The Galilean Moons

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The Galilean Moons

Post by nick c » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:37 am

I would like to point out an error in todays tpod, April 30, 2010, The Galilean Moons:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/ ... 0moons.htm


It must be noted that the Galilean Moons are part of the Jovian system not the Saturnian system.
At the beginning of the paper the moons are correctly assigned to Jupiter:
A collection of the largest moons in the Solar System are in orbit around the largest planet.
Looking separately at Jupiter's four largest moons, it would be difficult to identify them as members of the same family.
But then later in the tpod, they are placed in the Saturnian system:
Electric Universe advocates assert that Saturn moves within the Sun's plasmasphere and interacts with the Sun’s electric field. Planets and moons in the Solar System are charged bodies, they are not isolated in “empty” space. Since Ganymede, Europa, Io, and Callisto all move within the plasmasphere of Saturn, it is only to be expected that they would transact electrically with their primary
So, "Jupiter" should be substituted for "Saturn" in the above quote.

It is a shame to see Steve Smith's fine paper diminished by a minor oversight, which has no bearing on the overall point of the tpod.
Could this error be corrected by an edit?

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Re: The Galilean Moons

Post by jjohnson » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:27 am

Nick, I see your point but I think Steve was relating the Saturn moon system to Jupiter's, and noting that there should be electromagnetic similarities in their interactions with their primaries. The transition was just made without explanation, which did sort of leave the reader hanging.

When I read astronomers' assignment of volcanism (or is it vulcanism?) to observed phenomena on our moon or other moons and planets, where we have inferred electric effects from other similarities during electrical events, I just smile. I mean, what else can you do? They have never identified an actual volcanic event in action other than on our planet. (Peratt put the Io explanation to rest with his plasma focus interpretation in my book), and they seem to be admitting that the "geysers" on Enceladus are not actually quite like Old Faithful geeyser in Yellowstone Park, but are composed of ionized particles being ejected at greater than escape velocity against E's weak gravity, into the E-ring which is a plasma torus. Active volcanoes have not been identified on hot Venus, nor on hotter Mercury, not on our quiescent moon, nor on other moons, either.

It's like stars' running into one another. Often claimed, never once shown to occur. Never. Nice in theory, but Reality doesn't read "The Daily Theory", so it's up to the rest of us to decide what is real, and what's not. I just got a little paperback (thanks for the tip, Steve!!, The Virtue of Heresy by Hilton Ratcliffe. I am into it several pages and already know that this astronomer works hard to stand back and take a good hard look at the reality of observations and to compare them with the theorists' explanations, many of which are found wanting. Highly recommended.

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Re: The Galilean Moons

Post by solrey » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:40 am

Might want to check that out again, Jim.
Since Ganymede, Europa, Io, and Callisto all move within the plasmasphere of Saturn,
Ganymede, Europa, Io, and Callisto are the Galilean moons of Jupiter. I've seen 'em live and magnified.
I know it's just a faux pas on Steve's part but I agree with Nick that it ought to be fixed up.

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Re: The Galilean Moons

Post by starbiter » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:23 am

This is in reference to Jim's comment about volcanism. If basalt can be created electrically, from sediment on the surface of planets and moons as i suspect, a lot less volcanoes are required. Most of the volcanoes blamed for the basalt in the western US are missing in action. No trace of the little buggers. They've completely vanished. But the experts know they HAD to be there. How else can you explain the basalt.

So the basalt on Venus might be caused by plasma events, on the surface of the planet/comet.

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Re: The Galilean Moons

Post by jjohnson » Sat May 01, 2010 9:35 am

:oops:
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Re: The Galilean Moons

Post by nick c » Sat May 01, 2010 10:19 am

Note: correction has been made.
Since Ganymede, Europa, Io, and Callisto all move within the plasmasphere of Jupiter,

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/ ... 0moons.htm
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