end one day is the fundamental control/restriction applied to every facet of humanity's development: "The Big Bang; everything destroyed at end of cycle and you will meet your maker. The breath of Brahma, out then in. Black holes will destroy all galaxies".

The first part of this statement (up to the colon) makes no sense to me. How or where is this 'fundamental control/restriction applied to every facet of humanity's development'? The second part of the statement is incorrect with regard to Brahma. Brahma does indeed breath out then in but then Brahman breathes out again and in again and so on. There is no end. The electrical nature of the Universe has no bearing on whether it is eternal or not. The statement also assumes that a) time exists outside of human perception and b) that humans consist only of a material body and can therefore 'die'. I would suggest that there is only the eternal now and that we are in fact immortal. The statement also assumes that we and the Universe are two separate things, i.e. that the Universe is something we live in. I would here suggest that we and the Universe are in fact one and the same thing.

Once the concept of "end" is embedded there will always be an "authority" to tell you how to discipline yourself to prepare for this event. 'Eternal' is reserved for the "creator", separate from the universe, hence the creator fixes its terms. There is always someone with access, of course, to the "creator" separate from all else. They will tell you/demand how you act.

The first sentence is correct as far as it goes in that there are always 'experts' but someone telling you what to do and you doing what you are told are two different things. The decision to do what you are told is entirely ones own (yes, even under duress). The second sentence is totally incorrect in that firstly the 'creator' is not separate from the Universe - The All is in all and all is in The All and all that. The third sentence is incorrect in that each individual human has equal access to the The All because The All is in all (of us). The final sentence is a repeat of the first in blaming someone else for ones own failings.

The electric universe gives eternal to all. The universe and everything in it.

This part makes no sense whatsoever. Why does the fact that the Universe is electric 'give eternal to us all'?

An electric universe provides the reasons/knowledge for all of our past and present beliefs. It shows us how and why we think/believe what we do. It answers the question,"why religion?". Why we are compelled to live in a certain way and not in a manner of common sense?

I would ak 'how so' to each sentence in this paragraph.

The electric universe gives meaning to all phenomena to- date assigned to either religious rapture "miracles" or psychic effects (E.S.P.). It shows us that we and the universe are constructed to interract in a manner that makes all these abilities normal.

For the first sentence I would again ask 'how so'? As to the the second sentence I would say that we were ever constructed to interact with the Universe, whether these 'abilities' are considered normal is due to human convention not the Universe, electric or otherwise.

The electric universe changes everything forever.

The Universe is forever changing, full stop.

How we apply those changes over the coming years is the challenge for us all. Getting there.
One thing, for sure, cycles are gone. Eternal has always been here, now it can be seen/felt/lived in 3D. Faith-based whatever is always in the hands of the teller. Why would anything be hidden? Has humanity not lived enough to deserve the telling?
It has, and the universe is here to tell it.

Why are cycles gone? Indeed 'eternal has always been here' that is the nature of eternity. The Universe has always been here to tell it - “When the ears of the student are ready to hear, then cometh the lips to fill them with Wisdom.”–The Kybalion or perhaps “We never learn anything we didn’t already know.” - Aristotle
Friend Femto appears to have found religion. Perhaps he could become an authority and tell us how to discipline ourselves to prepare for the event.
And we are off-topic.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:00 pm

In the Krita (Satya or Golden) age, Dharma is four-footed and entire, and so is Truth; nor does any gain accrue to men by unrighteousness. In the other three ages, by reason of unjust gains (agama), Dharma is deprived successively of one foot, and through the prevalence of theft, falsehood, and fraud, the merit gained by men is diminished by one fourth in each. Men are free from disease, accomplish all their aims, and live four hundred years in the Krita age, but in the Treta and each of the succeeding ages, their life is lessened by one-quarter.” – Laws of Manu


Divinity said:

The electric universe gives eternal to all.


Yes, I agree with that, too. It’s taken me a long time to understand; but I think it is true. It’s the only thing that makes sense in the long run.

The ancients were being truthful; there really was a Golden Age; but it required a rejuvenated earth first in order to accommodate a “rejuvenated humanity”. There would have to be an earth that would allow all life to benefit from the effects of “universal magnetism” and the “five electricities.”

What follows below was presented previously in this thread.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=374&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p4277

Walter Cruttenden, in his book “Lost Star of Myth and Time” (pages 71-75), discusses the ideas presented by Sri Yukteswar in “Holy Science.”

The ancient Hindu sages tell us that each of the four Ages of Yugas has a correspondence to one of the four powers of “Maya”, a Sanskrit word meaning “the darkness of Illusion that hides from man his Divine nature.” These powers, from the grossest to the most subtle are listed as 1) atomic form; 2) space; 3) time and 4) vibration. Each ascending Age brings to mankind an opportunity to control and understand one of these universal powers. In declining ages, he gradually loses this knowledge and control.


Atomic form:

In the Iron Age man thinks of himself primarily as a material being.


Space:

In the Bronze Age, man understands that all matter is an expression of energy, vibratory force, and electrical attributes. We understand the “five electricities” and we know that “Space” itself no longer separates object from object.


Time & Vibration

The Silver Age is the “mental age.” People realize that they are composed mostly of ideas. We understand the “attributes” of universal magnetism, the source of the positive, negative, and neutralizing electricities, and the two poles of creative attraction and repulsion


Humans as gods

During the Golden Age people know that they are spiritual beings composed of ideas and energy in a physical body. People have complete mastery over time and space and understand the source of universal magnetism which is the very structure and “texture” of the physical universe. They grasp the mystery of vibration, known as Aum in Eastern religion. There is no need of outward images, rites and rituals to help people maintain their link to Divinity.


During the Golden Age humans would use their minds to alter matter. They would have no need to use the labor intensive technologies that we see today.

Physically they would be very different from us. Probably we would define them as giants. They would inherit electromagnetic receptors on various body parts. Such receptors do not exist today with few exceptions. Presently we see such EM “vestiges” with dowsers, for instance, who have more EM receptors in the soles of their feet than do "normal" people.

Humans would have fully developed “psychic” powers. They would communicate telepathically with each other and with animals. Gravity would be much less than what it is today so people would be able to levitate as well.

They really would have very extended life spans; they would not suffer from disease and aging as we know it; they would fall asleep and "die." There are even some Vedic sources that say people could become immortal if they willed it.

http://www.baharna.com/karma/yuga.htm

This first age is 1,728,000 human years. It is also known as the Golden Age or age of Truth. The qualities of this age are: virtue reigns supreme; human stature is 21 cubits; lifespan is a lakh of years, and death occurs only when willed.


Could these ancients have been the “giants” or the Annukai mentioned in the Bible? In other words, they were never “aliens” as we would describe them; but human survivors from the Golden Age who tried to pass on their knowledge to a “fallen” humankind after “the Flood.”

According to the great French alchemist Fulcanelli, “Living a contemplative existence, in harmony with a fertile, rejuvenated earth; our blessed ancestors were unacquainted with desire, pain or suffering.”

There is a profound simplicity to life, with none of the friction caused by the duality and strife of the lower ages. Walter Cruttenden - "Lost Star in Myth and Time" - Pg 75
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:09 pm

Quoting Femto, Divinity says:

Through out the recorded and mythical history of humanity, the certainty that all will end one day is the fundamental control/restriction applied to every facet of humanity's development.


True. It is the fundamental control applied.

But what if “life” only appears to “end” in this world but recommences in another world or dimension? Or what if "change" happens on many different levels. At one level people appear to "die", but at another level, they are "born anew"?

If matter is energy and energy is matter, then energy/matter is neither created nor destroyed but just transformed (transmuted).

Once the concept of "end" is embedded there will always be an "authority" to tell you how to discipline yourself to prepare for this event.


Yes, there will always be the “elites” who strive to orchestrate “reality” to increase their power and control.

'Eternal' is reserved for the "creator", separate from the universe hence the creator fixes its terms.


The elites create organized religion to control the masses while they pursue the esoteric sciences in secret.

An electric universe provides the reasons/knowledge for all of our past and present beliefs.


Yes, we have yet to learn just how much this is true.

The electric universe gives meaning to all phenomena to- date assigned to either religious rapture "miracles" or psychic effects (E.S.P.).


Yes, we are “psychic” beings. Governments and their intelligence agencies would not have spent their time and money investigating PSI phenomena if such powers did not exist.

The electric universe gives humanity the ability to support and sustain itself via resources that are free to be used without any effect on environments.


If we understand “universal magnetism” and the five electricities, then we will know how to “manipulate ZPE (the aether).

The electric universe opens the door to our oneness with everything.


As above, so below.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:28 pm

So what do you suppose is meant by "universal magnetism"?

Universal Magnetism and Aether Theory
http://www.geocities.com/rlok69/index.html

In cautiously describing the atomic magnetic field as a micro-atomic directed material flux-flow structure, stimulated by the arrangement and alignment of fundamental magnetic particles, the AD 2000 Æther theory presents an integrated series of arguments and explanations giving scientific description a mechanism capable of elucidating Nature's Universe. In describing the Æther through interconnected interactive magnetic fields, the Æther theory explains more clearly, the means by which atoms and molecules exchange energy, using primitive communications, as magnetic response reactions invoke changes in alignment, coupling, and structure, producing force-forms, and restoration effects including vibration, resonance, and motion, all of which affect other matter.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Divinity » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:34 pm

Divinity/Femto wrote:
Why would an electric universe change anything?


Grey Cloud wrote:
>>Short answer: It wouldn't.
Long answer: To say that the Universe is electric is a gross over-simplification. Electricity is merely one aspect of the Universe, an important one perhaps but nevertheless only an aspect.>>


It's an over-simplification because, for this purpose, the term "Electric Universe" is altogether simpler to discuss than the "Eternal Active Living Intelligent Electrical-Plasmatic Symbiotic Complex Unified Field" we call our Universe.

It's not really about electricity at the philosophical level. It's the fact that when this breaks into public mainstream media as a 'known reality', people will have no choice but to realise we DO live in a unified/connected environment, which is alive and teeming with intelligent life, that the plasma itself is capable of pervading and penetrating everything, that it creates and supports all life, that the reason we can achieve telepathy is because electricity permits travel and knowledge to be transmitted instantly, and that all is one and connected and dependent upon each other. There is no hierarchy in the Universe; all starts from the same place and all interracts with each other harmoniously, something humans will eventually need to learn once they understand where they are.

Please bear in mind the two main options open to humans formerly - that the Universe was a dead, mechanical, clockwork place, or that it was a place where the Man in the Sky dwelled who dished out hell, damnation or miracles as the whim took Him. All other gods/deities we have established had their roots in the plasmatic cataclysm following the Golden Age. Now, can you imagine what this knowledge is going to do to all religions?


Femto wrote:
>>Throughout the recorded and mythical history of humanity, the certainty that all will end one day is the fundamental control/restriction applied to every facet of humanity's development: "The Big Bang; everything destroyed at end of cycle and you will meet your maker. The breath of Brahma, out then in. Black holes will destroy all galaxies".


Grey Cloud wrote:
The first part of this statement (up to the colon) makes no sense to me. How or where is this 'fundamental control/restriction applied to every facet of humanity's development'? The second part of the statement is incorrect with regard to Brahma. Brahma does indeed breath out then in but then Brahman breathes out again and in again and so on. There is no end. The electrical nature of the Universe has no bearing on whether it is eternal or not. The statement also assumes that a) time exists outside of human perception and b) that humans consist only of a material body and can therefore 'die'. I would suggest that there is only the eternal now and that we are in fact immortal. The statement also assumes that we and the Universe are two separate things, i.e. that the Universe is something we live in. I would here suggest that we and the Universe are in fact one and the same thing.


Where is it stated in any human field or structure that we humans are eternal or 'spiritual' beings having a human experience? The electrical nature of the universe has no bearing as you see it because you have not felt what it is like to merge with the electrical field itself (although you may know that it is mechanically possible as your human brain is designed to interract at superluminal speeds and your 'etheric' body is designed to merge with its Source energy at any time it desires).

We are one and the same thing except we are also individual. Aether surrounds the human body, as it does every other natural thing in the Universe. Collectively, we are One but we do have a separate experience. The point made about Brahma was that of the suggestion of cycles of 'end' and cycles of 'beginning' which is a misnomer in an infinite universe for an infinite being. As soon as we venture into 'the end', it becomes part of our human psyche that cycles are natural, when they aren't. Humans live and tolerate cycles because they have been taught them. Evolution is spiral, is it not? Ever-expansive, ever-growing, ever-creating, like the Universe. As for time, I have no proof that all is now. I should imagine wherever we place our consciousness is whatever time we experience but referring to Lizzie's recent post, perhaps that happens when we return to what we truly are (aka as we were in the Golden Age)



Femto wrote:
Once the concept of "end" is embedded there will always be an "authority" to tell you how to discipline yourself to prepare for this event. 'Eternal' is reserved for the "creator", separate from the universe, hence the creator fixes its terms. There is always someone with access, of course, to the "creator" separate from all else. They will tell you/demand how you act.


Grey Cloud wrote:The first sentence is correct as far as it goes in that there are always 'experts' but someone telling you what to do and you doing what you are told are two different things. The decision to do what you are told is entirely ones own (yes, even under duress). The second sentence is totally incorrect in that firstly the 'creator' is not separate from the Universe - The All is in all and all is in The All and all that. The third sentence is incorrect in that each individual human has equal access to the The All because The All is in all (of us). The final sentence is a repeat of the first in blaming someone else for ones own failings.



The second sentence is agreeing with you. It's referring to the 'authority' which tells us the creator is separate. The third sentence relates to people who are either following a belief system through fear, tradition or laziness. I'm sure you will agree that applies to many of the 7 billion.



Femto wrote:
An electric universe provides the reasons/knowledge for all of our past and present beliefs. It shows us how and why we think/believe what we do. It answers the question,"why religion?". Why we are compelled to live in a certain way and not in a manner of common sense?


Grey Cloud wrote
I would ask 'how so' to each sentence in this paragraph.


I refer you to Mr. Talbott's Myths and Legends section.

What Femto is referring to is that early belief systems still run very deep within the human psyche. The EU/APM is fundamentally common-sensical, consistent and elegant. It leaves no room for the paranormal or superstition. Once people understand the physics and the nature of plasma and what it can do, we will have left the Dark Ages for ever.



Femto wrote:
The electric universe gives meaning to all phenomena to-date assigned to either religious rapture "miracles" or psychic effects (E.S.P.). It shows us that we and the universe are constructed to interract in a manner that makes all these abilities normal.


Grey Cloud wrote:
For the first sentence I would again ask 'how so'? As to the the second sentence I would say that we were ever constructed to interact with the Universe, whether these 'abilities' are considered normal is due to human convention not the Universe, electric or otherwise.



Because of the nature of plasma. There is talk now that almost all paranormal experience/sightings could be plasma in all its many forms, from ET sightings to ghosts, spirits, crop circle makers, etc. Plasma is 99.9% of the Universe and yet, people still believe it's simply the fourth state of matter. Can you imagine what will happen when people realise what rock art was really about? Just a small example of what I mean.



Femto wrote:
How we apply those changes over the coming years is the challenge for us all. Getting there.
One thing, for sure, cycles are gone. Eternal has always been here, now it can be seen/felt/lived in 3D. Faith-based whatever is always in the hands of the teller. Why would anything be hidden? Has humanity not lived enough to deserve the telling?


Grey Cloud wrote:
It has, and the universe is here to tell it.
Why are cycles gone? Indeed 'eternal has always been here' that is the nature of eternity. The Universe has always been here to tell it - “When the ears of the student are ready to hear, then cometh the lips to fill them with Wisdom.”–The Kybalion or perhaps “We never learn anything we didn’t already know.” - Aristotle
Friend Femto appears to have found religion. Perhaps he could become an authority and tell us how to discipline ourselves to prepare for the event.
And we are off-topic.


Cycles are gone because people will realise they are infinite, eternal and spirt (plasma); that they are no different to the nature of 'God' Itself. Cycles of reincarnation (and other beliefs) will become unnecessary. Humans go round and round in circles until they decide to wake up and move onward and upward. We are birthing a new consciousness and the EU theory is enabling that to happen because it makes sense out of reality, which the Newtonian Universe did not. We inherently know what is true, at the very core of us but the layers and layers of programming over the years has sent mankind wayward in so many areas.

What this means is that after we die, we attain spiritual freedom - it will not be necessary to continue on with endless cycles of incarnations under false belief systems, there will be no need for guru's, mediums or ghosthunters. We may even be able to attain galactic citizenship as we develop from a Type I Civilisation to a Type III (Dr. Mikao Kaku). The Universe becomes our oyster once humans have awakened to their true nature (not dissimilar to Lizzie's description above). Of course 'eternal' has always been here but it's been a long time since mankind remembered it.

As for Aristotle, if that were true, why have we devolved spiritually and not evolved? (Could Aristotle think like Junglelord?) I believe the information (energy) emanating from the prime Source is now of such splendid quality that we will start to realise and learn and create completely anew. As soon as we realise we are co-creators with the One (i.e. Everything Else), we flourish. But we must learn that we suffer when we attempt to create outside of the Laws of Nature.

My friend Femto is a natural. He understands the mechanics and philosophy of the Universe because he was born that way. He has not found religion and it's insulting to suggest it.

I shall leave it up to the Mods to say whether or not this is off-topic. I think it's the most important topic of all....human growth, evolution and development coupled with our relationship with God as It really is, not as it was formerly believed to be.


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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:36 pm

Wow! What a post!

Divinity said:

The term "Electric Universe" is altogether simpler to discuss than the "Eternal Active Living Intelligent Electrical-Plasmatic Symbiotic Complex Unified Field" we call our Universe.


EALIEPSCUF = the Universe

I'm not one for acronyms, but I can live with that one!

It's the fact that when this breaks into public mainstream media as a 'known reality', people will have no choice but to realise we DO live in a unified/connected environment.


Oh, I can’t wait!! :D

There is no hierarchy in the Universe; all starts from the same place and all interacts with each other harmoniously.


Yes! No more elitism; all creatures are welcome to partake equally in the bounties offered by the Universe.

… something humans will eventually need to learn once they understand where they are.


I want to believe that the vast majority of people are well intentioned; I hope they come to realize how the current “control system” seeks to enslave them by encouraging them to continue to believe in the myth of their own "inequality" or "lack of entitlement."

Now, can you imagine what this knowledge is going to do to all religions?


I won't shed any tears for the world's religions! 8-)

Where is it stated in any human field or structure that we humans are eternal or 'spiritual' beings having a human experience?


But that’s the “secret” that has been closely guarded by all the occult sciences and mystery religions – the “cosmic fire” that exists within each human -- the Kundalini, if you wish.

The EU/APM is fundamentally common-sensical, consistent and elegant. It leaves no room for the paranormal or superstition. Once people understand the physics and the nature of plasma and what it can do, we will have left the Dark Ages for ever.


That which is Divine should be easily understood by all people.

We are birthing a new consciousness and the EU theory is enabling that to happen because it makes sense out of reality, which the Newtonian Universe did not.


I agree!

Of course 'eternal' has always been here but it's been a long time since mankind remembered it.


I agree!

As soon as we realise we are co-creators with the One (i.e. Everything Else), we flourish. But we must learn that we suffer when we attempt to create outside of the Laws of Nature.


I agree!

I think it's the most important topic of all....human growth, evolution and development coupled with our relationship with God as It really is, not as it was formerly believed to be.


I have agreed with you four times in a row! Therefore, you must be really smart! ;)

We understand that all matter is an expression of energy, vibratory force, and electrical attributes. We grasp the mystery of vibration, known as Aum in Eastern religion.

I think all six billion of us humans should get together and sing into existence a new Earth. Actually all species will be invited to the "sing-in." Dogs would bark; cats would meow; birds would sing, dolphins could emit sonar, etc.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Divinity » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:58 pm

:D
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We understand that all matter is an expression of energy, vibratory force, and electrical attributes. We grasp the mystery of vibration, known as Aum in Eastern religion.

I think all six billion of us humans should get together and sing into existence a new Earth. Actually all species will be invited to the "sing-in." Dogs would bark; cats would meow; birds would sing, dolphins could emit sonar, etc.


Thank you Lizzie! :D I am so delighted to read your responses - we appear to be on the same page with most of our beliefs and the way we perceive life. It's so nice to be able to discuss these issues with like-minds who care. Your expertise of the human mind/culture and former Golden Age is extraordinary, as is your grasp of the physics. I am learning a great deal here at Thunderbolts. I wouldn't call myself smart; it's simply that my desire for humans to progress is huge.

Perhaps we are beginning to merge the left and right brain again. When we use our higher mental abilities, our heart (love) intelligence and connect/share with each other, I'm sure there is no other way to go forward than in unison, in the spirit of a free world for everyone - yes, singing into existence a new Earth! The greatest aspect to this whole EU theory is its core holistic message and that everyone has a part to play in the big picture. :D

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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Divinity » Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:13 pm

Lizzie:
During the Golden Age humans would use their minds to alter matter. They would have no need to use the labor intensive technologies that we see today.

Physically they would be very different from us. Probably we would define them as giants. They would inherit electromagnetic receptors on various body parts. Such receptors do not exist today with few exceptions. Presently we see such EM “vestiges” with dowsers, for instance, who have more EM receptors in the soles of their feet than do "normal" people.

Humans would have fully developed “psychic” powers. They would communicate telepathically with each other and with animals. Gravity would be much less than what it is today so people would be able to levitate as well.

They really would have very extended life spans; they would not suffer from disease and aging as we know it; they would fall asleep and "die." There are even some Vedic sources that say people could become immortal if they willed it.


Very well put and I'm sure, as we are witnessing the change in our environment and that of the solar system as a whole, the new energy/vibration will lend itself to just such a development for us. Your grasp of the Golden Age sounds very accurate to me and I can envisage that our 'lost talents' and hidden abilities will return as the Schumann Resonance and other environmental conditions change.


Lizzie:
The ancient Hindu sages tell us that each of the four Ages of Yugas has a correspondence to one of the four powers of “Maya”, a Sanskrit word meaning “the darkness of Illusion that hides from man his Divine nature.” These powers, from the grossest to the most subtle are listed as 1) atomic form; 2) space; 3) time and 4) vibration. Each ascending Age brings to mankind an opportunity to control and understand one of these universal powers. In declining ages, he gradually loses this knowledge and control.

Atomic form:

In the Iron Age man thinks of himself primarily as a material being.

Space:

In the Bronze Age, man understands that all matter is an expression of energy, vibratory force, and electrical attributes. We understand the “five electricities” and we know that “Space” itself no longer separates object from object.

Time & Vibration

The Silver Age is the “mental age.” People realize that they are composed mostly of ideas. We understand the “attributes” of universal magnetism, the source of the positive, negative, and neutralizing electricities, and the two poles of creative attraction and repulsion


:D Fantastic!


Lizzie:
Could these ancients have been the “giants” or the Annukai mentioned in the Bible? In other words, they were never “aliens” as we would describe them; but human survivors from the Golden Age who tried to pass on their knowledge to a “fallen” humankind after “the Flood.”

According to the great French alchemist Fulcanelli, “Living a contemplative existence, in harmony with a fertile, rejuvenated earth; our blessed ancestors were unacquainted with desire, pain or suffering.”


When I first learned this, I wasn't surprised because I'm sure that inherent in our long-standing genetic memory, most of us have recall to a cataclysm but also a Golden Age where we DO remember peace, harmony and no suffering. I did a little digging about Oannes, the Annunaki and other Sumerian myths, legends and gods, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that an advanced race helped us to develop husbandry and agriculture, the arts and other cultural subjects (possibly even language?).

Thank you for a very enlightening post. :D

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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:54 pm

Divinity said:

Your expertise of the human mind/culture and former Golden Age is extraordinary.


Perhaps it's because more than any other myth, I wanted that one to be true.

I think I was 12 years old when I first read about The Golden Age. I thought it was the most wonderful myth of all. I never would have imagined in my entire life that it could have been a reality.

. . . as is your grasp of the physics


I studied biology and geology; I never took a physics course in my life. There are so many good resources at the EU; I felt I was able to grasp the fundamentals in an intuitive manner. I wish I did understand the physics of it all. I think that would make it even more awesome.

It's simply that my desire for humans to progress is huge.


Yes, I understand. I keep waiting for "the shoe to drop" ... that supposed "critical point" that will tip the scale so we can all move forward as one.

I'm sure there is no other way to go forward than in unison, in the spirit of a free world for everyone


Yes, I'm sure that's the way it must be!

I wasn't surprised because I'm sure that inherent in our long-standing genetic memory, most of us have recall to a cataclysm but also a Golden Age where we DO remember peace, harmony and no suffering.


Yes. Why would we have invented myths about a Golden Age or a Great Flood unless they had occurred in our distant past. In other words, how could we understand darkness unless we had seen the light.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that an advanced race helped us to develop husbandry and agriculture, the arts and other cultural subjects (possibly even language?)


Yes, there are so many different cultural traditions that mention such "advanced beings." Many of our myths claim that the "gods abandoned them. These human survivors of the Golden Age would have died off as the earth devolved to a "denser state."
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:18 pm

"The Four Mayas" by Laurie Pratt
http://cycle-of-time.net/four_mayas.htm

In Kali Yuga, the knowledge and power of man is confined to the world of gross matter (Bhu Loka, first sphere,) and his state or natural caste is Sudra, a menial or dependent of Nature.

In Dwapara Yuga, man gains a comprehension of the electrical attributes, the finer forces and more subtle matters of creation. He now understands that all matter, atomic form, is nothing but expressions of energy, vibratory force, electrical attributes.

Man is given the power to annihilate the Avidya, the Illusion of Space, the second limitation of Maya. His mind is centered on the problems of the second sphere of creation (Bhuba Loka) which, by the absence of gross matter and the presence only of Nature's finer electrical matters or energies, is called Shunya, the Vacuum Ordinary.

In Treta Yuga, man extends his knowledge and power over the attributes of universal magnetism, the source of the positive, negative, and neutralizing electricities, and the two poles of creative attraction and repulsion. He succeeds in piercing the third veil of Maya, the Illusion of Time, which is Change.

The third sphere of Nature (Siva or Swa Loka), Universal Magnetism is characterized by the absence of all matter, whether gross or fine, and is called Maha Shunya, the Great Vacuum.

In this state, man's intelligence is sufficiently purified to grasp the principles of Chittwa, universal Heart Atom, magnetic third portion of Creations and throne of Purush, Spirit, the Creator.

Chittwa, the throne, has seven attributes—five kinds of electricities, the five Root-Causes of creation, and two magnetic poles, one of attraction and one of repulsion. These seven attributes appear to the spiritual sight as of seven different colors, as in a rainbow.

In Satya Yuga, man comprehends the source of universal magnetism with its principle of duality, or polarity, and his intelligence reaches out to grasp the mystery of Vibration, Aum, the creative power that sustains the universe.

If this fourth and last sheath of Maya is thus removed, in the Golden Age, from the eyes of the perfected man, he passes on to the fifth sphere. In this state, freed from the four Illusions, he is called Brahman, knower of the Creator, Brahma, the spiritual light and only Real Substance of the universe.

When man, in Satya Yuga, reaches the fourth, intermediate sphere of Maha Loka, the Door, and overcomes the fourth and last power of Maya, he leaves behind him the illusory world of reflected light, and is baptized directly in the true spiritual light, becoming a son of God.

Similarly, the man who has attained freedom, the Jivan Mukta Sannyasi, conqueror of the four Illusions of Maya, is in the Satya Yuga of his own individual cycle, though he may be living in the Kali, Dwapara, or Treta Yuga of the world, and by contrast, appears to be a World Savior by his luminous example. Thus, Jesus, who became a Christ, lived in the Kali Yuga of a world-cycle, but had transcended the fourth sphere, Maha Loka, corresponding to Satya Yuga, and had entered the fifth sphere, Jana Loka, that of the Sons of God.
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