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Re: what is charge?

Unread postby Sithri » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:46 pm

crawler wrote:The answer to what is charge will of course involve aether.
I have learnt a lot by reading papers by J G Williamson.
And papers by Conrad Ranzan (DSSU).
And Ivor Catt (papers & youtube).

I have myself posited that electric-magnetic-charge fields are made of photaenos which are a part of every photon. Photons are made of (1) a central helix, & (2) lots of photaenos (tentacles that emanate from the helix). The helix propagates at c along the axis, & the propagation involves the annihilation of aether. Aether is some sort of sub-quantum fluid, sub-quantum because it has no mass or energy (at least no ordinary energy). Photaenos propagate at praps 5c outwards from the helix (Gasser), & are formed by a vibration or vortex in the aether (& possibly annihilation).

Why 5c? And why do they have to be sub-quantum to have no mass or energy? Why not just say its a quantum ether that has no mass or energy? It would make no sense that a photon relies upon creation and annihilation because it is a continuum of oscillating electric and magnetic fields. if I were to define this, I would say one divided by the square root of both permeability times permittivity. Thus the vacuum itself is defining the speed of light, which isn't a vacuum but a quantum ether.
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Re: what is charge?

Unread postby crawler » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:40 pm

Sithri wrote:
crawler wrote:The answer to what is charge will of course involve aether.
I have learnt a lot by reading papers by J G Williamson.
And papers by Conrad Ranzan (DSSU).
And Ivor Catt (papers & youtube).

I have myself posited that electric-magnetic-charge fields are made of photaenos which are a part of every photon. Photons are made of (1) a central helix, & (2) lots of photaenos (tentacles that emanate from the helix). The helix propagates at c along the axis, & the propagation involves the annihilation of aether. Aether is some sort of sub-quantum fluid, sub-quantum because it has no mass or energy (at least no ordinary energy). Photaenos propagate at praps 5c outwards from the helix (Gasser), & are formed by a vibration or vortex in the aether (& possibly annihilation).

Why 5c? And why do they have to be sub-quantum to have no mass or energy? Why not just say its a quantum ether that has no mass or energy? It would make no sense that a photon relies upon creation and annihilation because it is a continuum of oscillating electric and magnetic fields. if I were to define this, I would say one divided by the square root of both permeability times permittivity. Thus the vacuum itself is defining the speed of light, which isn't a vacuum but a quantum ether.
Re a speed of 5c for em radiation, Gasser measured 5c in the nearfield at least. Anyone can define subquantum anyway they like, but it has to make sense. Everything that we feel & see is quantum.
U say that a photon is a continuum of em fields. I say that a photon is discrete, not a continuum. I say that em fields are made by a half of a photon, the photaeno half.
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Re: what is charge?

Unread postby webolife » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:42 am

Hey Crawler
Your "photeano half" amuses me. Consider a few observations/assertions:
First, yes a light action is discrete and finite. Thus it has "sides"... it's peripherals are symmetric, so one " half"cannot be distinguished from the "other". However, it might be described as having an inner and outer side, in which I might suggest the outer side is the em field you are picturing. What do you think of that?
To keep this on thread, I will remind that charge is the fundamental " holding" vector of electricity, as mass is for gravitation, both directed toward field centroid. Likewise the "outside" of light action is radiated/vectored toward centroid, rather than stuff being emanated from the centroid, ie. the centroid is a sink for light, electricity, and gravitation.
This is the piece that is obscured from the view of modern unifiers. IMHO 8-)
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Re: what is charge?

Unread postby crawler » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:24 pm

webolife wrote:Hey Crawler
Your "photeano half" amuses me. Consider a few observations/assertions:
First, yes a light action is discrete and finite. Thus it has "sides"... it's peripherals are symmetric, so one " half"cannot be distinguished from the "other". However, it might be described as having an inner and outer side, in which I might suggest the outer side is the em field you are picturing. What do you think of that?
To keep this on thread, I will remind that charge is the fundamental " holding" vector of electricity, as mass is for gravitation, both directed toward field centroid. Likewise the "outside" of light action is radiated/vectored toward centroid, rather than stuff being emanated from the centroid, ie. the centroid is a sink for light, electricity, and gravitation.
This is the piece that is obscured from the view of modern unifiers. IMHO 8-)
I havnt read all of the replys. But i think that charge is primary. It is some kind of excitation of the aether. That excitation is the excitation that emanates from the central helical part of a photon, i call it the photaeno part. Electrons quarks etc are confined photons, hencely u have photaenos emanating from electrons quarks etc.
The movement(s) of electrons (& possibly protons)(quarks), ie charge, gives us electro fields & magnetic fields.
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