What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Influx » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:38 pm

The sun is a giant anode discharge!? If that is so, all celestial objects, pick up that charge and based on their composition, capacitance, inductance and resistance to this charge seek equilibrium. The earth has a electric field, and a magnetic field, two simple components necessary to create an oscillator circuit. Combine this with massive amounts of charge present in space, well, the solar system might simple be an electrostatic motor. The sun being the stator and the planets rotors. The rotors electrical composition dictates were and how it behaves, that is, how much charge it picks up from the sun, how it is linked to the sun, and the electrical nature of the rotor determine where it will orbit. There might not even be the classical gravity at all. As Emmanuel Velicovsky was saying all along. The planets rotation might be the torque resulting from the planets interaction with the electric properties of surrounding space. Or the planets might be simple inducing that rotation by it self onto itself via the hall effect. The hall effect needs two things present, magnetic and an electric field at right angle to each other. The hall effect usually produces motion in a straight line, but earths both fields are spherical, so instead there might be torque! Plus don't forget the em oscillation that is a resultant of the magnetic and electric fields.
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Influx » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:24 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2_wUDBl ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNBVDCeECg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI6S5CS- ... re=related

Combine all of these in to one, the suns charged 3d heliosphere, as the liquid in the cup. VID, # 3. The orbits of planets as charged particles in the sun electromagnetic, electrostatic field. VID, #1. And the planets rotation as the Tesla egg. VID, # 2. And we know??? how to build a solar system? VID, #4?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hkuHTn04tY
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by webolife » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:53 pm

Not sure if you intended this, Influx, but your videos offer some nice propositional evidence for a finite universe.
The "forms" within the liquid, eg., are "images" of the "universal" field "boundary" conditions.
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Influx » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:49 pm

I was thinking more along the lines that perhaps the forms in the dish, lows and highs. Are the energy densities, where different planets might be found. That is, like points of equilibrium, the dish might be a simple representation of a 2d slice of a 3d heliosphere. The dish boundary might in fact be the heliopause. The energy is simple bouncing around inside the heliosphere setting up standing waves between the sun and the heliopause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliopause#Heliopause

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Helio ... iagram.png

The planets, then naturally, based on their of harmonic , resonance and size, find the the proper low density ares of the standing waves, and roll around in the "grooves" like the needle on a LP record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18BL7MKjtZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFOt-oOUzJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S7-PDF6Vzc

Remember, the videos show a single 2d standing waves, but in a solar system inside the helioshere, they are 3d and cover the entire spectrum! Meaning the planets would be confined to a certain standing waves, to each his own. Jupiter, rides on and is attached to a huge ( I mean frequency and wavelength) standing wave, mars to a small one, the moon to the earths wave and so on.

Here are some vids, of standing waves confining clouds to a particular location or an area. This might be why planets stay in their orbits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXnkzeCU3bE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ0YsFPW ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7MOHBVU42c

Remember, it all 3d. Em, waves do not look like this>>>http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/project ... quency.gif

But, like this >>>http://www.efieldsolutions.com/Pics/gen ... t_far2.jpg

http://www.efieldsolutions.com/Pics/gen ... t_far1.jpg

https://www.cst.com/CMS/images/article382/figure04.png

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by flyingcloud » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:12 pm

sure looks a lot like a human brain

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by junglelord » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:01 pm

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Influx » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:26 pm

flyingcloud wrote: sure looks a lot like a human brain
My point was that, em waves are not strings, or "threads", but are more like the ocean, even though water is incompressible, it is still able to transmit sound waves. Perhaps the "nothings" is such a fluid? The electromagnetic waves would be like sound waves in the ocean in this fluid?
junglelord wrote:Sure looks a lot like 4pi^2
Huh, I am not a scientist :D. Most of my thinking is done visually. Everything I think about, I see in my minds eye in 3D. So I suck at math.
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by junglelord » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:54 pm

Curved Constants, its better known as a donut...or a toroid
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by GaryN » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:02 pm

Influx posted:
The planets, then naturally, based on their of harmonic , resonance and size, find the the proper low density ares of the standing waves, and roll around in the "grooves" like the needle on a LP record.
This would mean that the mass of the planets would be nothing like what we are told. For some reason, I'm not suprised.
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Influx » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:51 pm

GaryN wrote: This would mean that the mass of the planets would be nothing like what we are told. For some reason, I'm not suprised.
I am not quite there yet, but I think mass, inertia and momentum might be something like the back emf that rotor experiences in a generator. Expect the rotors would be mass, atoms and matter in equilibrium with the surrounding electrical environment, when matter is moved that equilibrium is destroyed. The disturbance of that electrical equilibrium is what we feel as inertia and momentum. Like electricity seeks the path of low resistance, than all matter must seek equilibrium in its electrical environment. This "seeking" of equilibrium effect, by matter, is mass, inertia and momentum.
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Peron » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:32 am

Lets say that gravity is electrical then wouldn't we have massive distortion in our power grids. Even in our radio and wireless signals?

Or am I wrong?

Also, Does it matter on the planets size. Or could a small planet produce, more gravity than Jupiter?

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by webolife » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:14 pm

The mass of the planets may be similar, but not equal to what we have been told.
If I can figure out a way to reproduce it I will show a table from my mentor R.A.Smith showing the masses of the planets as a function of their semi-major axes, and interestingly [though produced in the 60's/70's] predicts about a 3XPluto total mass for objects in the Kuiper belt. The answers agree well but not exactly with the Newtonian gravitation results.
Remember, even for Newton, gravity isn't necessarily produced by objects, but a relationship between them. In my model, gravity comes from the field, and produces matter/mass, not the other way around. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not equating mass and matter here). In the EU gravity is a residual effect of cumulative electrical vectors. That could work fine for me.
But I have the same problem/question regarding the interaction of the electrogravitic field and radio/tv. It seems also to me that the gravitic field is more static than would be the case if it is merely residual from what I perceive as a more dynamic electrical archfield. Any EU experts want to try this one?
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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Peron » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:36 pm

I have another question, how do planets have moons, and how can humans put artificial satellites in orbit?

:) :) Other than that it's a great theory.

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Re: What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

Post by Influx » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:22 am

Peron wrote:I have another question, how do planets have moons, and how can humans put artificial satellites in orbit?
:shock: :? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Peron wrote:Lets say that gravity is electrical then wouldn't we have massive distortion in our power grids. Even in our radio and wireless signals?
Trying to detect radio waves from a van de graf generator would be like painting with water. Useless. While mainstream science claims there is only one spectrum, the electromagnetic waves, Tesla said there might be as many as six different kinds of spectrum's out "there".
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