Big Bang, where is it?

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Re: Big Bang, where is it?

Post by davesmith_au » Fri May 20, 2011 9:43 am

Quite simply, we don't know, nor do we pretend to. In the same way as big bangers don't know where the nothing came from which banged (or the something, depending on the breed of big banger), or why it banged. On that score, we're on a level playing field.

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Re: Big Bang, where is it?

Post by Sparky » Fri May 20, 2011 12:01 pm

dugiewugie wrote:If you will excuse me (i am new to this), where, according to this theory did all the electricity
come from?
davesmith_au wrote:Quite simply, we don't know, nor do we pretend to. In the same way as big bangers don't know where the nothing came from which banged (or the something, depending on the breed of big banger), or why it banged. On that score, we're on a level playing field.


lol...Dave is correct!...We don't know where it came from, nor do we need to know..Much as you don't know where the electricity comes from, if you have electricity inside your home. Just flip the switch and the darn light comes on! :D

Magnetic fields have been mapped in space, and where you have magnetic fields you either have huge permanent magnets floating around in space or an electrical current through the plasma that makes up 99% of the known universe. :D
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Re: Big Bang, where is it?

Post by mharratsc » Sun May 22, 2011 2:42 pm

There was a paper that was linked to in a post by Solrey, wherein the authors discussed out a free-floating dusty plasma could begin to accumulate a charge by the motion of constituent particles. This motion could be induced by different forces- gravity, light pressure perhaps, or possibly even photon-induced charge separation (if it is determined that the same charge separation we see induced in water by light could also occur in dusty plasmas).

In any event, an electrostatic charge in two nearby clouds, which occured at a dissimilar rate might thereby induce an electrodynamic event of the two clouds attempting to equalize charge with one another.

As I recall- that was a peer-reviewed paper, also.

I apologize that I'm not very good at mining the forums for old information... I find myself unable to find that old link. :\
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Re: Big Bang, where is it?

Post by swwilcox » Mon May 23, 2011 2:36 am

mharratsc wrote:There was a paper that was linked to in a post by Solrey, wherein the authors discussed out a free-floating dusty plasma could begin to accumulate a charge by the motion of constituent particles. This motion could be induced by different forces- gravity.... :\
Intriguing. In my Bards of Fantasia DVD-program for high school reform, I briefly "illustrate" membrane-theory (for open discussion, which would welcome plasma-theory) with an original twist along those lines.
If "our" universe is bounded by a membrane which was empty until rubbed against by a nearby membrane (a rare, multi-billion year event), we'd expect remnants of this "bang" to be nearer the 'brane wall which was rubbed. Since we don't see that, 'brane-theory is held inferior to the centralized, uniform bang-theory.
BUT SUPPOSE the 'brane event didn't "uniformly explode...immediately"??? Suppose the 'brane event launched a plasma-ball or similar exotic entity, causing a friction-build that didn't reach critical mass until the plasma-ball arrived exactly (or close to) the MEMBRANE CENTER??? aha!

The above-outline solves all quandaries--even supports the plasma-content vs. dark matter-content idea--except irksome infinite-regress questions (Carl Sagan should've known better as he ambushed millions of PBS viewers with such: ape-ing God as a foolish bubble-blower while ignoring the elegant model of fractal-celestial-infinity, or even Aristotle's flawless deductions of a fifth, spiritual "force" that orbits both the macro and micro boundaries of the universe/multiverse: a humanoid intelligence in a half natural, half supernatural space-city--breathtaking...) like where'd the 'branes come from? how numerous are they? what's beyond them? (why can't we have cake for dinner? :cry:) etc. But that's currently beyond the responsibility of observable science: so I just say one handful of observable puzzles at a time! lol. Others would be even less polite and chide us not to "raid" the mind of God, but rather await modest discoveries over time (Carl got that one right for sure in Contact).
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