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The Mind Readers

Unread postby Sparky » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:11 am

http://mosaicscience.com/story/mind-readers
Thousands remain trapped between life and death. Three scientists are working to free them.


“Imagine you wake up, locked inside a box,” says Adrian Owen. “It’s only just big enough to hold your body but sufficiently small that you can’t move.

“It’s a perfect fit, down to every last one of your fingers and toes. It’s a strange box because you can listen to absolutely everything going on around you, yet your voice cannot be heard. In fact, the box fits so tightly around your face and lips that you can’t speak, or make a noise. Although you can see everything going on around the box, the world outside is oblivious to what’s going on inside.
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Re: The Mind Readers

Unread postby MrAmsterdam » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:43 am

From the article
What Owen, Laureys and Schiff were proposing was a rethink of some of the patients who were considered vegetative. A few of them could even be classed as being fully conscious and locked-in. The establishment was doggedly opposed. “You cannot imagine the environment in the late 1990s,” says Schiff. “The hostility we encountered went well beyond simple scepticism.” Looking back, Laureys pauses and smiles thinly: “Medical doctors do not like to be told they are wrong.” Schiff, Laureys and Owen cut lonely and isolated figures at academic conferences, desperately trying to explain their findings to their peers, who remained unconvinced, even antagonistic. The trio’s ideas were condemned as a waste of time.


Then I looked into alternative controversial treatments like the following,

http://www.pemfindia.com/tms-worked-on-coma-patient-2/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcrani ... timulation

For me the article represents yet another example of how the specialists are full of assumptions.
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. -Nikola Tesla -1934
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Re: The Mind Readers

Unread postby Sparky » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:26 am

MrAmsterdam wrote:From the article
What Owen, Laureys and Schiff were proposing was a rethink of some of the patients who were considered vegetative. A few of them could even be classed as being fully conscious and locked-in. The establishment was doggedly opposed. “You cannot imagine the environment in the late 1990s,” says Schiff. “The hostility we encountered went well beyond simple scepticism.” Looking back, Laureys pauses and smiles thinly: “Medical doctors do not like to be told they are wrong.” Schiff, Laureys and Owen cut lonely and isolated figures at academic conferences, desperately trying to explain their findings to their peers, who remained unconvinced, even antagonistic. The trio’s ideas were condemned as a waste of time.


Then I looked into alternative controversial treatments like the following,

http://www.pemfindia.com/tms-worked-on-coma-patient-2/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcrani ... timulation

For me the article represents yet another example of how the specialists are full of assumptions.


Yes, I agree...and thank you for the links... ;)
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Re: The Mind Readers

Unread postby D_Archer » Thu May 01, 2014 2:14 am

I read the mind readers, very interesting, thank you Sparky.

I am always amazed at how stupid doctors generally are.

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Re: The Mind Readers

Unread postby Sparky » Thu May 01, 2014 2:51 pm

Thanks, Daniel...I was thinking that this locked in coma is worse than death... :|
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