Multiverse or blind alley?

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Multiverse or blind alley?

Post by longcircuit » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:42 pm

And you think you have problems!

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2011/12/0083720

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Re: Multiverse or blind alley?

Post by Goldminer » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:27 am

longcircuit wrote:And you think you have problems!

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2011/12/0083720

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from your link wrote:“We now find ourselves at a historic fork in the road we travel to understand the laws of nature. If the multiverse idea is correct, the style of fundamental physics will be radically changed.”
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Re: Multiverse or blind alley?

Post by StevenJay » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:11 am

It is perhaps impossible to say how far apart the different universes may be, or whether they exist simultaneously in time. Some may have stars and galaxies like ours. Some may not. Some may be finite in size. Some may be infinite.
So, they're seriously entertaining notions of multiple infinities?? Oh, wait - I forgot about all those black holes milling about everywhere. :?

This article doesn't indicate a fork in the road but rather, that the bridge ahead is out. :roll:
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Re: Multiverse or blind alley?

Post by 303vegas » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:47 am

they just make this stuff up as they go along don't they? if our universe is truly infinite then its all we've got/need. i'm happy with that.

i remember a programme on the telly once talking about a theory where every decision splits off into the various yes/no versions every time a choice is made. i think that has more to do with the inventor's uncertainty about their own decisions. if you make a bad decision in this universe it's ok 'cos somewhere there's a version of you that got it right.

this seens to be a similar thing in that your can't be wrong because there's an alternative universe where you're bang-on. maybe in one of these other universes i picked the right numbers for the lotto but it makes knack-all difference to this 'me.'
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Re: Multiverse or blind alley?

Post by Sparky » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:28 am

If the multiverse idea is correct, the style of fundamental physics will be radically changed.”
Not really, both are fantasy based math. Fix the basic math and use logic, and the "style" will be more correct.

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Re: Multiverse or blind alley?

Post by D_Archer » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:22 am

Multiverse > the aggregate of all existing matter, of which the universe is but a tiny fragment.

Eeh, but the concept universe is > the aggregate of all existing matter, energy, and space

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