Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

What is a human being? What is life? Can science give us reliable answers to such questions? The electricity of life. The meaning of human consciousness. Are we alone? Are the traditional contests between science and religion still relevant? Does the word "spirit" still hold meaning today?

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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:30 am

Maybe the ancients were right after all. Cosmic rays acting in conjunction with the sun do affect us in ways we have yet to realize.

http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/keys/betelgeuse.html

Betelgeuse is a first generation star, and actually gave birth to some, not all, of the stars in the Orion Spur in which we reside. Like some immense cosmic mother, its enormous magnetic field most likely envelops all life forms within the Orion Spur.

He taught that humanity and the entire solar system are influenced by conditioning "rays" that come from the stars, and that the Big Dipper registers paramount effect on all forms of life here on Earth. He also mentioned the "potent forces" reaching us from the star Betelgeuse.

The Big Dipper, he further explained, is in fact the head center of a stupendous being whose subtle or etheric body is composed of seven solar systems, each acting as an energy center. Sirius makes up the third eye to this great being, the Pleiades its throat center and the Sun is connected to its heart center. This incredibly vast being is the prototype for the human form, in keeping with the ancient truism "As above, so below." Our human bodies are tiny miniature models of this great being (GOD) in whom we live. What the soul is to the human, Betelgeuse is to this solar entity.


Our Galactic Neighbours
http://www.theenergyworks.co.nz/galactic2.html

What is Universal Magnetism?

Magnetic Current By Edward Leedskalnin
http://www.labyrinthina.com/ed.htm

Before my research work I knew nothing about electricity. The only thing I knew was that nobody knows what electricity is.

I believe that if some enterprising man would analyze the magnet metal which comes straight from the earth he would find that the metal is not built up by protons and electrons, but by north and south pole individual magnets.

Matter: Every form of existence, whether it be rock, tree or animal, has a beginning and an end, but the three things that all matter is constructed from has no beginning and no end. They are the North and South poles individual magnets, and the neutral particles of matter. These three different things are the construction blocks of everything.

We have North and South pole magnets, positive and negative electricity, protons, and electrons, positrons and mesons and alpha, beta and gamma rays. Now why such a confusion? Does nature really need so many things in the perpetual transformation of things on building up the matter and again taking it into parts? I think all that nature needs is three things, the North and South pole magnets and the neutral particles. Each kind of those three things can act differently with different speed and different combinations, and so they can accomplish different results. I believe the prospective physicists first should learn what magnets and electricity are then they will have a sound base for their experiments and their calculations.

COSMIC FORCE: The North and South pole individual magnets are the cosmic force. They are the building blocks of nature's perpetual transformation of matter, and they are so small that they can pass through everything. They pass through the earth from pole to pole, and around the earth.

Gravitation must be caused by the matter in the middle of the earth, and more concentrated than Uranium.


The ancients used the liquid crystal cells in their own bodies to levitate objects by “singing”?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=374&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=60#p7322

Better Medicine
http://www.kent.edu/Magazine/Winter2007 ... dicine.cfm

Called lyotropic liquid crystals, some examples include DNA, proteins and cholesterol. LCPs are a unique class of lyotropic liquid crystals that represent novel drug candidates for the treatment of a wide range of diseases.


LCD
http://www.geocities.com/Omegaman_UK/lcd.html

Scientists think that liquid crystals may hold the key to certain medical disorders - including cancer. And most recently liquid crystals have turned up in a still more unlikely area: cosmology - the study of the origin and nature of the universe.

Myelin: the liquid crystal that guards your nerves

Then another curiosity emerged: these liquids seemed to have two different melting points.
Without their liquid crystal structures, living cells couldn't exist
Scientists now know the walls of living cells consist of liquid crystal materials called phospholipids.

A failure of the liquid crystal structure of the myelin causes an insulation failure, which devastates the transmission of nerve impulses.

Recently scientists have come up with perhaps the most surprising role yet for liquid crystals: as models for events that took place at the beginning of the universe.


Biomagnetism and Bio-Electromagnetism: The Foundation of Life
http://www.affs.org/html/biomagnetism.html

Liquid Crystals
http://www.merck.de/servlet/PB/show/113 ... x_engl.pdf
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:01 pm

It appears that the ancients believed that vibratory frequencies were in inherent in all energy/matter. Through the use of these frequencies, energy/matter communicates with each other.

In his book "The Essence of the Bhagavad Gita" Yogananda wrote of "vach", the mystical secret source of sound: “Through vibratory sound, all nature communes in its highest expression; "vach" is the repository of all knowledge, that vibratory intelligence through which the Vedas were divinely revealed to the rishis.”

http://www.essenceofthegita.com/

The History, Development, and Character of Sanskrit
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/ctg/sanskrit.htm

Sanskrit Sounds
http://www.sanskritsounds.com/

Sanskrit and Artificial Intelligence
http://www.gosai.com/science/sanskrit-nasa.html

Mantras
http://www.sanskritmantra.com/what.htm

The Rebirth of Hindu Music - Dane Rudhyar
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/rhm/

http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/rhm/rhm_c3.shtml

Akasha has been called the "Great Waters of Space," and it is said also that the one essential property of akasha is sound.


SPEECH--THE LOGOS OF THOUGHT
http://www.blavatsky.net/magazine/theos ... ought.html

The ancients associated sound or Speech with the Ether of Space, of which Sound is the characteristic. The real Æther of Space has seven principles, as all the rest of nature has, and where there was no Ether there would be no sound, as it is the vibrating sound-board in nature in all of its seven differentiations.


Forgotten In Time: The Ancient Solfeggio Frequencies
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialr ... eggio.html
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Divinity » Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:07 pm

Thank you Lizzie for some great links. I, too, am interested in how life must have been in the Golden Age particularly as it intuitively feels as if that was how life should be; it certainly feels more natural than the way of life now in most cultures/countries. Again, referring to 'cycles', if the environment were temperate all year round and there was no definite night or day and/or seasons, it stands to reason that 'cycles' wouldn't be of major importance to those people.
There is no doubt in my mind that husbandry and agriculture, literature, the arts, culture and even language did not naturally 'evolve' but that we had some advanced help from another Race after the cataclysm.

On another subject, Theosophy, here is something I posted on another forum which signifies just how close they got to understanding the Electrical nature of the Universe:


Occult science recognises Seven Cosmic Elements -- four entirely physical, and the fifth (Ether) semi-material, as it will become visible in the air towards the end of our Fourth Round, to reign supreme over the others during the whole of the Fifth. The remaining two are as yet absolutely beyond the range of human perception. These latter will, however, appear as presentments during the 6th and 7th Races of this Round, and will become known in the 6th and 7th Rounds respectively. These seven elements with their numberless Sub-Elements (far more numerous than those known to Science) are simply conditional modifications and aspects of the ONE and only Element. This latter is not Ether, not even Âkâsha, but the Source of these.

Quoting: H.P. Blavatsky



Blavatsky et al were SO close to the universal truth. Because electricity was relatively new, she knew God or the 'Ether' was electric or magnetic (fluid) but didn't quite get it right (just as well as her intents weren't entirely pure).

It's fair to say most scientists, inventors, literary and spiritual people were Theosophists during the turn of the Century. Combined, these very powerful people at the top of most Western pyramids created an occult environment which was both informative AND dangerous. They combined ether science beliefs with magik, mysticism and many Eastern philosophies...it was a lethal mix which went on to have DRAMATIC effects on all global societies, and even today, is highly influencial in many fields.


[link to http://www.greylodge.org]

The Theology of Electricity

The Vril Myth Revealed By N. Goodrick-Clarke

With the discovery of magnetism and electricity, a new image appeared beside the symbolism of light from the seventeenth century onwards. Magnetism and electricity emerged as the most tangible manifestation of the hidden presence of divine power in the world and its objects as the concealed power that creates life, movement and warmth; that permeates the whole universe; that causes the attraction of opposite poles; that accumulates violent discharges from time to time and manifests itself in lightning as overpowering, blinding light, as a destructive force in its numinous, irrational form. Electricity and magnetism became a new symbol for God.


In Isis Unveiled she frequently referred to The Unseen Universe (1875) by B. Stewart and P. G. Gait, which developed the idea of the universal ether as a parallel, invisible universe of force:

"Now is it not natural to imagine, that a universe of this nature...connected by bonds of energy with the visible universe, is also capable of receiving energy from it? May we not regard the Ether, or the medium, as not merely a bridge between one order of things and another, forming as it were a species of cement, in virtue of which the various orders of the universe are welded together and made into one? In fine, what we generally called Ether, may be not a mere medium, but a medium plus the invisible order of things, so that when the motions of the visible universe are transferred into Ether, part of them are conveyed as by a bridge into the invisible universe...when energy is carried from matter into Ether, it is carried from the visible into the invisible... when it is carried from Ether to matter it is carried from the invisible to the visible".


..and in another flash of brilliance, she discovered:

... the excerpts from The Secret Doctrine identify Fohat with electricity as a universal, dualistic (positive-negative) force of nature. In its turn, electricity is a powerful contemporary metaphor for Fohat's energy and function of impressing the ideas of the Universal Mind upon matter. Blavatsky thinks that the notion of "Cosmic Electricity" does not adequately convey its property of intelli-gence. Then, with a quick reference to modern science, she recalls that all cerebration and brain-activity are accompanied by electrical phenomena, thus suggesting that human intelligence correlates to electricity ... ------------------

So, what did Mme. Blavatsky miss?

She had the ingredients right: the electricity, the etheric connection of All, the intelligent Godmind, that thoughts impressed upon reality, so what did she miss? Perhaps that the Language of the Universe is FEELING and its purpose is "Love in Action"?

Liken that kind of philosophy to those extolled in ALL Secret Societies: members become 'keepers of the secrets', they're elitist, they hold the lost, hidden keys to universal truths, they hold science in high esteem, they practice esotericism, occultism, luciferianism, satanism, paganism and even Catholocism (!), but there WAS AND IS STILL an ingredient missing!

And that ingredient was: Love for the Universe and love for each other.

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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:30 pm

Divinity said:

Occult science recognises Seven Cosmic Elements -- four entirely physical, and the fifth (Ether) semi-material, as it will become visible in the air towards the end of our Fourth Round, to reign supreme over the others during the whole of the Fifth.


The Seven Cosmic Streams
http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/higherpaths/hp.html

I think it is explained more clearly here:

The Four Yugas
http://cycle-of-time.net/four_mayas.htm

Each Yuga brings to mankind in general an opportunity to control and understand one of these universal powers. The four Illusions, Avidyas, of Maya, counting from the grossest to the most subtle, are:

(1) Atomic form, Patra or Anu, the world of gross material manifestation, wherein the One Substance appears as innumerable objects;

(2) Space, Desh, whereby the idea of division is produced in the Ever-Indivisible;

(3) Time, Kal, whereby the mind conceives of change in the Ever-Unchangeable, and

(4) Vibration, Aum, the universal creative force which obscures our realization of the Ever-Uncreated.

The universe, from the Eternal Substance God down to the gross material creation, is divided by the ancient Hindu rishis into seven different spheres, Swargas or Lokas, of which the first four, the kingdom of Maya, have been described above. The remaining three, not being subject to the illusory limitations of vibrations, time, space, or atomic form, are of course unconnected with the time-cycles of the different Yugas, and it will therefore be sufficient here merely to mention them briefly.

The fifth sphere is Jana Loka, the abode of the Sons of God, wherein the idea of the separate existence of the Higher Self originates. As it is above the comprehension of man while under the Illusions of Maya, this sphere is called Alakhsa, the Incomprehensible.

The sixth sphere is Tapa Loka, that of the Holy Spirit or Eternal Patience, as it remains forever undisturbed by any limited idea. Because it is not approachable even by the Sons of God, as such, it is called Agam, the Inaccessible.

The seventh and highest sphere is Satya Loka, abode of God, the only Real Substance, Sat, in the universe. No name can describe it; hence this sphere is called Anam, the Nameless.

When man, in Satya Yuga, reaches the fourth, intermediate sphere of Maha Loka, the Door, and overcomes the fourth and last power of Maya, he leaves behind him the illusory world of reflected light, and is baptized directly in the true spiritual light, becoming a son of God. Thus, having been immersed in the sacred stream of Aum (symbolized by water) and illuminated by the direct light of Spirit, he enters into Jana Loka, the Kingdom of God, wherein his own Sonship is made manifest.

Twenty-four Elders

The powers of Maya have been divided into twenty-four principles, Tattwa, by the ancient sages, namely,

(1) Ahamkar, Ego;
(2) Chittwa, Heart Center, universal magnetism;
(3) Buddhi, Intelligence;
(4) Manas, Mind,
(5-19) five kinds of electricities, Pancha-Tattwa, each with three manifestations, and
(20-24) Bhoota, five matters of the gross physical world. These twenty-four divisions
are mentioned in the Bible as the twenty-four Elders, or primeval principles.

The Gunas

The five kinds of electricities [Pancha-Tattwa, the five Root-Causes or the causal body of Purusha, the Son of God] manifest in three ways through the three Gunas—

Sattwa, the positive,
Tama, the negative, and
Raja, the neutralizing.

The Gunas are the three causative, guiding qualities inherent in and operative upon all Tatwa. The word Guna comes from the roots gu, to work imperceptibly, and nee, to guide.

The five positive Sattwa attributes of the electricities are the abstract knowing senses, Jnana-Indriya, through which man realizes his five senses of sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch. Manas, the Mind, guides these Jnana-Indriya through its sense-consciousness.

The five neutralizing Raja attributes of the electricities are the abstract working senses, Karma-Indriya, through which man realizes his five abilities of articulation, motion, generation, absorption, and excretion. The Karma-Indriya are guided by Pran, the Life-Energy.

The five negative Tama attributes of the electricities, by their resisting force, produce the five Tanmatra, the objects of the abstract senses. Tanmatra comes from the root, Tat, that, and matra, merely. Tanmatra, then, are Only That or Merely That, the most subtle and most imperceptible form of matter, the vibratory structure of material substance. They are classified as Roop, form and color; Shabda, sound; Gandha, odor; Ras, taste and fluidity; and Sparsha, touch.

These fifteen electrical manifestations, together with the two magnetic poles, Intelligence and Mind, make up the [seventeen "fine limbs" of the subtle or astral body] Linga-Sharir or Sukshma-Sharir, the fine material body of Purush, Spirit.

The Physical Universe

A further increase of the negative Tama Guna, and a combination and mixture of the five Tanmatra, produce the five material substances, or Bhoota, of our physical universe. Bhoota has a root-meaning of "to have been." Hence, Bhoota means past. The real nature of the five Bhoota is left behind in time, in their causative Tanmatra, and all the preceding Tatwa. By tracing the etymology of these terms, we realize the great scientific advancement, far out-stripping that of the scientists of our present era, of the sages who thus classified the orderly processes of creation.

The first Bhoota is Byoma or Akash, subtle and ethereal fluid that pervades the universe, the peculiar vehicle of light and sound. Its vibration is geometrically represented by a circle enclosing many dots, signifying the atomic movement within limitless space. Akash is subtly connected with the Tanmatra of sound. It is derived from the roots ang, to pervade, and kash, to shine.

The second Bhoota is Wayu. It means "That which flows," from the roots wa, to pervade, and yuk, to augment. It is Wayu that makes air and all gaseous substances able to manifest. In a subtle sense, it means touch. Its work is expansion, contraction, and pressure. The circular vibration belongs to Wayu. Its form may be seen when a whirlwind causes dust to gyrate in a circular course.

The third Bhoota is Tej, or energy. It comes form the root jejus, light. It causes magnetism, heat, and light. Its work is to expand., In a subtle sense, it is color and form. It causes fire to burn. The triangular rhythm is representative of Tej. and may be observed in the flame of fire, which darts upward in a conical form.

The fourth Bhoota is Apa, or fluidity. It comes from the roots ap, to nourish, and a, partial. Its work is to contract. In a subtle sense, it is taste. It is responsible for all liquids, such as water. Its vibration is semi-circular. The undulating flow of the ocean waves illustrates this rhythm.

The fifth Bhoota is Kshiti or Prithiwi, which gives solidarity. Prithiwi comes from the roots pri, to nourish, th, to stand fixed, and wi, covering. Its work is to harden and make compact. In a subtle sense, it is odor, and in its grossest form, it is earth. It possesses an angular vibration, which causes the composition of matter to be divided into angular particles.

These five Bhoota together make up the gross material body, Sthul Sharir, of Purush, Spirit.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:24 pm

Divinity said:

Occult science recognises Seven Cosmic Elements -- four entirely physical, and the fifth (Ether) semi-material, as it will become visible in the air towards the end of our Fourth Round, to reign supreme over the others during the whole of the Fifth.


This sounds as if the "fifth element" refers to the ET (plasma) phenomena.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:59 pm

LEVITATION IN THE GREAT PYRAMID?
http://www.gizapyramid.com/articles/levitation.htm

An acoustic levitator includes a pair of opposed sound sources which have interfering sound waves producing acoustic energy wells in which an object may be levitated. The phase of one sound source may be changed relative to the other in order to move the object along an axis between the sound sources.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:16 pm

Terra Preta

The scale and subtlety of the advanced civilizations that once covered the Earth is nowhere more clearly seen than in the anomaly known as Terra Preta. This enigma not only speaks of a profound knowledge of the Earth, it reveals the values cherished by a people who lived in harmony with nature. It is something that our ancestors engineered and left for us – something we have still not been able to replicate with all our technology today.

Scientists today are especially interested in this strange dirt, not just because it is naturally rich in nutrients and perfect for farming, but because it behaves like a living organism. It is self-renewing. Lost Star of Myth and Time -- Walter Cruttenden, pages 224-225


Immediately I thought about how the ancients might have used electricity to create this soil. A google search produced some interesting results.

Terra Preta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta

Terra preta is characterized by the presence of low-temperature charcoal in high concentrations; of high quantities of pottery shards; of organic matter such as plant residues, animal feces, fish and animal bones and other material; and of nutrients such as nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), calcium (Ca), zinc (Zn), manganese (Mn).

Thousands of years after its creation it is reputedly known as self-regenerating at the rate of 1 centimetre per year


Earthmovers of the Amazon
http://deltafarmpress.com/news/051114-terra-preta/

Pay dirt: Start-up draws electricity from the ground
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9809164-7.html

PIEZOELECTRIC CERAMICS
http://www.piezo.com/tech4history.html

ORMUS and Pyramids
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/pyramids.htm

Pyramid Double Helix
http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/hardy1.htm

Pyramid Devices
http://www.rexresearch.com/golod/golod.htm

Essential Advantages of ATMA Pyramid Fermentation Plant
http://www.biogas-esu.com/advantages.htm
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:41 am

Divinity said:

One day I'm going to fly through the sombrero galaxy, and be free to not return here if I don't wish to.


On page 735 in "The Essence of the Bhagavad Gita" P. Yogananda said:

“…in the Satya Yuga, the spiritual age, the ideal man has the capacity to comprehend the source of universal magnetism…he will have the power of continuous contact with God, becoming a Brahmin, or knower of God. His perception will be through intuition: interplanetary and interastral travel will be accomplished not by airplanes or atomic airships, but by instantaneous astral projection. He will have mastered the full spectrum of divine powers. -.


The Essence of the Bhagavad Gita
http://www.essenceofthegita.com/

What is astral travel? Is remote viewing the same as astral travel?

The 1973 Remote Viewing Probe of the Planet Jupiter – Ingo Swann
http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages ... Probe.html

Extraterrestial vs. Extradimensional
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... fo1.htm#u3

When we travel to other planets or star systems, we call it astral travel. When other entities visit us here on earth we call it an invasion.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:02 pm

The Motion and Structure of Matter under Universal Magnetism
http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/arti ... ure-gh.pdf

The Universal Magnetism

Magnetic force always co-exists with gravitations. Comparatively to the electromagnetic interaction, the universal gravitation and its co-existed magnetic interaction can be called as mass-magnetic interaction. It’s the most fundamental interaction in universe. The movement of any neutral substance can cause a certain magnetic field. All neutral substances encounter a Lorentz force as they are moving in a magnetic field. This force is called as universal magnetism, or mass-magnetism so as to differentiate to electromagnetic force.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Divinity » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:07 am

lizzie wrote:Divinity said:

One day I'm going to fly through the sombrero galaxy, and be free to not return here if I don't wish to.


On page 735 in "The Essence of the Bhagavad Gita" P. Yogananda said:

“…in the Satya Yuga, the spiritual age, the ideal man has the capacity to comprehend the source of universal magnetism…he will have the power of continuous contact with God, becoming a Brahmin, or knower of God. His perception will be through intuition: interplanetary and interastral travel will be accomplished not by airplanes or atomic airships, but by instantaneous astral projection. He will have mastered the full spectrum of divine powers. -.


The Essence of the Bhagavad Gita
http://www.essenceofthegita.com/

What is astral travel? Is remote viewing the same as astral travel?

The 1973 Remote Viewing Probe of the Planet Jupiter – Ingo Swann
http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages ... Probe.html

Extraterrestial vs. Extradimensional
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... fo1.htm#u3

When we travel to other planets or star systems, we call it astral travel. When other entities visit us here on earth we call it an invasion.



Very good points, Lizzie..thank you :D I really liked the article about aliens and respect Vallee's work, with the disclaimer that not all abductions may be as he describes. I do believe we are being visited by many species of off-worlders (or, indeed, intelligent species who may have occupied the Earth before humans) particularly at this time of a new paradigm shift.

I am a good visualiser and intuitionally feel things but do not have brilliant aural or visual psychic insight. I do feel that there is a subtle difference between astral travel (in dreams, near-death-experiences, focused/intended desire to leave the body) and consciously visualising 'flying through the galaxy', although I cannot say why or how this is. Remote viewing is not astral travel necessarily either - I think it depends on whether one is simply 'watching' or actually present at an event. Thanks for raising this as it's only just now prompted me to think these possibilities through. Visualisation is a must for all 'Light-work'.

I feel very sure that the level of these mental faculties is related to the level of our understanding of nature/our Universe; it's not simply intuition alone. The art of visualising/feeling oneself in the aether itself can only really be understood when one understands what it is.

I agree about space travel. I've always believed rocket ships/anti-gravity machines wouldn't be necessary for space or time travel - that our intrinsic link with the energy that pervades all enables us to become One with It, i.e there are no boundaries (out of body), and this is really what the next great leap of evolution for mankind will result in.

Strange how 'Magnetism' took off more than Electricity or Electro-Magnetism in times gone by (in the spiritual world sense). I'm sure this was another ploy, unless they really didn't know. The psychological effects of the two forces are very different, if you think about it. :ugeek:

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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby lizzie » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:43 pm

Divinity said:

I do believe we are being visited by many species of off-worlders (or, indeed, intelligent species who may have occupied the Earth before humans) particularly at this time of a new paradigm shift.


Yes, I agree with you. I can think of no other explanation other than these entities are "astral travelers" from other star systems; and they have been known to arrive in greater numbers during an impending “paradigm change” or catastrophe.

Divinity said:

Strange how 'Magnetism' took off more than Electricity or Electro-Magnetism in times gone by (in the spiritual world sense). I'm sure this was another ploy, unless they really didn't know. The psychological effects of the two forces are very different, if you think about it.


There are several interesting “spiritual” links on universal magnetism. However, I did find two “scientifically-oriented” articles.

From what I can determine, it seems that the magnetic force plays a more active role at the atomic and sub-atomic level than does electricity. (I'll probably get "creamed" for saying that.) 8-)

Magnetic Effects on Living Organisms
http://www.wrf.org/alternative-therapie ... anisms.php

Father Kircher stated that ‘there is but one magnet in the universe and from it proceeds the magnetization of everything existing.’ He labeled this the Spiritual Son or God. All things exist within the universal magnetic fluid.

Maxwell went on to state in his book, Medicina Magnetica, that there are important propositions to be aware of regarding magnetic attractions: “There is a universal attraction, or what some people call a world-soul, it is life, as fire and ethereal as light itself. All matter is destitute of action, except when this life-force, magnetic force, permeates it.” Maxwell also stated that the life force, magnetism, is found in nature free from all fetters, and “he who understands how to unite it with a harmonizing body, possess a treasure which exceeds all riches.”


THANGA SWAMIGAL
http://www.par.org.ar/Miembros/swamigall.htm

Magnetic force or energy exists all through the universe pervading everywhere. This universal magnetic force is called the Almighty or God by the Scriptures. This magnetic force exists all through the universe. In human beings also this magnetic force or energy exists. This bio magnetic force is called the soul or athma.

The merging of this biomagnetic force with the universal magnetic force is termed as Samadhi or Perfection. The soul merges with God as one.


Cosmic Connections
http://www.earthlit.com/articles/astro_ ... tions.html

We are living in a time/space-based universe where everything manifests through opposite polarities such as hot and cold, night and day, soft and hard, etc. This is also reflected in a cosmic cycle we are part of here on Earth. It is called the great galactic cycle. It consists of an implied motion by which the Sun revolves around a grand center, the seat of the creative power, the universal magnetism. This center is of a subtle electromagnetic and spiritual nature. It cannot be verified on the material plane. Nevertheless, the center of the Milky Way galaxy mentioned above is its physical correlation. The location where the Sun is closest to this magnetic center coincides with the time of most spiritual knowledge. The point farthest from the center equals the darkest time where the mind becomes so dense that it can no longer grasp anything beyond the gross material level.


The elpron -- the electron and proton, through magnetic coupling, establish the basic hydrogen building block

Universal Magnetism and Aether Theory
http://www.geocities.com/rlok69/chap07.htm

As a suitable replacement atomic model, a resilient scavenger atomic hypothesis emerged; a magneto-mechanical atomic model that at the extremes of activity (from absolute zero to thermonuclear), to extremes of pressure (from an absolute vacuum to cold fusion compaction), the mechanism sustains atomic stability, integrity, and flexibility, removing exception, mystery, uncertainty, and complexity at the mechanical level. With reservation, for the purposes of this discussion, working as unique systems in Nature's Universe, two sub-atomic magnetic field stimulating particles need consideration; the electron and proton, that through magnetic coupling established Nature's basic building block, the elpron (an ELectron-PRotON or Hydrogen atom), that because of its open and directed magnetic field links to, aligns with, and couples to other Hydrogen atoms forming molecular Hydrogen (H2).


Universal gravitation and magnetic interaction produce mass-magnetic interaction.

The Motion and Structure of Matter under Universal Magnetism
http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/arti ... ure-gh.pdf

The magnetic force always co-exists with gravitations. Comparatively to the electromagnetic interaction, the universal gravitation and its co-existed magnetic interaction can be called as mass-magnetic interaction. It’s the most fundamental interaction in universe. The movement of any neutral substance can cause a certain magnetic field. All neutral substances encounter a Lorentz force as they are moving in a magnetic field. This force is called as universal magnetism, or mass-magnetism so as to differentiate to electromagnetic force.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:27 pm

Divinity,
It appears that you are unable or unwilling to answer my post of Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:03 pm yet you have managed to find the time to post more unsubstaniated speculation and wishful-thinking (Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:07 pm).

I, too, am interested in how life must have been in the Golden Age particularly as it intuitively feels as if that was how life should be; it certainly feels more natural than the way of life now in most cultures/countries.

Would you care to dilate on this? Just how was life in the 'Golden Age'? Can you define exactly what constitutes 'natural'?

Again, referring to 'cycles', if the environment were temperate all year round and there was no definite night or day and/or seasons, it stands to reason that 'cycles' wouldn't be of major importance to those people.

How does it 'stand to reason that 'cycles' wouldn't be of major importance'? Assuming, for the sake of the arguement, that your Golden Age existed, would it not be possible that the humans of that period could still detect variations in the day, the year, etc.? The lifeforms on Earth would, presumably, still be born, grow, decline and die. Or consider, let us say, a modern species of butterfly which lives for only a single day. Do you think that this butterfly does not or cannot detect subtle variations during the (to us) brief span of its life? Humans do not create or invent cycles; cycles are part and parcel of the way the Universe works.

There is no doubt in my mind that husbandry and agriculture, literature, the arts, culture and even language did not naturally 'evolve' but that we had some advanced help from another Race after the cataclysm.


Pity this help didn't come before the cataclysm isn't it? Perhaps your doubt-less mind could shed some light upon this?

Your quote from Blavatsky seems apropos of nothing relevant to this thread. Furthermore, the quote mentions'Rounds' which word, to me at least, is suggestive of cycles, the existance of which you continually deny yet equally continue to mention.

Blavatsky et al were SO close to the universal truth. Because electricity was relatively new, she knew God or the 'Ether' was electric or magnetic (fluid) but didn't quite get it right (just as well as her intents weren't entirely pure).

Big of you to say so, old boy. Would you care to share the 'universal truth' with us mere mortals on this forum? Knowledge of electricity, in its modern guise, had been around for a hundred years or more. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_electricity for a brief and simple synopsis. Frankly, I would have thought that one versed in the universal truth would have known this already.

It's fair to say most scientists, inventors, literary and spiritual people were Theosophists during the turn of the Century. Combined, these very powerful people at the top of most Western pyramids created an occult environment which was both informative AND dangerous. They combined ether science beliefs with magik, mysticism and many Eastern philosophies...it was a lethal mix which went on to have DRAMATIC effects on all global societies, and even today, is highly influencial in many fields.


That first sentence is nonsense. Can you in any way, shape or form back up this claim? And I do not mean by naming a few Britons and Americans; I would expect to see French, Belgian, German, Italian, Swedish etc., etc.
The second sentence is yet another baseless assertion on your part. What 'occult environment'? Why or how was it both 'informative and dangerous'?
The third and final sentence is yet another one of your melodramatic statements which do not stand up to a moment's scrutiny. The subjects 'science', 'magic' (or 'magick'), 'mysticism' and 'philosophy' (Eastern or otherwise) are not mutually exclusive in any way. Nor are they in any way intrinsically bad, evil or nefarious, whether studied singularly or in combination. I myself study all of these and several other subjects but have not as yet been invited to become a member of some cabal with ambitions of world-domination and do not feel the least bit inclined to start my own.
I suspect I am asking in vain, but would it be at all possible to furnish any evidence of why it was a lethal mix; how it went on to have DRAMATIC effects; and how and where exactly this influence is still to be found today?

I have not yet had time to read the article by Goodrick-Clarke from which you quote. However, the last sentence: "Then, with a quick reference to modern science, she recalls that all cerebration and brain-activity are accompanied by electrical phenomena, thus suggesting that human intelligence correlates to electricity..." appears incorrect in regard to Blavatsky's views. One thing Blavatsky was not was a materialist; she would not have taken electrical
activity in the brain as correlating to human intelligence. Intelligence comes from the mind which transmits it to the brain (the receiver). Your man is closer to the mark in defining what the Theosophists understand Fohat to be.

Fohat is a Tibetan term for the energic or motion aspect of the Supreme Spirit. It is usually considered in its metaphysical aspect, which is rather difficult to understand; therefore, side by side with the metaphysical, the ethical and practical-application aspect should also be understood.
Fohat–The Great Transformer [Reprinted from THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, March 1964.] at:
http://www.teosofia.com/Mumbai/7208fohat.html



Fohat: Theosophy Occultism Mysticism Dictionary on Fohat
By G. de Purucker, compiled by Geoffrey Barborka

Fohat

An extremely mystical term used in the occultism of Tibet for what in Sanskrit is called daiviprakriti, which means "divine nature" or "primordial nature," and which also can be called "primordial light." In one sense of the word fohat may be considered as almost identical
with the old mystical Greek eros, but fohat as a technical term contains within itself a far wider range of ideas than does the Greek term.

Fohat may be considered as the essence of kosmic electricity, provided, however, that in this definition we endow the term electricity with the attribute of consciousness; or, to put it more accurately, provided that we understand that the essence of electricity is indeed consciousness. It is ever-present and active from the primordial beginnings of a manvantara to its last end, nor does it then actually pass out of existence, but becomes quiescent or latent as it were, sleeping or dormant during the kosmic pralaya. In one sense of the word it may be called kosmic will, for the analogy with the conscious will in human beings is exceedingly close. It is the incessantly active, ever-moving, impelling or urging force in
nature, from the beginning of the evolution of a universe or of a solar system to its end.

H. P. Blavatsky, quoting one of the ancient mystically occult works, says in substance: "Fohat is the steed and thought is the rider." If, however, we liken fohat to what the conscious will is in the human being, we must then think only of the lower or substantial parts - the pranic activities - of the human will, for behind the substantial parts stands always the directing and guiding consciousness. Fohat being incessantly active is therefore both formative and destructive, because it is through the ceaseless working of fohat that unending change continues - the passing of one phase of manifested existence to another phase, whether this manifested existence be a solar system or a planetary chain or a globe or human being or, indeed, any entity.

Fohat is as active among the electrons of an atom and among the atoms themselves as it is among the suns. In one sense it may be called the vital force of the universe, corresponding from this viewpoint to the pranic activity on all the seven planes of the human constitution.

From:
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Fohat/id/69045

Liken that kind of philosophy to those extolled in ALL Secret

Societies: members become 'keepers of the secrets', they're elitist, they hold the lost, hidden keys to universal truths, they hold science in high esteem, they practice esotericism, occultism, luciferianism, satanism, paganism and even Catholocism (!), but there WAS AND IS STILL an ingredient missing!


Back to more of your own sensationalist nonsense. Firstly, one wonders just how secret these Secret Societies are when you appear to know so much about them. Secondly not all members of such societies become 'keepers of the secrets. Although I have some sympathy for your view that they are elitist, ultimately I must disagree, if only because you lump together so many different types of groups or societies. I will come back elitism shortly.
Can you enlighten us as to why esotericism and occultism are to be frowned upon? Or paganism? Or even Satanism, Luciferianism and Catholicism?
You appear uncertain as to whether these 'keys to universal truths' are lost or hidden. I would argue that they are neither lost nor hidden as each individual carries them inside his- or herself (the kingdom of God is within for example). Where the elitism comes into play is that each individual has to discover the keys for theirself. This, in essence, is what a Seeker is. The seeking requires dedication and application over many years. The vast majority of people are not prepared to put in the work and prefer to be told what to do and think (Casting pearls before swine). You yourself provide a good example of this in that you give the impression that you are waiting for some benign extra-terrestrials to come and save us.

Asklepios: Are, then, not all men similarly conscient,
Trismegistus?

Hermes: All, Asklepios, have not the true intelligence.
They are deceived when they suffer themselves to be
drawn after the image of things, without seeking for
the true reason of them. It is thus that evil is
produced in man; and that the first of all creatures
lowers himself almost to the level of brutes.


"Then only will you see it, when you cannot speak of it; for the knowledge of it is deep silence and suppression of all the senses."

Hermes Trimegistus (Lib. x.6)


“When you go into the space of nothingness, everything becomes known.”
The Buddha


"Beware the barrenness of a busy life". - Socrates.


“Truth is within us; it takes no rise
from outward things, whate’er you may believe.

There is an inmost center in us all,
Where truth abides in fullness; and around,
Wall upon wall, the gross flesh hems it in,
This perfect clear perception – which is truth.

A baffling and perverting carnal mesh
Binds it, and makes all error – and to know,
Rather consists in opening out a way
Whence the imprisoned splendor may escape,
Than in effecting entry for a light
Supposed to be without.”
From “Paracelsus” by Robert Browning.


"In titling this work The Second Coming of Christ, I am not referring to a literal return of Jesus to earth....A thousand Christs sent to earth would not redeem its people unless they themselves become Christlike by purifying and expanding their individual consciousness to receive therein the second coming of the Christ Consciousness, as was manifested in Jesus....Contact with this Consciousness, experienced in the ever new joy of meditation, will be the real second coming of Christ — and it will take place right in the devotee's own
consciousness."
—Paramahansa Yogananda


"Know Thyself" - Entrance to the Oracle of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi.
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:20 pm

Divinity,
Just read the article at:
http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/g ... olelec.htm
An interesting historical overview, though I'm not quite sure what the purpose of it was.
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby tholden » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:18 pm

My own take on Jaynes lives at:

http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/babel.html

I view it as the single most interesting item on the site. Basic realities concerning Jaynes as I see it include the following:

Jaynes assumed an evolutionary model, which was wrong. He assumed that man had somehow evolved into a state in which societies were governed by a system of "auditory hallucinations" as of around 3000 years ago. I don't picture evolving INTO a dysfunctional condition and the world of the OT was intensely dysfunctional for the most part.

His description of the end of the bicameral world is not believable. Al DeGrazia's version of the thing IS believable. The bicameral world basically ended when the static electrical phenomena which supported it collapsed. Jaynes and DeGrazia appear to be consistently describing the same things as bicameral and electrical phenomena and nobody should need to be Albert Einstein to add 2 and 2 to four. A few of the DeGrazia/Crossthwaite treatises on static electricity in the ancient world are downloadable from bearfabrique:

http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/degrazia.html

Antique religious practices involved static electricity and trance states. The closest thing we have to such old-time religion in our present world is EVP, as per

http://www.aaevp.com

That appears to work because electronic devices do not have any consciousness to overcome and therefore are in no need of trance states.

The human mind and brain appear to have originally been hardwired for a form of communication as far above anything we have as our best comms technologies are above smoke signals. Literature describing the antediluvian world indicates that the classical world which Jaynes assumed to have evolved actually represented a DEVOLUTION from a state in which the phenomena he described represented the normal mode of communication.

The most striking thing about the OT is the different perspective between Genesis and the rest of the books. The words 'prophet' and 'prophesy' permeate the other books but 'prophet' only appears once in Genesis in the vague reference to Abraham as "God's Prophet", after the flood. In Genesis, God speaks to people directly and the various bicameral practices which Jaynes describes do not appear to be necessary. In other words, Cain does not go to his neighborhood prophet and say something like

Hey man, I need you to get into your trance state and see if the Lord might be bent out of shape about me croaking Abel!


or any such. Had Genesis been written by the author of any of the other OT books, the tale would assuredly read that way.

The one really huge mystery which Jaynes clears up is the question of idolatry and what it actually involved and amounted to, and why its elimination should be the most major theme of the OT and the first commandment should basically amount to a banning of it. Idolatry apparently very nearly turned the entire planet into an insane asylum for almost a thousand years.
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Re: Quantavolution,Solaria Binaria,Homo Schizoid,Bicameral Mind

Unread postby Divinity » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:41 am

Grey Cloud wrote:
Would you care to dilate on this? Just how was life in the 'Golden Age'? Can you define exactly what constitutes 'natural'?


How does it 'stand to reason that 'cycles' wouldn't be of major importance'? Assuming, for the sake of the arguement, that your Golden Age existed, would it not be possible that the humans of that period could still detect variations in the day, the year, etc.? The lifeforms on Earth would, presumably, still be born, grow, decline and die. Or consider, let us say, a modern species of butterfly which lives for only a single day. Do you think that this butterfly does not or cannot detect subtle variations during the (to us) brief span of its life? Humans do not create or invent cycles; cycles are part and parcel of the way the Universe works.

Pity this help didn't come before the cataclysm isn't it? Perhaps your doubt-less mind could shed some light upon this?




Yes, more natural to me means no consumption of flesh to survive, no warring between tribes, no use of science to spoil nature (GM foods, Terminator seeds, etc.), brotherhood between mankind and all other aspects of nature, no mining of rocks for material wealth, no economies based on illusory numbers, etc. etc. etc. In fact, almost everything humans do today is ‘unnatural’ as I see it. Research about the Golden Age even suggests everything in the environment was friendly and harmonious, i.e. there was no aggression in the animal kingdom either. This leads me to believe that whatever changed man’s consciousness also changed nature…and the ‘Law of the Jungle’ kicked in.

I am not a Luddite. I believe we can easily progress left and right brain capabilities, merge science with spirituality and enhance nature in harmony. As Steven O says so brilliantly today, with the example of Mr. Tesla, the last 100 years particularly have been the dark ages in this respect.



Sacred Geometry is the language of God. This is why the language we use is important, psychologically. Circles/cycles are not Spirals and it's important to see the difference between man-man creations and natural ones.

If there was no need to grow crops, no need for reproductive (fertility) rituals, and, indeed, no death to worry about, during the Golden Age, why would we need cycles? Again, research leads me to believe that we lived off the land naturally (food was abundant in the form of fruits, nuts, berries, etc.), that people were gentle and happy, that there was no ‘death’, just tales of people ‘going to sleep’. IF we were in a geostatic orbit around a giant planet, far far away from the Sun, in an environmental ‘bubble’ very different from our atmosphere now, is it too hard for you to believe that everything in our culture/life would be different, including our minds?

There is no evidence I have uncovered to suggest that Mankind farmed or hunted before the cataclysm so it stands to reason that the skills he acquired afterward were probably taught to him from a more advanced race.

Moon, Sun, seasonal, fertility cycles, etc., are used by Man to benefit particular needs. If those needs were removed, there would be no need to follow ‘cycles'. Cycles, to me, suggests entropy. In my mind, the Universe originates all from vortices (spirals). How arrogant of Man to assume that just because He adopts 'cycles', so does His Universe? Bear in mind there are 7bn humans out there who believe the Universe is random and chaotic. Everything stems from that understanding. This is why the EU theory is so vital - there is no chaos, no incoherence, no uncertainty principle, no black holes and no End.


(I will post separately regarding Theosophy as this is a huge subject).
See below please.

Divinity

Some quotes regarding the alleged Golden Age:

“…carefree like the gods because they never aged and death was a falling asleep. The main characteristic of this age according to Hesiod was that the earth produced food in abundance, so that agriculture was rendered superfluous. This characteristic also defines almost all later versions of the myth.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age

“…The average life expectancy of a human being in Satya Yuga is believed to be about 400 years. During Satya Yuga, most people engage only in good, sublime deeds and mankind lives in harmony with the earth. Ashrams become devoid of wickedness and deceit. Natyam (such as Bharatanatyam), according to Natya Shastra, did not exist in the Satya Yuga "because it was the time when all people were happy".
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