Better videos... Human Origins
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Better videos... Human Origins
Hardware and software both better than the last time I tried to do anything like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KipG79p ... fLFDN7W8WA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KipG79p ... fLFDN7W8WA
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Re: Better videos... Human Origins
Videos available for Ganymede Hypothesis:
15-minute intro to the hypothesis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KipG79pXc84
The human/hominid disconnect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UELi57CJulA
The Nature of Ganymede: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtdDV1D ... fLFDN7W8WA
15-minute intro to the hypothesis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KipG79pXc84
The human/hominid disconnect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UELi57CJulA
The Nature of Ganymede: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtdDV1D ... fLFDN7W8WA
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Pye was totally correct in claiming that humans could not be native to this planet. The basic idea in watching his videos is to watch up to the point at which he starts talking about "Annunaki", and then turn the video off.spark wrote:Lloyd Pye on Human Origins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TKCNKaJPQ
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The Anunnaki Lloyd Pye refers to are most likely these guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX08YcLr-k8
they built all those megalith structures and pyramids long ago.
https://www.youtube.com/user/brienfoerster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX08YcLr-k8
they built all those megalith structures and pyramids long ago.
https://www.youtube.com/user/brienfoerster
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It appears in the video that he is asking the question: "What came first, the chicken or the egg; the man or the DNA". It also occurred to me that perhaps life was created by an electrical z-pinch. The twisted filaments of Birkland currents appear very similar to the twisted filaments of DNA. Perhaps the chicken and the egg, the man and the DNA, were created and made simultaneously.
Creation implies imagination and design which requires a designer. Making something is simply following the blueprint or design. The chicken is the finished design; the egg is the blueprint; some form of external energy and work is necessary to implement, or construct the chicken. An architect, raw material, and a construction company are necessary to make a chicken.
Creation implies imagination and design which requires a designer. Making something is simply following the blueprint or design. The chicken is the finished design; the egg is the blueprint; some form of external energy and work is necessary to implement, or construct the chicken. An architect, raw material, and a construction company are necessary to make a chicken.
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More than most likely we did not evolve from primates and there is no evidence we did, only evidence we didn't...and the common ancestor hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis. Even if it is presented as quasi fact. As for coming from another planet, it could be but I'm in no way convinced. Life is specific to location, in the general and local sense. If Mars were further away, all life on Earth would change. If we were further from the sun we'd be different. So what came from another planet? If we did it didn't look like us unless it's saolar system was identical. Humanoid upright is the result of gravity and levity which is on every stellar body. Perhaps life is an inherent result of those forces like fish are the result of water?
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Uh huh. No relation?Vecta3 wrote:More than most likely we did not evolve from primates and there is no evidence we did, only evidence we didn't
It's a hypothesis with a mountain of evidence behind it: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/...and the common ancestor hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis.
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Science itself has proven that we are NOT related to any living, dead or fossilsed primate. So, as far as we know, the chimps pictured in your post are not a relation to humans. Simlarity doesn't make it so either.chrimony wrote:Uh huh. No relation?Vecta3 wrote:More than most likely we did not evolve from primates and there is no evidence we did, only evidence we didn't
It's a hypothesis that you believe to be a fact. Can you show it in simple plain English that the layman can understand? The link provided strikes me as bamboozling tactic. If we have dinosaur fossils, which supposedly came before humans, then why no missing link fossil? The previous one's presented always end up as primate or human but that rarely gets the headlines. Why isn't there actual, concrete genealogical, or other, definitive proof? There should be yet it'll never surface.It's a hypothesis with a mountain of evidence behind it: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/...and the common ancestor hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis.
Creationism is not the only other alternative. I do think the creationists have enabled the topic to be scientifically dissected even if their ultimate conclusions are not what I would come to. But then conclusions prevent enquiry anyway...unless they're absolutely obvious and proven, which this, whilst it should be, isn't. Hedging and fudging to fit a model. Never mind how clever the link likes to tries and sound it offers zilch actual proof where there should be plenty. Why? How can that be? Are you even asking these questions?
Forbidden Science - Shattering the Myths of Darwin's Theory of Evolution https://youtu.be/7Wr-lXLGCxQ
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What is your explanation, then, for the similarities?Vecta3 wrote:So, as far as we know, the chimps pictured in your post are not a relation to humans. Simlarity doesn't make it so either.
I didn't say it was a "fact". I said it was a hypothesis with a mountain of evidence behind it. I disagree when evolution is presented as a "fact", but I also disagree when it is presented as "just a theory" or "hypothesis" in a dismissive way.It's a hypothesis that you believe to be a fact.
On the one hand, you claim, "Science itself has proven that we are NOT related to any living, dead or fossilsed primate." On the other, when presented with scientific evidence, you complain it's too scientific to understand and dismiss it. This video presents much of the same evidence and is easier to understand. Pay particular attention to the DNA evidence.Can you show it in simple plain English that the layman can understand? The link provided strikes me as bamboozling tactic.
You can find plenty of transitional fossils: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... ermediatesIf we have dinosaur fossils, which supposedly came before humans, then why no missing link fossil?
Arguing about minor transitions isn't very interesting to me. The creationists often like to say species can differentiate via natural selection, but they are of the same "kind", and it's the major jumps between species that can't happen, such as going from a land mammal to a whale. By creationist standards, humans are of the same "kind" as apes, but they'll never admit to that.The previous one's presented always end up as primate or human but that rarely gets the headlines.
Most of that video is fluff with a few anomalies thrown in to cast doubt, but does not address the mountain of evidence for evolution. But to go back to the whale, the presenter in your video makes the same argument as creationists 12 minutes in. He says, "No Darwinist today would be rash enough to stand up and say that a bear can turn into a whale. ... The idea is unsupported by evidence today just as it was in Darwin's day when he removed the example from his book."Forbidden Science - Shattering the Myths of Darwin's Theory of Evolution https://youtu.be/7Wr-lXLGCxQ
And yet there's fossil, DNA, and vestigial evidence that the whale evolved from a four-legged mammal (not a bear, but a hippo being the closest living relative by DNA), which is exactly what you'd expect from evolution and common descent.
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Similarities suggest variations of a common design. A design requires a Designer.chrimony wrote: Vecta3 wrote:
So, as far as we know, the chimps pictured in your post are not a relation to humans. Simlarity doesn't make it so either.
What is your explanation, then, for the similarities?
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I agree. The idea of a 2 ton hippo turning into a 70 ton whale is exactly what I would expect from an evolutionist. The similarities are obvious. Also, plankton is much healthier than grass.chrimony wrote:And yet there's fossil, DNA, and vestigial evidence that the whale evolved from a four-legged mammal (not a bear, but a hippo being the closest living relative by DNA), which is exactly what you'd expect from evolution and common descent.
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Evolution doesn't need a designer, and similarities (extreme in the case of humans, chimps, and gorillas) indicate common descent, which also matches the DNA analysis as indicated by viruses and other mutations that allow us to trace back ancestors.jtb wrote:Similarities suggest variations of a common design. A design requires a Designer.
And I'd expect a creationist to reply with a flippant comment while ignoring the fossil, vestigial, and DNA evidence, as well as all features that make a whale a mammal. And just to be precise, it's not claimed that the hippo turned into a whale, only that the hippo is the closest species that alive today that shared a common ancestor.I agree. The idea of a 2 ton hippo turning into a 70 ton whale is exactly what I would expect from an evolutionist. The similarities are obvious. Also, plankton is much healthier than grass.
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But the choice is not just between creationism and evolution. Also, emphatic as you put, there is still no proof that man evolved from primates. So how you can speak to others as if they have two heads doesn't really add up to me, but hey. Evidence in favour of is still not proof. Really, it should be easy to prove if it were so. Why is it not concrete? It's a fair question.
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Darwin never said that man evolved from primates. What he said was that primates and humans evolved from the same progenitor. Given that , according to Darwin, everything evolved from the same origin one could make a similar comment vis a vis humans and oak trees.Vecta3 wrote:But the choice is not just between creationism and evolution. Also, emphatic as you put, there is still no proof that man evolved from primates. So how you can speak to others as if they have two heads doesn't really add up to me, but hey. Evidence in favour of is still not proof. Really, it should be easy to prove if it were so. Why is it not concrete? It's a fair question.
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