Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

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Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

Unread postby goodsamaritan » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:50 am

I just viewed several Graham Hancock videos about his quest to find a lost global civilization up to 10,500 BC.

Part 1 of this 16 part video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KUVix96NsY
Quest for the lost civilization

His official website http://www.grahamhancock.com/

My question is, have the Thunderbolts founders been in touch with Graham Hancock?

Seems like a good match.
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Re: Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

Unread postby Plasmatic » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:23 pm

The only thing they really have in common is that there both seeking alternative answers to the SM of orthodox assumption in different fields.
For instance the book SUPERNATURAL would not have been written if he understood the past electrodynamic interactions that explain the patterns he is pointing at. I think the biggest differences are in the over reliance on precession as the secret cipher of all ancient peoples.
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Re: Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

Unread postby goodsamaritan » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:41 pm

I'm thinking of Graham Hancock had a better idea of the Electric Universe he could make adjustments.
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Re: Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

Unread postby StevenJay » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:50 am

goodsamaritan wrote:I'm thinking of Graham Hancock had a better idea of the Electric Universe he could make adjustments.

Same goes for Weidner, Wilcock, Hoagland, Cremo, Childress (to list but a few), as well as, pretty much the entire UFO community. I have corresponded with many of these people over the years, encouraging them to at least check out the EU model, as it may hold answers to many of the mysteries (or at least broaden the field of possible considerations) they have encountered over the course of their individual areas of passion and research. Incredibly, it would appear that none of those I have written to considers it to be a worthwhile endeavor. I find it to be really frustrating to see so many intelligent people holding so many different pieces of the puzzle, and yet they don't seem to want to communicate with each other and share what they've found.

Could that possibly be due to the same money/status/credibility/security-thing that keeps so many mainstream researchers locked into a particular consensus paradigm? Even though it's already happening in certain circles, I feel that the concept of interdisciplinary study needs to be expanded, and its importance fully realized, at this juncture in the human experience. Otherwise, all of the seemingly disparate bits of inquiry being engaged in all over the world amount to little more than a group of Whirling Dervishes, each spinning blissfully in his own private universe. . . wondering.
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Re: Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

Unread postby StevenJay » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:35 am

Plasmatic wrote:For instance the book SUPERNATURAL would not have been written if he understood the past electrodynamic interactions that explain the patterns he is pointing at. I think the biggest differences are in the over reliance on precession as the secret cipher of all ancient peoples.

Ever since I was first exposed to (and immediately resonated with) David's reconstructive work on the Saturn Myth, my curiosity has been voracious! Quite often I find myself viewing various aspects of the world around us, which we have come to accept as being unquestioningly solid, through the SM filter. Your mentioning of over-reliance on precession set those wheels a spinnin' again.

IF Talbott's version of the Saturn Myth is true, at least for the most part, then Earth's current orientation to the heavens is only some - what - 5,000 to 13,000 years old? If so, then we've yet to experience more than half of a single precessional "cycle." And, since there are no guarantees that the current planetary orientation will continue, uninterrupted, for another 13k years, why should anyone consider "precession" to be any more than just another projected theory based on Newtonian clockwork cosmology? I mean, it's entirely possible that it's merely a "temporary" phenomenon. So, yeah, I think it's being way over-rated.
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Re: Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

Unread postby mague » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:57 am

StevenJay wrote:
IF Talbott's version of the Saturn Myth is true, at least for the most part, then Earth's current orientation to the heavens is only some - what - 5,000 to 13,000 years old? If so, then we've yet to experience more than half of a single precessional "cycle." And, since there are no guarantees that the current planetary orientation will continue, uninterrupted, for another 13k years, why should anyone consider "precession" to be any more than just another projected theory based on Newtonian clockwork cosmology? I mean, it's entirely possible that it's merely a "temporary" phenomenon. So, yeah, I think it's being way over-rated.


Of course there is no guarantee for endless uninterrupted cycles. But this isnt Newtons imagination of a clockwork cosmos. This was observed by many other people.

1955 Maria Sabina told R. Gordon Wasson about her visions. She saw wheels turning within wheels in the sky. She was a humble woman and most probably never heared about Newton. I am not sure, but i doubt she ever had been to any school. Unfortunately it seems this text is no longer on the net. But soem still call her the clock woman.
The wheels have been sacred in america for a while. The medicine wheel for example. Even mainstream archeology tells us that maya knew the wheel. They builded roads, but never carts. They only used wheels for child toys and as goal for their sacred ball game.

Otherwise i agree. People should compare their knowledge. Scientists mix different pictures of visible light, radio, infrared, whatever to gain a better picture. Alternative researchers should do the same.
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Re: Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

Unread postby kevin » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:20 am

goodsamaritan,
I enjoyed those youtube clips, and find the content revealing, the archaeological content that is.
I find Mr Hancocks assumptions annoying, and all the time He is blasting others over making assumptions?

I agree that a meeting of many disciplins is needed, and those with an electrical understanding have been too absent for too long.
Hancocks reliance on visual sight alignments is pathetic, imho.
The ancient sites will all be aligned to the lattice grid, I have checked ceaselessly everyone I can get to here and in France, there is no doubt what so ever by my research that it is the manipulation of a dual flowing aether that is their reason for construction, the alignments are not visual at all, but of course do co-incide with extreme positions of planets etc in the galaxy, the pathways involved are not circuler, they are spiral, and those spiral pathways are to scale and all symbiotic to each other, our vision is limited and gives illusions.
The most telling part of his clips was at Angkor wat, where the bridge clearly shows the churning of the ocean of universe, a duality of spirals where the ocean is moving, NOT the FIXED matter created in that ocean, and any moving ocean produces potentials.
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Re: Will Thunderbolts work with Graham Hancock?

Unread postby JohnMT » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:39 am

goodsamaritan wrote:
I'm thinking of Graham Hancock had a better idea of the Electric Universe he could make adjustments.


I'm sure Graham Hancock (GH) does have a pretty good idea about the Electric Universe principles etc.

I've been posting on his website in defence of this very same subject, in most of its forms, including some of my own ideas too, for the past six or seven years!
So he must have read at least some of these posts.
However, I don't know GH's opinions and views on the EU, though I would suspect he is basically mainstream orientated, believing for instance that the last Ice Age terminated some 12,500 years ago (or thereabouts).

Though many aspects of the EU hypothesis have been discussed, unfortunately there are not that many adherents.

Anyway, in my opinion, the GH Website is worthy of a visit, there are some really good thinkers there on many related subjects.
Perhaps some of you guys might join and lend some support when at times the going gets tough (though I can usually hold my own).
The discussion Board is quite heavily moderated, so it is best not to get too emotional when staking one's claim (as I have mistakenly done in the past)

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