Has science taken a wrong turn? If so, what corrections are needed? Chronicles of scientific misbehavior. The role of heretic-pioneers and forbidden questions in the sciences. Is peer review working? The perverse "consensus of leading scientists." Good public relations versus good science.
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MrAmsterdam
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by MrAmsterdam » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:21 pm
Sorry, but both you and professor Hawking need a good cup of empiricism.
To illustrate my point, please disprove the following theory. - A three headed dragon created the universe by coffing gravity and fire a couple of billion years ago-.
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Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. -Nikola Tesla -1934
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kiwi
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by kiwi » Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:41 pm
To illustrate my point, please disprove the following theory. - A three headed dragon created the universe by coffing gravity and fire a couple of billion years ago-.
I have a piece of magic string that keeps 3 headed dragons away ... try and find a report sighting 3 headed dragons around our neighbourhood! ... ipso-facto ... I call it my "string-theory"
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StevenJay
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by StevenJay » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:54 am
kiwi wrote:I have a piece of magic string that keeps 3 headed dragons away ... try and find a report sighting 3 headed dragons around our neighbourhood! ... ipso-facto ... I call it my "string-theory"
I call it "mental-floss."
It's all about perception.
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Birkeland
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by Birkeland » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:25 am
cherokeeroots wrote:...he is demonstrating that pure BS can be created out of nothing.
Indeed he is
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The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see" -
Ayn Rand
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MrAmsterdam
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by MrAmsterdam » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:47 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc6vjFcxvKc
Professor Jon Butterworth says it all at 05:30.
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. -Nikola Tesla -1934
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kiwi
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by kiwi » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:36 am
StevenJay wrote:kiwi wrote:I have a piece of magic string that keeps 3 headed dragons away ... try and find a report sighting 3 headed dragons around our neighbourhood! ... ipso-facto ... I call it my "string-theory"
I call it "mental-floss."
as long as no-one call's it "magnetic-rope" .... right nasa?
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audrey
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by audrey » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:35 am
I thought you needed a mass for gravity to exist????
How can gravity exist if there is none?
First there was nothing and gravity????
Then bigbang et voila universe? Can gravity explode?
How can they print such BS
They are blatantly fooling the mass not scientists, they should know better or what?
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mharratsc
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by mharratsc » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:55 pm
What it proves is that the 'Masses' don't give a whit about the Universe beyond who's in the lead for the next <Nation-of-choice> Idol competition and their fave reality TV show (which are usually about as realistic as mainstream cosmology is)... >.<
They just don't care :\
Mike H.
"I have no fear to shout out my ignorance and let the Wise correct me, for every instance of such narrows the gulf between them and me." -- Michael A. Harrington
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audrey
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by audrey » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:25 am
mharratsc wrote:What it proves is that the 'Masses' don't give a whit about the Universe beyond who's in the lead for the next <Nation-of-choice> Idol competition and their fave reality TV show (which are usually about as realistic as mainstream cosmology is)... >.<
They just don't care :\
Yes this is so true sadly, many times I tried to engage in a formal discussion about EU or plant perception(I feel awe when I contemplate those subjects) with my entourage, and the responses I normaly get are :
So what?
Are you scientist now?(I am far from one
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Did you see that new bag at Gucci?
I really need to change friends...
So strange in their presences I feel like I am loosing the overwhelming feeling of wonderment I normally feel when I ponder about those subjects, like it feel pointless, but once I am alone my puzzled interest is back
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mharratsc
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by mharratsc » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:41 am
Hang in there, Audrey- one day we can hope this stuff will finally make its way into popular media.. "The Great Astronomy Cover-Up Scandal" would be a nice title! That would get
everyone talking about it, and we'd be able to say "Oh yeah, I've know about this for
years, you know..." and all of your friends will be totally impressed with how current and informed you are!
Mike H.
"I have no fear to shout out my ignorance and let the Wise correct me, for every instance of such narrows the gulf between them and me." -- Michael A. Harrington
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StevenJay
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by StevenJay » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:58 am
mharratsc wrote:one day we can hope this stuff will finally make its way into popular media..
Oh, no - please, NO! "Popular media," which panders to the lowest common denominator, and "this stuff" simply don't jive.
I mean, can you imagine how dumbed-down it would have to be to even get their attention?
cartoon show host in goth clown suit leaning right out of the wall-mounted 3D plasma screen and into the room - arms outstretched: "Hey, boys and girls, guess what? Wow - did you know that the entire universe is driven, primarily, by the electrical force?!!"
boys and girls (half brain-dead from a life of ritalin-boosted TV/twitter): 
collective *YAWN* then,
"This sucks. Anybody wanna go to the mall?"It's all about perception.
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