.Taken from: Fulcanelli. In The Dwellings Of The Philosophers. pp33-34
De Cyrano Bergerac (26) gives an account of this tradition when, as a new inhabitant of a world near the sun, hermetic cabala is explained to him by "a naked little man seated on a stone", an expressive figure of simple, naked
truth seated on the natural stone of the philosophers.
"I do not remember if I spoke to him first", says the great Initiate, "or if he was the one who questioned me; but I have a very fresh memory, as if I were still hearing them, of how he talked to me for three long hours in a language which I know I had never heard and which bears no relationship with any language of this world, but which I understand more quickly and more intelligibly than that of my wet nurse. He explained to me, when I inquired about such a marvelous thing, that in sciences there was a truth, beyond which we always found ourselves away from simplicity, and that the more an idiom strayed from this truth the more it went below our conception and became more difficult to understand. Similarly", he continued, "in music this truth is never encountered without our soul, immediately elevated, blindly going for it. We don’t see it but we sense that Nature sees it; without being able to understand how it absorbs us, it cannot but delight us, although we cannot know where it is. And it is the same thing with languages.
Whoever encounters this truth of letters, of words, and of continuity can never, while expressing himself, fall below conception: his speech is always equal to his thoughts; and because you do not have knowledge of this perfect
language, you do not know what to say, not knowing the order or the words which could express what you imagine". I told him that the first man of our world indubitably used this language, since each name that he imposed on each thing declared its essence. He interrupted me and continued: "This language is not simply necessary to express everything that the mind conceives, but without it we cannot be understood by all. Since this idiom is the instinct or the voice of Nature, it must be understandable by everything that lives in the midst of Nature. This is why, if you knew it, you could communicate and disclose all your thoughts to animals, and animals to you all of theirs (27), because it is the very language of Nature by which she makes herself understood by all animals. Therefore be no longer surprised by the ease with which you understand the meaning of a language which your ears have never heard.
When I speak, your soul encounters, with each one of my words, the Truth that is gropingly looking for; and although its reason does not understand it, it has within it a nature which cannot but understand it".
However, this secret, universal, indefinite language, in spite of the importance and the truth of its expression, is in reality of Greek origin and genius, as our author teaches us his History of the Birds. He has some very old oak trees speak --- an allusion to the language which the Druids used ( [*78-1] --- Druidai, from [*78-2] ---Drys, oak) --- in
this manner: "Think of the oak trees which we feel you are looking at: it is we who are speaking to you, and if you are astonished that we speak the language used in the world whence you come, know that our first fathers are natives of it. They lived in Epire, in the forest of Dodona, where their natural goodness moved them to give oracles to the
afflicted people who consulted them. For this purpose, they had learned the Greek language, the most universal then in existence, so as to be understood". Hermetic cabala was known in Egypt, at least by the priestly caste, as shown by the invocation of the Leyden Papyrus: "I invoke you, the most powerful of gods who has created everything you born of yourself, who sees everything, without being seen... I invoke you under the name you possess in the language of the birds, in that of hieroglyphics, in that of the Jews, in that of the Egyptians, in that of the cynocephales... in that
of the sparrow hawk in the hieratic language". We also find this idiom among the Incas, sovereigns of Peru until the time of the Spanish conquest; the ancient writers called it lengua general (universal language), and lengua cortesana (language of the court), that is, diplomatic language, since it contains a double meaning corresponding to a double
science, one apparent, the other profound ( [*78-3] diple, double, and [*78-4], mathe, science). "The cabala", says Abbot Perroquet (28) , "was an introduction to the study of all sciences".
(26) De Cyrano Bergerac, L’Autre Monde. Histoire comique des Etats et Empires du Soleil (The Other World, Comical History of the States and Empires of the Sun), Paris, Bauche, 1910. J.J. Pauvert publisher, Paris, 1962, p. 170
Grey Cloud wrote:The bearfabrique article is simplistic bullshit, by a YEC....
tholden wrote:Grey Cloud wrote:The bearfabrique article is simplistic bullshit,...
Grey Cloud wrote:tholden wrote:Grey Cloud wrote:The bearfabrique article is simplistic bullshit,...
Grey Cloud wrote:The bearfabrique article is simplistic bullshit, by a YEC, based entirely on Jaynes, de Grazzia and the Bible. Aside from the biblical passages, it provides no sources and contains several glaring factual inaccuracies, e.g. Jaynes was a psychologist not a classicist - hence the rubbish he wrote about voices in the head as per the Iliad..Taken from: Fulcanelli. In The Dwellings Of The Philosophers. pp33-34
mague wrote:Regarding language and telepathy it is my opinion that both have nothing in common. Actually our currently high developed language is what prevents us from a more natural awareness of telepathy. I always tell people that telepathy is the world beyond the words. Its is a deeper layer in our bubble of awareness indeed.....
Okay, here I am at a major university where they pay me to teach, I know they have a medical school since I go there to get cuts sewn up and what not, and they probably have a neuro-physiology department, what the hell...
Oh, that, yeah, c'mon over here and we'll show you what that is...
Maybe you do understand him. In your previous post you wrote:Fulcanelli was a hard read for me. I am not sure if i understand him. I have problem to agree on the birds and trees.
I always tell people that telepathy is the world beyond the words. Its is a deeper layer in our bubble of awareness indeed.
. He is not talking about a universal language as such but the actual language of the Universe:and which bears no relationship with any language of this world
This 'voice of Nature' adapts itself to the ways and means of everything in Nature. Therefore in order for in order for a human to communicate with a plant, animal or mineral Nature, or the Universe if one prefer, must act as an intermediary - a sort of universal translator if you will. In other words, the human must be attuned to Nature in order to communicate with, say, a blackbird. It is not necessary to attune to the blackbird per se. The same would be true with regard to daimons or whatever you want to call them.This language is not simply necessary to express everything that the mind conceives, but without it we cannot be understood by all. Since this idiom is the instinct or the voice of Nature, it must be understandable by everything that lives in the midst of Nature.
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