Secrets of the Aether, Questions and Answers

[bboyer]

Personally, I think we got a genuine case of Prickles and Goo. Now nobody should feel offended by it, it's just the way it seems to work. It's fine to be prickly and fine to be goo. As long as we try to remember we are trying to describe the same universe from our own perspective. I usually seem to be goo, but I'm trying very hard to be prickly goo. As APM seems to have some good ideas so does Thread-theory. But when I take K. Meyl's book in hand, I seem to find ideas somewhat consistent with both. Imagine my schizophrenic dichotomy

Thank you, Stefan. Personally, I, too, think that is precisely the situation as well re the prickly-goo.

And I find it refreshing to be able to read intelligent, friendly discussion of the issues from such brilliant minds without the added, inapplicable distractions of personality-based baits and taunts. Thank you all.

[junglelord]

137, the fine structure constant of the e- is actually the Unified Charge Equation which directly results in the Unified Field Theory. The fine structure constant is a factor of the EM to the ES charge geometry.
http://www.16pi2.com/files/NewFoundationPhysics.pdf

In Meyls work the ES charge is not quantified. At best structurally it is replaced by the innear positron expanding vortex. However there is no encapsulated primary angular momentum. While the dual vortex of Meyl at first glance has several structural relationships that are similar to APM, it is not the same.

Neither is the Tempic Field of Smith the same. Primary Angular Momentum is not quantified nor is ES except in a general way. Aether is replaced by the Tempic field. However I often use the two to try to help others see that there is more then one way to see the cat. That does not make them equal however. But they are different ways to see the same thing.

The Scalar Technology and Scalar Field Theory of Meyl is excellent as it is complimenatry via my Comparative Methodology as is the Tempic Field and the work of Blazelabs and Treeincarnation. This is something I have said a million times over arc-us. So a little support for my comparative methodology would be nice.

Having said that, no one except BlazeLabs has taken the time to reorganize the units.
Blazelabs by implementing a system like the ST system of units which regards both space and time as complex 7D vector entities.

APM has kept the original SI Units and taken the quantum route.

Blaze Labs also went quantum with Plancks Constant and made many remarkable conclusions from that constant.
In this respect Blazelabs and APM are unique. The re-organization will expel many so called restrictions and will
also reveal many hidden properties right in the measurements themself based on simple algebra once reorganized.

From this Comparison of Methodology I can directly relate Fuller Synergetics and the I/O Sphere of Treeincarnation with the Platonic Solids to Valence Band Electron Configurations via distributed Charge. Sacred Geometry is not a dirty word. Nor is the context of reorganization of Math. Harmony Math is based on PHI, Pi, e. Nature is based on PHI, Pi, e.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... f=8&t=1097

The reorganization of Blazelabs and APM was over due since the 1930's. Study the history of electrogravitics and TT Brown and watch the work of Tesla. A capactior is electrogravitic. The Positive Pole creates a warp in S/T as does the Negitive Pole. The Positive Pole warps and conferges S/T while the Negitive warps and diverges S/T. The negitive always chases the positive. This is electrogravitics. Each atom is a Biefeld/Brown device. This is classified. Notice that all this operational technology and theory went classifed circa 1935. The world has been dumbed down from Heaviside ever since. The work that I am fortunate enough to witness is the line by line examination of Maxwells original papers via the knowledge of APM. The first thing that came out was that Scalar Longitudinal EM energy and transmission via Aether is real. Tesla and Bearden, Dollard, Meyl, Jungleord were right. Transverse EM is peanuts in comparison to Scalar Technology. I can only say that the world is being held back.

The Impulse Magnifying Transmitter was a Theta/Z Pinch as I first said. It is Star Power and a Star Machine.
Tesla made a Scalar Star Machine before 1900. Took over 100 years for me to point that out to the EU.
Although he finally got a Thunderblog
http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblo ... t_sd42.htm
It fails to mention the important facts I have stated.
Maxwell is important, Heaviside is a dumbdown.
Scalar Technology is right in the quaternions of Maxwell.
The Scalar Impulse Magnifying Transmitter is a Theta/Z Pinch, a true Star Machine.
That an EU needs a new organization of Math, Measurements, Classified Technology.


As concerning what is right and wrong and theories.
Dave Thomson has earned the Nobel Prize for his work in more areas then I can imagine.
Its impossible for APM to be wrong as the SI Units themself are APM
http://www.16pi2.com/files/NewFoundationPhysics.pdf
http://www.16pi2.com/

[skyfish]

It is possible that dark energy, gravity and the aether are one and the same.

http://www.physorg.com/news148659036.html


"This result could be described as 'arrested development of the universe'," said Alexey Vikhlinin of the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, Mass., who led the research. "Whatever is forcing the expansion of the universe to speed up is also forcing its development to slow down."

The study strengthens the evidence that dark energy is the cosmological constant. Although it is the leading candidate to explain dark energy, theoretical work suggests it should be about 10 raised to the power of 120 times larger than observed. Therefore, alternatives to general relativity, such as theories involving hidden dimensions, are being explored.

This makes sense if you view the universe as a pressurized quantum bubble, with dark energy driving the expansion and creating the force of gravity.

skyfish

[junglelord]

I do not see how skyfish. Gravity would never be the Aether. Dark Matter/Energy is Electricity. The EU is clear about those things and I think thats important. The church of cosmologys dark matter/energy is a cosmology devoid of EM. Electricity accounts for the so called dark matter/energy. The EU has shown that very clearly. No one thinks gravity is the aether. No one I have ever read or talked too. Aether does cause gravity however. The current redshift theory is not correct as explained in the EU. Arp has shown convincingly that redshift is a process of new matter vs older matter. I can swing with that.

[skyfish]

Hi Junglelord,
You wrote:
Aether does cause gravity however

I can swing with that! I think mostly this is just a terminology issue, and that we agree
on the underlying principles. I also think that we have to consider that primary angular
momentum is coming from somewhere, and it is possibly dimensional in nature.
What is you opinion of Bearden's statement that aether energy is actually the
product of the dimension of time?

skyfish

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

It is possible that dark energy, gravity and the aether are one and the same.

Hi skyfish,

Imho, it is.

You have elaborated on how the effect gravity is created in your quote below, this substantiates your statement on "are one and the same."

This makes sense if you view the universe as a pressurized quantum bubble, with dark energy driving the expansion and creating the force of gravity.
skyfish

Your above statement makes sense, you have simply summarized a universe with the presence of an all pervasive aether; this is the clarified Gforce in APM. However, like how JL have mentioned, dark energy (aka cosmological constant) is poorly understood, and share the sentiment with JL that gravity cosmology should be rewritten, by reinstating the denounced aether.

Nevertheless, dark energy is factually observed, despite it has been misrepresented by Heaviside. The perception of rising Sun from below the horizon is now a scientifically understood relative motion illusion that the effect is caused by a rotating Earth; an understood cognitive paradox. In the flat world era this cognitive paradox was not understood, therefore all the misconceptions are as a result of a cognitive fallacy. The consensus for the fact of rising Sun with Geocentric model adopted in flat world era is wrong; the fact is false.

On this note JL, although the Geocentric model is wrong on rising Sun phenomenon, the existence of Sun is factually observed and this is immutable.

[kevin]

Vincent wee-foo,
Your spiral avator.
What if it is a representational of what occurs around each sphere in space?
Of course that would be in 3D , not just 2D as your avator.
Then imagine if the Earth had a dual such spiral, as does the sun, and that You the observer wherever You are SEE via these pathways, not in a linear line, as ASSUMED.
Would it then be possible to imagine an illusion, a sort of trick of sight, where the sun as observed is not moving, as ASSUMED?
In exactly the self same way, when two people stand a distance apart and look each other eye to eye, is the pathway/s taking exactly the self same type of dual circuler pathway?
Kevin

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Vincent wee-foo,
Your spiral avator.
What if it is a representational of what occurs around each sphere in space?
Of course that would be in 3D , not just 2D as your avator.

Hi Kevin,

Imho, it is.

However, I would use the term spheroid instead, for nothing in space is perfect sphere. Subjected to vortical interactions, the spheroid in space with an inherent spherical tendency could be transformed to have a shape of oblate, stretched oblate (prolate-like), torus or flattened as a multiple-core disc.

Then imagine if the Earth had a dual such spiral, as does the sun, and that You the observer wherever You are SEE via these pathways, not in a linear line, as ASSUMED.
Would it then be possible to imagine an illusion, a sort of trick of sight, where the sun as observed is not moving, as ASSUMED?

It is possible to imagine the illusion by locking into the reference frame with the motion of Sun, in synchronized motion with the Sun, the Sun would be observed as not moving. Like you have put it, this is "a sort of trick of sight", the process would create a cognitive paradox of relative motion that everything else moves around a stationary Sun.

In exactly the self same way, when two people stand a distance apart and look each other eye to eye, is the pathway/s taking exactly the self same type of dual circuler pathway?
Kevin

Just a conjecture based on vortical dynamics; the pathway would be a dual helix, albeit the wavelength is very long that the dual helix is almost perfect linear lines in a short distance with negligible phase shift.

[kevin]

Vincent wee-foo,
Hello to you too, V wee-foo, You probaly don't remember boo-boo?
I consider that are dominant senses are short distance survival senses, and that over huge distances these senses are fooled by the illusion of movement/s, over extreme long distances this perhaps unwinds as such?

Also because the aether is all permeating, we again have been fooled into the illusion again of it not existing, it is everything, and only turns into matter and mass at the geometric points that enable it to turn into matter and mass, metiorites and such are not fragments of a destroyed larger mass, but are new mass forming on fractal geometry produce about the larger points, and are led into the mass upon the geometry streaming inwards upon implosion into mass, they will electrically discharge on meeting the opposite out going spirals , much more than simply heating up omn encountering atmosphere.
They will not be attracted by gravity, as gravity will not exist , except as a consequence of the net implosion into mass.
The comets will simerally be imploding and creating mass as they appear to move in space , they will not be moving , it is an illusion of the aether flowing in the opposite direction to the apparent movement, hence the tail is light in advance of the comet, not trailing it.
All my little opinion .
kevin

[Grey Cloud]

Hi Kevin,
You wrote:

Also because the aether is all permeating, we again have been fooled into the illusion again of it not existing, it is everything, and only turns into matter and mass at the geometric points that enable it to turn into matter and mass, ...

Brilliant.

And for any nay-sayers who happen to be passing by, before you roll out the old 'how do you get the material from the non-material' refrain: the answer is that you don't. There is no 'material' - it is a false dichotomy. There is only the 'non-material' - All is Mind; the Universe is mental. It is Mind which dictates (Wills) the flow of the Stuff on Kevin's lattice. It is Mind which dictates how and when something 'physical' will manifest. And there is only one Mind but it has many thoughts.
Life is but a dream....

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Vincent wee-foo,
Hello to you too, V wee-foo, You probaly don't remember boo-boo?
I consider that are dominant senses are short distance survival senses, and that over huge distances these senses are fooled by the illusion of movement/s, over extreme long distances this perhaps unwinds as such?

Greeting kevin. Sorry I don't remember or can recall anything relating to boo-boo, do I know you?

Over longer distance our visual would have lost the depth field in our perception, this results in optical ambiguities for distance observation, and coupled with relative motion illusions of nature, in delusions our senses would be fooled by such cognitive paradoxes. Over extreme long distances, observations of natural phenomena limited by light speed, the inversed illusions become even more complex and counterintuitive.

Also because the aether is all permeating, we again have been fooled into the illusion again of it not existing, it is everything, and only turns into matter and mass at the geometric points that enable it to turn into matter and mass,

Imho, you have got it fundamentally correct .

Just to mention that mass is merely the measurement for amount of matter, the effect of inertial force (aka fictitious force).

metiorites and such are not fragments of a destroyed larger mass, but are new mass forming on fractal geometry produce about the larger points, and are led into the mass upon the geometry streaming inwards upon implosion into mass, they will electrically discharge on meeting the opposite out going spirals , much more than simply heating up omn encountering atmosphere.

This I don't know.

They will not be attracted by gravity, as gravity will not exist , except as a consequence of the net implosion into mass.

This is an ingenious way to describe the effect of aether that renders the effect of gravity. And yes, based on on aether model, the effect of gravity is not an attractive force.

The comets will simerally be imploding and creating mass as they appear to move in space , they will not be moving , it is an illusion of the aether flowing in the opposite direction to the apparent movement, hence the tail is light in advance of the comet, not trailing it.
All my little opinion .
kevin

I assume you are fixing a reference frame on the comet in your description to account the dynamics for gas tail of comet, you probably know that comet revolves around Sun in factual observation. Conventional knowledge explains that it is the radiating solar wind (plasma) that causes the gas tail to point away from the direction of Sun. However, there were observations with gas jets sprouting in many directions mysteriously from some comets that defies the solar wind hypothesis, such as Comet Biela.

Comet Biela.

My worldview for the gas tail of comet based on the all permeating aether, it is a vortical event that has occurred within its plasmatic Coma at near encounter with Sun. I have an article on gas and dust tail on comet that explains this cognitive paradox, you might be interested to have a look on how the illusion could have caused the misconception.

Best to you.

[kevin]

Vincent wee-foo,
I doubt We have ever met, but I am most seriously pleased to make your aquatience over this strange electronic medium.
I am showing my age with reference to boo boo, he was Yogi's side kick.
Yogi used to greet boo boo with,
" hello to you too boo boo"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMZF4v_2lj8

Your name reminded of that saying, which was used between friends of my age.
Thank you for the link, and the comet, We have much to re-learn about this wonderfull electric universe, it's a truly magical place.
kevin

[junglelord]

I got a special treat. I have a long document that is a inital tear down of Maxwells Paper "A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field."

My initial investigations into Tesla demonstrated that his Scalar Longitudinal EM work and his device the Impulse Magnifying Transmitter Receiver three coil system is a Scalar Z/Theta Pinch and is there in the work of Maxwell. Heaviside took that away with his 4 Vector Reduction. The Scalar Systems are faster the c and work as a Quantum Entanglement system. Tesla was doing this 1898! Maxwell showed many things that are hidden today.

However Maxwell made some serious errors concerning dimensional analysis. Quaternions analysis while 4-D, still needs to be properly equated. Everyone needs to read the Original Works and actually with a critical eye, or how else do you know that what was taken as Gospel is actually infact the Truth?

It goes to show you that even Dave thought it must be correct, but when he acutally went through it all, well its not. I can not really share anymore then this quote at this time.

Below is a rough draft for my commentary on Maxwell's paper. It will be a very long paper since I have included the full text of Maxwell's paper along with my comments. At first, I had the belief that Maxwell knew what he was doing and approached his work from that perspective. But now that I am well into the foundation of his math, I can see he has some serious issues. Maxwell's paper would not have been accepted by today's standards.

Dave Thomson

On October 27, 1864, J. Clerk Maxwell submitted "A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field."
http://www.zpenergy.com/downloads/Maxwell_1864_1.pdf

We will show the Aether Physics Model from the perspective of Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism.

In the Aether Physics Model, each quantum particle is quantified as an Aether unit encapsulating primary angular momentum. The Aether unit is the source of charge for the particle, but also the empty Aether units surrounding the particle still contain electric and magnetic dipoles as seen in the image below.





As explained in the APM, the double loxodrome structure represents the electromagnetic charge, while the + and - signs represent the locations of spherical electrostatic charge. Maxwell and his contemporaries did not recognize that magnetism and electrostatics each existed as the result of two distinctly different manifestations of charges.

[altonhare]

There is no 'material'

Is the official view of APM?

[junglelord]

That is the offical view of both science and APM and the EU.
All material is only charge at the quantum level.
There are no solids, no particles and no material at the quantum level.
That is quite true and always has been.

Only you seem to believe that material is real at that level.
I believe you call them ropes? Material ropes is your label.

We do not buy that. Charge is not material.
Never was, never will be.
Material is charge at the quantum level, that is by nature non material.