Maddogkull1 wrote:junglelord wrote: I find the proper definitions of dimensions lies in the work of Dave Thomson of the Aether Physics Model.

Mass is a dimension, as is length, frequency, charge. Consciouness is a field, not a dimension.

So you are saying consciouness is a field that exists everywhere in the universe? Im sort of confused what you mean by "field" though? Can you care to explain how consciouness is a field? Seems more logical that it is just produced in the brain

I will quote two chapters of Wilbert Smiths new science book.

The concept of 12 is very important when trying to understand why we have reality and not just a universe.

Buckyfuller and Smith agree on that item, which intrigues me.

The concept of a field fabrics is intimitely tied to our own reality and is why we have reality awareness in the first place. So Fields and their definition and their relationships to awareness need to be redefined to understand consciouness in this construct which I learned from creating a synthesis of the Holographic Universe>Mind, The Fractal Universe, The Collect Behaviour Universe, The Tempic Universe, The writings of Seth. I would term the electron a conscious unit.

Chapter IV

The Field Fabric

In establishing the Space Fabric the basic Concept of Reality was operated upon successively by the Quadrature Concept, giving the concepts of Length, Area and Volume. Further operations with the Quadrature Concept will yield more relationships which, when established may be recognized as parameters of the Universe in which Awareness finds itself.

Since the relationships established to constitute the Field Fabric do not impinge upon our awareness as directly as does Space except in their composite forms, some sort of language is needed to facilitate Understanding. To those having a mathematical background this presents no particular problem since the relationships are merely those of established Vector Algebra. To those not having such a background, understanding must be obtained through appreciation of the meanings of the actual words used. In any case, if the basic principles already set forth have been adequately understood, there should not be too great difficulty. A visualization of what is going on, extending upwards from Nothing-At-All, as the Quadrature Concept is applied successively to Reality and its derivatives, is really what is called for.

The application of the Quadrature Concept to the Third Parameter yields a further parameter which we might describe as Density or gradient, and is really an expression of how Reality is distributed in Space. Vectorially it is the scalar view by awareness of the Volumetric parameter of Reality. It is the scale against which any change in Reality must be gauged. The Fourth Parameter is therefore essentially Change, the true Fourth Dimension. There are many interesting implications which will be studied later in more detail.

If the Quadrature Concept is applied again, another partially familiar vectorial quantity results, namely Divergence, or the stable condition in which Awareness finds Reality. This is the Fifth Parameter, which also presents some interesting implications which will studied later.

The Sixth Parameter is developed by still another application of the Quadrature Concept to Reality, which gives the vectorial quantity Curl, or Deviation or Reality, which is essentially the dynamic aspect of Reality as perceived by Awareness.

At this point it is fairly obvious that our Universe is poly-dimensional in the truest sense of the word, even though the dimensions are not quite what we fancied they ought to be. They are more correctly parameters and are aspects of Reality established by Awareness through the mechanism of the Quadrature Concept. Again, we cannot say whether or not Reality could exist without Awareness, but we believe that they are actually separate manifestations of the same thing, and one is incomplete without the other. In any case, so long as we are aware of our Universe it must be through the Parameters which are inherent in it. And there are six more of them making twelve Parameters in all, after which the system closes on itself. These Twelve Parameters are the necessary and sufficient conditions for the existence of the Universe as we are aware of it.

Although there is a smooth relationship following in the development of the various parameters we find that they fall naturally into four fabrics of three parameters each. Just as each parameter has its unique characteristic so each fabric has its own unique characteristics, which include those of the individual parameters and the interrelationships between them.

It should be noted that in the development of the three parameters in the field fabric the Quadrature Concept was applied in each case to the previously established parameter, and in its broader sense. This should not be confused with the mathematical manipulation of multiplying the previously established parameter by the square root of minus one, as this is an operation which will subsequently be employed and is similar to parallel processes which go on in the space fabric. While this distinction is fairly obvious in the space fabric it may not be so obvious in the field fabric.

Let us next look at those aspects of the Universe which impinge upon our awareness and which may possibly be identified with the parameters of the field fabric. The Fourth Parameter, Change, reaches our awareness through our concept of Time, although we have here mistaken the shadow for the substance and vice versa.

A field is a region which has a unique characteristic. The space fabric, in displaying the characteristic of Change, has a unique characteristic, so that this characteristic which so appears can qualify as a field. But the filed must be "somewhere" and the space fabric fills this need, just as Area is necessary for the evolution of the concept of Volume.

Suppose we call this field of Change a Tempic Field to give it a name of its own, so that we can study its relationship to those things which impinge upon our awareness. Inspection of the Concept shows that if the Change is great the tempic field must be great, but we associate Change with our Concept of Time which is something against which we gauge a rate of change. Expressed mathematically this rate can be written as dS/dt which expresses the manner in which something changes with respect to time. More explicitly this should be written as TS where T is the tempic field operator, and S is the aspect of Reality upon which it operates. A convenient, though only partially adequate description of the Tempic Field is "Frequency", since we recognize frequency as being a certain number of somethings per unit of time, and is dimensionally the reciprocal of Time.

Heretofore we have always considered Time as an immutable flow against which everything evolving Change could be measured, whereas, it is really the converse which is true; Change is the basic concept and Time its derivative. Unfortunately, our mathematics are geared to the Time concept and will require considerable reworking to fit them into this more precise concept, but when this is done there will result a most elegant simplification in all the analysis involving time. In the meantime the transition in thinking can be made less painful if we merely regard Time as the consequence of the existence of a Tempic Field, and is by no means fixed.

It may be interesting at this point to mention something about the velocity of light. This quantity is generally recognized to be something rather basic in our universe, being the "rate at which space changes with time", but when viewed in the light of this new field concept is merely the tempic field intensity, or how the tempic field is distributed in space. We have been told that light doesn't "travel"; it "is", which is an idea not at all foreign to the field concept. Of course, it follows that the velocity of light will be a constant only under conditions of constant tempic field, and if this field changes so will the velocity of light change.

Having had a superficial look at the Tempic Field and its derivation we may now allow our Awareness to inspect the next parameter which is Divergence to see if it is something which can be recognized. Previously we noted that Reality had to extend to infinity from zero in order to establish Space and that unity, so far as Awareness was concerned, lay half way between. With the application of the Quadrature Concept to the parameter of Change or Tempic Field, Divergence is established, from which we derive a starting point a t zero and a finish at infinity. Between these two limits and through unity there is divergence, which we can recognize as the Electric Field, but with the exception that there is no point charge at the zero. Our Awareness, however, established the "charge" at radius unity, with exactly one half of it being "inside" and the other half being "outside". The real significance of this boundary will be apparent when we study the tenth parameter.

When Divergence was established by Awareness, the Quadrature Concept was applied to the Tempic Field, so we may expect within the electric field two quantities, scalar and vector, or quantity and its manner of distribution. These attributes we recognize immediately as pertaining to the electric fields with which we have experience.

While the Tempic field is purely scalar, the application of the Quadrature Concept gave it an aspect which is vectorial in establishing the Electric Field, in that it now has "direction" as well as "quantity". In dealing with this parameter both these aspects should always be included. Otherwise the analysis is bound to be incomplete. In other words, mere vectorial summation is not sufficient and the scalar values must be integrated also. Also, we must get away from the idea that they are the manifestation of the fifth parameter from zero to infinity and in themselves are the reality.

When Awareness inspects Divergence through the Quadrature Concept and establishes Curl. Similar appreciation results, and we see in Curl many of the characteristics of the Magnetic Field, but again we have a boundary within which is half the reality and outside of which is the other half. We call that within (or without) this boundary the magnetic moment, but again we cannot establish a point source. Also, dealing with magnetic fields we must always include the scalar as well as the vectorial aspects.

Just as Area has Length incorporated in it, and Volume has Area incorporated in it, so has the Electric Field the Tempic Field incorporated in it. Each of these three fields are mutually at right angles to each other. The three fields together are the manifestation of Reality in the Field Fabric as perceived by Awareness. The interrelationships between these various fields manifests to our Awareness as Matter and Energy, and the great variety of these manifestations is well known to us.

http://www.rexresearch.com/smith1/newsci.htm#1.2rectil