Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

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Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:04 am

Dirac's Sea of Negitive Energy. In my opinion a must read, along with Collective Electrodynamics. Then take the journey foward to APM, The Electric Sky, The Electric Universe. This is very serious stuff. I have distributed it amoungs several threads last night, it deserves its own thread because of the powerful message contained within it and how it relates to the EU. Oddly enough I got it from a discussion on UFO technology....
We see that two incredibly bad choices
were made, both at about the same time,
both for the same bad reason: to save the
paradigm, to evade the increasing evidence
for the anathematized aether, to
keep some “experts” from being wrong
and looking foolish. The first bad choice
resulted in the truncation of Dirac’s
equation, and ultimately in the enormity
that is the Standard Model. The second
bad choice resulted in the enormity
that is the Big Bang.
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf
No matter how one studies and reviews the available material that was rejected, one comes to a EU in a powerful way. Tesla is written out of text. When they speak of Tesla on TV, they discredit wireless transmission of electricity with transverse wave analysis....that is funny considering it was longitudinal.
:?

Aether is a four letter word...
:o

You got to wonder, who is directing this charade? Why does UFO talk generate so much evidence in favour of the EU?
Why does National Security take on a dangerous form after Roswell? Why did the creation of the CIA fall two months after Rosewell? National Security Act of 1947 is an interesting piece of the puzzle. What are the chances the National Security Act being signed on July 26, 1947 by U.S. President Harry S. Truman into law, creating the Central Intelligence Agency, Department of Defense, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the National Security Council, only 18 odd days after the Roswell crash ? Are these two events related, more to the point was the National Security Act created to suppress the UFO truth and put this infomation in the hands of black op agencies?

What was Eisnehower speaking about when he discussed the dangers of the Industrial Military Complex and control of government and power in the free world? Would that have anything to do with National Security and who holds control of this possible technology and physics paradigm? Could this explain the dogma of "science" in this day and age?

Sorry I had to ask.
:oops:

Since this thread is about "negitive energy" I thought I would ask here....because talk of UFO, Government Security, Aether, Tesla, or the EU can cause a lot of negitive energy....
:D
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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:34 am

I do not know how many members read the link above. Now that I have, I have to consider the potential aspects of Dirac's theory of Negitive Energy and its role in the cosmos as a quantum system as described by Mead. This link seemed interesting and spoke to me today about the object of this thread. I encourage memberst to view the above link in its entirety and tell me what your impressions are.
Cern lab goes 'colder than space'

A vast physics experiment built in a tunnel below the French-Swiss border is fast becoming one of the coolest places in the Universe.

The Large Hadron Collider is entering the final stages of being lowered to a temperature of 1.9 Kelvin (-271C; -456F) - colder than deep space.

The LHC has thousands of magnets which will be maintained in this frigid condition using liquid helium.

The magnets are arranged in a ring that runs for 27km through the giant tunnel.

Once the LHC is operational, two particle beams - usually consisting of protons accelerated to high energies - will be fired down pipes running through the magnets.

These beams will then travel in opposite directions around the main ring at close to the speed of light.

At allotted points along the tunnel, the beams will cross paths, smashing into one another with cataclysmic force. Scientists hope to see new particles in the debris of these collisions, revealing fundamental new insights into the nature of the cosmos and how it came into being.

The most powerful physics experiment ever built, the LHC will re-create the conditions just after the Big Bang.

Currently, six out of the LHC's eight sectors are between 4.5 and 1.9 Kelvin, though all sectors of the machine have been down to 1.9 Kelvin at some stage over the last few months.

By comparison, the temperature in remote regions of outer space is about 2.7 Kelvin (-270C; -454F).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7512586.stm
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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by Divinity » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:27 pm

junglelord wrote:Dirac's Sea of Negitive Energy. In my opinion a must read, along with Collective Electrodynamics. Then take the journey foward to APM, The Electric Sky, The Electric Universe. This is very serious stuff. I have distributed it amoungs several threads last night, it deserves its own thread because of the powerful message contained within it and how it relates to the EU. Oddly enough I got it from a discussion on UFO technology....
We see that two incredibly bad choices
were made, both at about the same time,
both for the same bad reason: to save the
paradigm, to evade the increasing evidence
for the anathematized aether, to
keep some “experts” from being wrong
and looking foolish. The first bad choice
resulted in the truncation of Dirac’s
equation, and ultimately in the enormity
that is the Standard Model. The second
bad choice resulted in the enormity
that is the Big Bang.
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf
No matter how one studies and reviews the available material that was rejected, one comes to a EU in a powerful way. Tesla is written out of text. When they speak of Tesla on TV, they discredit wireless transmission of electricity with transverse wave analysis....that is funny considering it was longitudinal.
:?
Aether is a four letter word...
:o :D
Thanks, Junglelord. I found the part about Prof. Hotson very interesting. Attempting to read the complex physics described in the pdf doc., I failed dismally because as I see it, since 1932, every time one of these brilliant minds detected something it couldn't understand, it made up some fairy story to explain the phenomenon, which then led to infinite other fairy stories. So, if they got the 'bedrock' or foundation of a theory wrong, years and years of study/theory built on top of that would be nonsensical too. All this has managed to achieve is to put off anybody with an element of logic or anyone wishing to understand the nature of reality, from investigating further because the whole scientific field is a 'minefield' of nonsense. (I am not a complete Luddite, btw, as I found Carver Mead's work relatively easy to understand and it made a whole lot of sense, particularly when he's poking holes in existing quantum theory)!

So, just basing my observations on Prof. Hotson's discovery that the creation of the Electron and the Positron from a single Photon increased its energy by 16 times (plus my intuition that it is impossible to have a 'negative' sea of energy in an Aetheric/electrical sea of energy), here goes...I'm going to be the one who's brave enough to discuss these issues with you (hahahaha!):


Firstly, if a physicist has an inkling that we reside in a Steady State Universe which is entangled and coherent with Everything in it (Aetheric backwash of infinite, constantly flowing energy) why would he even ask the question:

"Where does all the Energy come from?" (i.e. on observing the 16 x increase).

How come, Junglelord, they're not asking: "Why do some structures hold/absorb/draw MORE Energy in than others?" (therein lies the mystery of sacred geometry and why certain structures fulfil certain functions).

And if they asked this question, wouldn't they then conclude that the pull/push tensegrity was an effect (or is actually the same as) an ON/OFF process....i.e. the structure, depending on the information being fed into it or the instruction it is carrying out, pulls in energy from the aetheric field, then stops, as if it were fitted with a 'Valve'. So, the very process of on/off (or +/-) (or 0 - 1) is creating the tensegrity pull/push which keeps the structure in shape and despite the fact that at very high superluminal speeds it doesn't look like it's a) moving or b) solid, but at light speed or lower, it IS (or we see that it is).

[So, whether it looks like a wave or a particle, a table or a set of squiggles, depends entirely on the speed the structure is oscillating. Our brains are currently wired to register light speed and below, but in truth, the brain detects much more than that. ]

But my point is, originally, I was going to ask you: "how do we get something out of NOTHING" (i.e. matter out of a non-material structure).?...I think I've answered that question: the Aether is always there, it's always energy, it feeds whatever 'comes in to be fed', it's up to that structure to instruct the GForce as to how MUCH or how LITTLE Energy it requires and it does this through transmitting instant information to the field via its shape. This tantamounts to the sacred geometry itself knowing what it needs and using its inherent 'valve' to switch on (absorb) or switch off (stop) the incoming energy.

So the question really is not where does all the energy come from? But what determines different shapes? The answer can only be 'the amount of energy/information' absorbed into the object.

This, assuming you agree that the Universe is "Steady State" and just its very existence creates the energy force for all within it - i.e. it's infinite, eternal and self-sustaining/repleneshing, manufacturing energy permanently.


Sorry if this is off topic but your article stimulated the above thoughts.
I would love your views on this, Junglelord and others, if possible.

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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:30 pm

I loved your post. Its clear that many things I have thought have proven to be wrong. Even some of my best hunches have gone the way of the dinosaur in the quest to understand the EU. I really apprciate your condor and intelligence.
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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by Divinity » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:48 pm

:oops: Thanks J/L. :D

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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by david barclay » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:18 pm

There is a reason for all this nonsense science and why Dirac has been given such a short shift. You are simply not supposed to know, because who knows where the truth could lead, perhaps towards some actual progress.

Dirac was the one who suggested that over time gravity was slowly diminishing, which of course it is. Yet he was taken to task over this and ridiculed.

How could there be a unified field without an aether? The aether unifies universe all by its self, it is the thread which ties it all together.

One of the most basic contentions of our modern science is light speed and the constancy of light speed from here to there and from there to here, however the whole idea is based on a linear evaluation of universe which requires the universe to exist in a static state. Fortunately the universe is hardly static and the dynamic nature of universe dictates that the constancy of light speed is a fraudulent idea.

I stand up and cheer for P.A.M. Dirac, bravo, bravo.

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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:54 am

Thanks for the reply. I really feel like this thread feel through the cracks. I was floored when I read this paper. How many actually read the entire two papers?
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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by david barclay » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:18 pm

Dirac is talking about positive and negative energy, but both are the same energy but presented as two different flavors.

The only distinction being that one is positive and one is negative.

And if there is one energy sustaining and perpetuating universe, the whole thing can be reduced to a single source.

What distinguishes one thing from another in terms of the various forms and functions involved should be nothing more than a differential in energy, whereby every aspect of universe can be viewed as a dynamic response.

And in a similar manner you could present each dynamic response as either a positive or a negative response.

But in that each response is described as either positive or negative, each response must also have a positive and negative balance.

The only difference between the positive and negative energy is the that the resulting dynamics are reversed in terms of opposite and opposing values.

My feeling about Dirac is that he was given the royal business, which does not speak well of his peers.

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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:29 pm

Indeed every good idea has been taken and used in secret, while publicly made ridicule of.
Its called dis-information.
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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:05 am

World renowned physicist challenged over free energy machines
An experimental nuclear physicist has written an Open Letter to world renowned physicist, Dr Michio Kaku, challenging his dismissal of non-conventional energy devices - more popularly known as “free energy” machines. In a Coast to Coast AM radio interview on April 18, 2009, Dr Kako dismissed free energy machines as impossible due to their violation of energy conservation laws. Dr Robert Koontz, a nuclear physicist who has worked in various government projects and held Top Secret classification, pointed out the fallacies in Dr Kako’s thinking. Dr Kaku, according to Dr Koontz, needs to reconsider the feasibility of non-conventional energy devices. Otherwise he may suffer the same fate as early scientific critics of the Wright Brothers - critics dismissed the idea of heavier-than-air flying machines as impossible.

Dr Koontz begins his May 15 Open Letter:

Recently, on the popular late-night radio program, "Coast to Coast AM," which reportedly has a listening audience of millions, you indicated that investors call you up daily and ask whether certain inventions will work. Characterizing those devices as "perpetual motion machines" you said they were impossible to make.

Dr Kaku’s dismissal is based on energy conservation laws that are based on the scientific belief that energy can only ever be converted from one state to another. This leads to the view that the amount of energy in the universe remains constant, and no energy is ever lost or created. The idea that a machine can be created which generates more energy than it consumes to run forever has been deemed to be scientifically impossible. The idea of perpetual motion machines has long been discredited and has been used as a kind of scientific slight against those proposing non-conventional energy devices. It is this rigid scientific viewpoint that Dr Koontz directly challenges and goes on to say:

Dr. Kaku: You appear to believe that the universe has 11 dimensions, many of which are supposed to be hidden. Why would that be true while creation of energy using negative mass electrons or using gauge transformations would be impossible? Could you be wrong, sir? Undoubtedly you think you are not wrong, but could you be wrong, sir? You might say to me that negative mass electrons have never been seen. But those many dimensions you believe in have never been seen either. And is it not true that we physicists for decades have used negative mass electrons in our theories in order to reach agreement with experiment?

Dr Koontz’s reference to negative mass electrons is one way in which he believes energy conservation laws can be maintained in an unconventional energy device. He goes on to cite the work of Nobel Prize winning physicists, Dr Paul Dirac, who was the first to introduce negative mass electrons.

When Paul Dirac, the Nobel prize-winning physicist was developing the first form of relativistic quantum mechanics he found it necessary to introduce the concept of negative mass electrons. This subsequently led Dirac to develop the idea that a hole in a sea of negative mass electrons corresponded to a positron, otherwise known as an antielectron. Some years later the positron was observed and Dirac won the Nobel prize.

Another way for an unconventional or “free energy” device to work is for it to use rotating electromagnetic fields using magnets, plasma, or other electrical conductors. This creates what is called a “torsion field” where energy is generated from the rotating objects. According to Dr Elizabeth Rauscher and Nassim Haramein from the Resonance Project, torsion fields power all known rotating objects in the universe from suns and galaxies, to atoms.

Other physicists point to a zero point energy field where a quantum flux creates virtually unlimited energy. Essentially, free or "zero point" energy comes out of the vacuum of space in a manner similar to a bottle of soda that is shaken and opened. This was first theorized by the Dutch physicist Dr Hendrik Casimir in 1948 and later experimentally confirmed. The Casimir Effect is now used in nanotechnology to power microcircuits.

If an unconventional energy device uses negative mass electrons, as Dr Koontz claims, then the energy conservation laws of physics may well be maintained. If “free energy” devices use rotating magnetic fields or zero point energy, there appears to be no way energy conservation laws can be maintained unless one considers energy moving between dimensions. Interestingly, Dr Kaku believes that 11 dimensions exist - some of which are obviously beyond human perception. If so, there are a number of ways in which the energy conservation laws of physics can be maintained across the “omniverse’ of 11 dimensions while considering the feasibility of unconventional energy devices. Perhaps we’ll find some answers if and when Dr Kaku responds to Dr Koontz’s challenge.
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu ... y-machines
Watch this video...and remember that Aether is a rotating magnetic field.
In my opinion this device is a variant and the successor to the "Magnetstromapparat" and the "Stromerzeuger" (= Magnet Current Apparatus / Electricity Generator; see the Coler Report).
It is NOT dependent on earths magnetic field, can operate everywhere, even in space or on the moon, without fuel and without moving parts. As the magnetic field is rotating in itself, the power can be increased considerably by increasing the "rotating" frequency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvLuQOKO ... r_embedded
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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by KickLaBuka » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:53 am

Reactionary energy. I heard a great aristotle quote: "It is the mark of an educated mind that can entertain a thought without accepting it."

Imagine your brain like this--or don't--but I imagine brains like this. Sensory input goes to your limbic brain first. This is where your reactions are; your feelings. At that point there is a choice. A hot stove reaction goes within 1/100 of a second to your spinal cord, to your muscular system, and you retract your hand before you even think about it. When your limbic brain has the time to ponder, it sends the input (smell, taste, sight, ...) to your cerebral cortex to do the logic. Then it goes back to your limbic brain, and out your keystrokes.

Just doing some learning. Thanks O!

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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:54 pm

Thats totally off topic, but your correct about the hot stove thingy. That is a cord level response. It involves the flexor withdrawal reflex. Same as a knee extensor reflex, just applied via a sudden shortening with a rubber hammer, instead of a hot stove, but again it is a cord level test, indicitive of no response needed or required from higher centers, like the limbic system, just so you know....your doing well grasshopper.
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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:02 pm

Matter Anti-Matter Asymmetry, Phase Conjugation for Fermions, New Energy Technology,
and Re-Interpretation of TGD Inspired Cosmology
http://tgd.wippiespace.com/public_html/ ... wcosmo.pdf
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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by redeye » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:31 am

Imagine your brain like this--or don't--but I imagine brains like this...
There's some good stuff on this thread.

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Re: Dirac's Sea of Negative Energy

Post by junglelord » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:35 am

Phase Conjugation is the main driving priniciple behind the egg and pinecone shape. The charge created by these shapes is a phase conjugate tuning system. The ability to draw matter from the vacuum is via phase conjugation and the resulting scalar soliton field draws the negitive zp photon into existance. This becomes a real electron and you have mass from the aether.
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