I am going to disagree with Steven on that one.
I loved Kaluz Klein since around 1998 or 2000 at the latest.
5-D space does not invent dimensions. Rather 4-D space does not qualify them all.
To have forces and fields magically appear in 4-D space is fantasy StevenO.
Forces and fields are a functional product of 5-D space structure, they are a magically appearing product in 4-D!
Even you Steven cannot tell me why they exist in 4-D, Collective Electrodynamics cannot do this, nor can anyone with 4-D because it is incomplete.
How therefore can you not entertain a 5-D model that produces them logically as a functional product of a dimensional quantum structure that is only explained in 5-D?
Unless you believe in magic?> 4-D with magically appearing forces and fields is too much magic for me.
If one reviews the work of APM we see two examples of 5-D explained.
3 Length and 2 Frequency *spatial-temporal*
This little revision of the standard 4-D space-time, creates space-resonance at the quantum scale with distributed frequency. You of all people Steven should see the importance of having a quantum resonance as a quantum constant. You work and I did work in resonance, it is therefore a fundamental property of the universe and APM explains this, 4-D does not.
If one reviews the spatial-temporal view of 5-D, 3 Length and 2 Frequency, we still have no reason for forces and fields and particles, merely a good explanation of resonance as fundamental.
But when we look at the characteristics of 5-D as Dave puts it we see the quantum structural and quantum constants as the basis for all functions. I am also surprised that someone with your excellerated understanding of the quantum world does not see the need for quantum constants.....that truly surprises me StevenO.
1 Quantum Length (Compton Wavelength)
2 Quantum Frequency (quantum velocity / Quantum Length)
3 Quantum Mass (Mass of electron, which is a function of phi)
4 Quantum Charge (distributed charge, therefore it is a squared product with two kinds of charge, ES, EM)
5 Quantum Spherical Constant (4pi X 4pi)
These five dimensional structural quantum constructs produce logically the forces, the fields, the particles with no hocus pocus, no wishfull thinking, no dogma....4-D is incomplete and is foolishness. 5-D is sensible, logical, explainable, reasonable and produces the fields, forces and particles as a natural function of the quantum constants and the structure they have inherit in them.
PS
Two elemental charges is balanced, one is not. If I am correct, then two distributed charges is a double layer construct, and like I said all double layers make a spiral vortex. Aether models are for the most part a structural construct of the spiral vortex. This is the archetype structure in the universe, spiral galaxy, and the branching network is the second archetype form, which we see in the galactic web, both of these archetype forms are seen in superconductor thread by StefanR. APM makes us see why this is. due to the quantum structure and quantum constants.
Since you deal in quantum and with large quantum devices of classical mechanics size, this should interest you too no end....or are you happy to just have them magically appear in your 4-D space? We have the technology to create these things which does something to our ego, but although we construct them, our 4-D space theory does not support it, rather we just accept it magically appearing and we are glad we can manipulate it. This is not good enough for me. Please remember StevenO, that Collective Electrodynamics is not a finished product, and it is not mutally exclusive to APM, they are mutally inclusive.
Nice to see you shot the word aether out there. I think thats a first for you. You tend to never agree in a Aether.
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