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Nitai
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by Nitai » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:17 am
Here is Never A Straight Answer (NASA)'s latest and greatest find.
Nov. 23, 2010: The next time you thrill at the sight of a comet blazing across the night sky, consider this: it's a stolen pleasure. You're enjoying the spectacle at the expense of a distant star.
Sophisticated computer simulations run by researchers at the Southwest Research Institute (SWRI) have exposed the crime.
"If the results are right, our Sun snatched comets from neighboring stars' back yards," says SWRI scientist Hal Levison. And he believes this kind of thievery accounts for most of the comets in the Oort Cloud at the edge of our solar system.
"We know that stars form in clusters. The Sun was born within a huge community of other stars that formed in the same gas cloud. In that birth cluster, the stars were close enough together to pull comets away from each other via gravity. It's like neighborhood children playing in each others' back yards. It's hard to imagine it not happening."
According to this "thief" model, comets accompanied the nearest star when the birth cluster blew apart. The Sun made off with quite a treasure – the Oort Cloud, which was swarming with comets from all over the "neighborhood."
I love little SELF CONFESSIONAL Gems like this.
The standard model of comet production asserts that our Sun came by these comets honestly.
"That model says the comets are dregs of our own solar system's planetary formation and that our planets gravitationally booted them to huge distances, populating the cloud. But we believe this kind of scenario happened in all the solar systems before the birth cluster dispersed."
Otherwise, says Levison, the numbers just don't add up.
"The standard model can't produce anywhere near the number of comets we see [falling in from the Oort Cloud]. The Sun's sibling stars had to have contributed some comets to the mix."

"If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.” - Halton Arp.
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Grits
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by Grits » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:33 am
Nitai wrote:"The standard model can't produce anywhere near the number of comets we see [falling in from the Oort Cloud]. The Sun's sibling stars had to have contributed some comets to the mix."
Yet more evidence that the "standard model" is wrong. I don't like the conclusion that the "extra" matter in those comets necessarily came from the sun's "neighbors". They could have just as easily been ejected from planets in the solar system or the sun itself.
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by Siggy_G » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:59 pm
Grits wrote:Yet more evidence that the "standard model" is wrong.
Interesting read, but as a general comment, I want to underline that recognizing unpredicted or failing aspects of the standard model is not neccesarily confirming or strengthening the Electric Universe theory. Partly because it would be the automatic response from a standard model proponent and partly because it is logically true. It may however contribute to reveal that the current consensus is on frail grounds (which is the correct topic of this board).
Grits wrote:I don't like the conclusion that the "extra" matter in those comets necessarily came from the sun's "neighbors". They could have just as easily been ejected from planets in the solar system or the sun itself.
True. It also indicates previous turbolence, interactions or re-arrangement within a previous system (i.e. previous harmonic paths have been distorted and causes future collisions). This is something that may be taken to support the scenarios described by Talbott.
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by bdpaoo » Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:22 am
Interesting read, but as a general comment, I want to underline that recognizing unpredicted or failing aspects of the standard model is not neccesarily confirming or strengthening the Electric Universe theory.

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