Nature of astrophysics - index

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Nature of astrophysics - index

Post by Nereid » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:44 am

From the first of these:
Nereid wrote:This is the first of a series of threads I hope to post, on specific aspects of the nature of physics and astronomy ('physics and astronomy' is too long for a thread title, so I shortened it to 'astrophysics').

My motivation for these comes from some of the discussions I've been engaged in, here in this Thunderbolts Forum; specifically, it seems to me that I have a different - possibly quite radically different - view of things like the relationship between experiment and theory (in physics and astronomy), the relationship between observation and theory (ditto), and the relationship between experiment and observation (ditto). Here are two threads containing examples: TPOD 19 OCT 2010, Relativity and Cosmology in Crisis—Again!.

Given the clearly stated scope of this forum, I'm also interested in what "electromagnetism" is, the extent to which it is (or should be) special (within physics and astronomy)
Nature of astrophysics (I) - between theory and observation

Nature of astrophysics (II) - science and scientists

Nature of astrophysics (3) - astronomy and reality

Nature of astrophysics (4) - physics and reality

Nature of astrophysics (5) - astronomy, quantitative only?

Nature of astrophysics (6) - physics is quantitative

Nature of astrophysics (7) - getting to publication

I've two more planned, both triggered by comments by Thunderbolts Forum members. One will be on foundations, and the other on empiricism, extrapolation, scaling etc (the actual titles will likely be different).

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Re: Nature of astrophysics - index

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Re: Nature of astrophysics - index

Post by MrAmsterdam » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:19 am

Nereid,

I want to turn everything upside down. I want to make a prediction based on the EU/Plasma theory.
Could you help me with this? You could give some good criticism where that prediction would be weak in logical or scientific or astrophysical terms. Shall I start a new post explaining my prediction? I do realise that there are many factors to look at and it is not an easy exercise.
What I'm hoping for is that we would see this 'clash of views' in action when trying to make such a prediction as rigid as possible.

Are you in for it?
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. -Nikola Tesla -1934

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Re: Nature of astrophysics - index

Post by Nereid » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:56 pm

Nature of astrophysics (9) - Empiricism, Extrapolation, Etc

Challenges to Nereid

The second one is, strictly speaking, not part of the Nature of Astrophysics series; however, the two challenges (so far) are very closely related to them.

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Post by Aristarchus » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:29 pm

Nereid,

Wow. Number nine, no less. If I was a betting man, I would place money on number ten in the offering. Keep this up, and you'll have an entire subjet category on the Board Index. However, I believe, MrAmsterdam was proposing that he would start another topic on another thread and not a new one from you.
MrAmsterdam wrote:Shall I start a new post explaining my prediction?
An object is cut off from its name, habits, associations. Detached, it becomes only the thing, in and of itself. When this disintegration into pure existence is at last achieved, the object is free to become endlessly anything. ~ Jim Morrison

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Re: Nature of astrophysics - index

Post by Nereid » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:09 am

Aristarchus wrote:Nereid,

Wow. Number nine, no less. If I was a betting man, I would place money on number ten in the offering.
Well, you'd lose :P

I have no plans for any more; however, if an aspect arises, from my reading or from Thunderbolts Forum members' own posts, I'll consider adding at least one.
However, I believe, MrAmsterdam was proposing that he would start another topic on another thread and not a new one from you.
MrAmsterdam wrote:Shall I start a new post explaining my prediction?
That may well be so; I'll leave it to him to comment, hopefully in the Challenges to Nereid thread. By the way, that thread too is intended to be just an index, or pointer, thread; the content of my responses to the challenges will be in different threads, possibly in a different section of the forum.

Also, once I've finished responding to others' posts in the various Nature of Astrophysics threads, I intend to concentrate on other threads, particularly in the Electric Universe section.

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Re: Nature of astrophysics - index

Post by Goldminer » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:27 am

Nereid wrote:By the way, that thread too is intended to be just an index, or pointer, thread; the content of my responses to the challenges will be in different threads, possibly in a different section of the forum.
So it will be up to the rest of Thunderbolt Forum members to track your responses. Too bad there is no way to cross-link your responses so that they don't get lost in a corner of the forum. Do you intend to link your responses to the other threads?
Nereid wrote:Also, once I've finished responding to others' posts in the various Nature of Astrophysics threads, I intend to concentrate on other threads, particularly in the Electric Universe section.
You are quite optimistic that you will "finish responding to others' posts in the various Nature of Astrophysics threads." I am quite confident that other Thunderbolt Forum members will not let you rest. It is a foregone conclusion that you will be challenged. That is what forums are for. An unanswered challenge is tacit acquiesce that the challenge stands. (Of course reality will go on being real, regardless of anything written on any forum.)
I sense a disturbance in the farce.

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