What is gravity, the electric and magnetic fields?

[kevin]

Keeha,
Quarter sawn Oak,
I have some pieces of this which I have marked out on it to show its specific refractive consequence on the field structure it induces, basically the celluler structure of the oak sheet induces pathways that the aether is induced to follow.
I can demonstrate that by someone holding the oak piece behind a wall, whatever way the oak piece is aligned , I will show the field direction via my dowsing rods, that plonker randi would run a mile from Me.
You couldn't have spoken any truer words in your life when you said another dimension was available, that is exactly what the geometry of the resonant cavities in the oak provide, hence the oak was worshipped.

As above, so below,
The geometry of the stars is mirrored on the surface of each sphere, relative to the precise point where the observer is sited, not only is the geometry mirrored, but the harmonic wave fronts are as well, the geometry is the carrier system for the flowing waves to travel upon, and it is via spirals.
I have heard all of this by been sited on a megalith at precise alignment, my right brain KNEW what it was hearing, universe where we come from, it said.
The so called burial chambers or dolmen etc are resonant accumulators ala Wilhelm reich, electrically covered with alternate layers of organic and inorganic, utilised by those who KNEW the electric universe, We simply need to remember.
The gravity is a consequence of this, as is the magnetism, and light .imho.
kevin

[Peron]

if something is not yet found, it does not mean it does not exist

Science isn't conducted by searching some mystery particle that might exist.
Science is the study of things we see, hear, taste, and feel.

You can't predict what is out there and go searching for it.

Anyway, here's a question.

Is there gravity at the cellular level, or even the atomic level, or sub-atomic?

If there is then gravity is a by product of mass.

[Grey Cloud]

Hi Peron (or should that be 'viva'?) and welcome aboard.
You wrote:

Is there gravity at the cellular level, or even the atomic level, or sub-atomic?
If there is then gravity is a by product of mass.

That is a non-sequitur. It does not not necessarily follow that if there is gravity down at those levels, then gravity is a product of mass.

[Peron]

Hi Peron (or should that be 'viva'?) and welcome aboard.
You wrote:

Is there gravity at the cellular level, or even the atomic level, or sub-atomic?
If there is then gravity is a by product of mass.

That is a non-sequitur. It does not not necessarily follow that if there is gravity down at those levels, then gravity is a product of mass.

Let me rephrase.

Matter is a anomaly that isn't supposed to exist. And since matter is an anomaly then gravity is a anomaly of matter.

Lets go back to the beginning, space in its purest form some call it Ether. Now Ether is just laying there like space does, then something happens and it
begins to bond and forms matter, which isn't supposed to happen. Then from there planets stars galaxies form.
I think this has nothing to do with the topic but who cares.

[Influx]

Let me rephrase.

Matter is a anomaly that isn't supposed to exist. And since matter is an anomaly then gravity is a anomaly of matter.

Lets go back to the beginning, space in its purest form some call it Ether. Now Ether is just laying there like space does, then something happens and it
begins to bond and forms matter, which isn't supposed to happen. Then from there planets stars galaxies form.
I think this has nothing to do with the topic but who cares.

Pure speculation, no basis in the observable reality whatsoever.

Instead why not try to understand this anomaly or fact. Light is not effected by magnetic or electric fields, however if a polished piece of steel is put into a strong magnetic field and a beam of light shone on surface of the metal piece, the reflected beam will be rotated in such a way that its plane of polarization is changed. If the magnet is removed the light is reflected from the same metal surface with out change! Even Faraday did this experiment, with glass and magnetic fields. If the glass is inside a strong magnetic field the light going through it will be rotated on its plane of polarization! I guess I should add light, to gravity, electric and magnetic fields as being completely not understood!

For example if light spreads out in a sphere from its emission source, the strength of light drops as it spreads out tho cover the sphere. The farthest light source seen so far is claimed to be 15 billion light years from us! How can light still be seen after traveling and expanding for 15 billion years? The 50 thousand watt radio station on earth, its signal dissipates to undetectable level in something like 200 miles! And yet light, which is claimed by modern physicists, to be an em wave, can still be detected after 15 billion light years! On the other hand, if light is a particle, what would the particle density be after 15 billion years when it arrives on earth? Yet we still can see starlight as if it had originated in our living room!

[Peron]

All science is speculation

You cannot see individual stars 15 billions light years away!

It also depends on how luminous the light source is.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _field.jpg

[Influx]

Science is not speculation, it is a group of hypothesizes that are supported by physical observable and measurable phenomenon in nature. If you have an idea, a theory or a hypothesis but no way to test it, it is no more than a fantasy!

[Peron]

Science isn't only about what you can test. It is also about what you observe.

I see the universe as a huge anomaly.

[Influx]

Hmm, opinions do not constitute science!

[Influx]

I see myself as an anomaly.

[Influx]

My search for gravity control continues. Here is a interesting link, satellites around the van der graf generator!

http://books.google.com/books?id=RPWNfd ... #PPA183,M1

Isn't the sun a giant pseudo van der graf generator? Could it be this simple. Gravity is an electrostatic phenomena. Wow.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2602893/Midge ... -Generator <<< Scroll to the last page, at the bottom read the "Satellites in Orbit" paragraph. Amazing.

This should be tested in vacuum, if it still works, we know what gravity is!?

http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/2 ... 035927.php

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf112/sf112p14.htm

http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazi ... sters.html

We know that flux ropes in space have long range attraction and short range repulsion.

http://www.plasma-universe.com/index.ph ... -graph.png

So why not the some action between the sun and earth? Or other planets. All are charged bodies!

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1998/TreshaEdwards.shtml

The Earth's Electrostatic Charge

Tesla's intent was to condense the energy trapped between the earth and its upper atmosphere and to transform it into an electric current. He pictured the sun as an immense ball of electricity, positively charged with a potential of some 200 billion volts. The earth, on the other hand, is charged with negative electricity. The tremendous electrical force between these two bodies constituted, at least in part, what he called cosmic energy. It varied from night to day and from season to season but it is always present.

The positive particles are stopped at the ionosphere and between it and the negative charges in the ground, a distance of 60 miles, there is a large difference of voltage - something on the order of 360,000 volts. With the gases of the atmosphere acting as an insulator between these two opposite stores of electrical charges, the region between the ground and the edge of space traps a great deal of energy. Despite the large size of the planet, it is electrically like a capacitor which keeps positive and negative charges apart by using the air as a non-conducting material as an insulator.

The earth has a charge of 96,500 coulombs. With a potential of 360,000 volts, the earth constitutes a capacitor of .25 farads (farads = coulombs/volts). If the formula for calculating the energy stored in a capacitor (E =1/2CV2) is applied to the earth, it turns out that the ambient medium contains 1.6 x 1011 joules or 4.5 megawatt-hours of electrical energy. In order to utilize this high-voltage energy you must do two things -- make an energy sink and then devise a way of making the "sink" oscillate.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:UW8 ... cd=7&gl=us

Electrons are charged bodies, and so are protons, could the same laws that apply to Birkeland currents, repulsion and attraction, at the atomic level? Earth is kept around the sun by its short range repulsion and long range attraction? And so are atoms? It would seem that the electrostatics have been ignored just like plasma, or are they one and the same?

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/60

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/ ... tation.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRBAPd7N0IE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnPEgV_G ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2uuQVJQgfY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9GU3Xpi ... re=related

So why are we stuck to the ground?

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... acitor.htm

http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/earth_charge.htm

http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNe ... thCap.html

We are in side the capacitor! That would make us the dielectric! What does the dielectric experience in side a capacitor? http://www.daviddarling.info/encycloped ... ctric.html

http://www.millersville.edu/~jdooley/ma ... /polel.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dielectric_model.svg

ELECTRIC POLARIZATION! Is that gravity!? Whoa. Any scientist out there who wants to take a look at my humble musings? Or any one, help me out here! So gravity may be the result of two different things. On the surface of a planet, it might simple be electric polarization and, in space; the em rules that governs plasma! Haha, what we call gravity here on earth, may not even exist in space! Only em repulsion and attraction! The same principals that governs plasma in space might also govern how celestial bodies interact.

[junglelord]

I have said it before and I will say it again...way to go, excellent post.
Your there and now you see that Electrostatics is not EM and the two are not the same.
What one knows about Plasma, hydrogen, ES Charge, EM Charge will be about all the universe is.....


Gravity is overcome via Birkeland Magnetic Tubes (Birkeland Current) via relativistic Mercury Plasma and a leading edge that is positively charged ala TT Brown.

[Influx]

I wonder, though, does the planets capacitance, inductance and resistance to the Birkeland Current, determine its orbit and how for away it is located from the sun.

[junglelord]

There is an electric resonance to the entire solar system and every individual speck of dust...all the way up to the quantum entangled universe. The electric resonance is based on both inductance, capacitance in common tank ciruits.

[webolife]

It is easier to question the resonance of the solar system if you ignore the beautiful order and geometric stability of the planets. Bode's Rule catches the symmetry but doesn't explain it. There is no reason why, from a nebular hypothesis [gravitation only] viewpoint, the planets should be so arranged. The planetary orbits [semimajor axes, aphelia] line up with the harmonics on a musical instrument. Even their colors can be predicted based on this orderly pattern. Note the colors of Neptune and Earth in comparison to the other planets, for example. I have a document by my late mentor, Robert Archer Smith, showing the ratios of planetary masses as a function of their semimajor axes. And gravitation-only explanations cannot account for the "anomalous" [not for EU?] planetary angular momentum issues that have been discussed elsewhere on these forums. To answer the thread question, gravity, electric and magnetic forces, along with atomic/nuclear forces... and light!... are all manifestations of the unified force field... RA Smith called it the T-force [from T for time's arrow = entropy = centropy], Thomson calls it the G-Force, TT describes it in terms of ropes, etc. but so far all the really "good" ideas IMHO recognize the fractal geometry and scalelessness/scalability of the key dynamic factors.