Is Lightning the Strongest Creative Force?

[mague]

Logic and most probably a good part of our brains synapses and evolution form a hirarchic structure.
http://www.uni-koeln.de/rrzk/kompass/74 ... rame_5.gif

In german flash of inspiration is Gesitesblitz. Literally translated Mindlightning. A lightening bolt is running through a complex hirarchic structure. At the bifurcations it is taking the way it is taking. Almost like a miracle. It is impossible to see why it decides like it does at the forkings. A tiny lightening is enligthening a certain, sometimes very complex path from the beginning to the end. The end is usually the complete understanding/transcendence of something that was prior in the dark.

We are left with two possible conclusions. Either the creator of the lightning is intelligent or the lightning itself.
Denying an external source of the bolt turn you, subjective, into the highest being possible.

[StevenJay]

Either the creator of the lightning is intelligent or the lightning itself.
Denying an external source of the bolt turn you, subjective, into the highest being possible.

Intersting, mague! I've never really thought about it in those terms. I think I know what you mean in that last sentence, but I'm not sure. Could you clarify it a bit?

[mague]

Either the creator of the lightning is intelligent or the lightning itself.
Denying an external source of the bolt turn you, subjective, into the highest being possible.

Intersting, mague! I've never really thought about it in those terms. I think I know what you mean in that last sentence, but I'm not sure. Could you clarify it a bit?

Hello,

the topic is vast, i ll try to keep it simple and short.

You try to build a water wheel to power your mill. You are the first to build a waterwheel, you cant use existing knowledge. Ofc. there is some thinking and planning involved. But in the end there is try and error. How many shovels, size of shovel, angle of the shovels. Which wood to use, how to fix the shovels. And so on and on. You are slowly working through a hirarchic structure of possibilities. It may require many iterations and a few steps back to re-iterate. In the end you eventually build a higly effective and stable wheel. You found the best possible path through the hirarchic sturture regarding a waterwheel.

You most probably will be proud, you found the path on your own. You are the creator of the wheel. This will raise self-confidence and, depending on your psyche and a few other parameters, will have an effect on your ego.

What we miss here is where did the idea come from ? Your waterwheel is the first and only, an original idea. Which, what, who ignited the first point in the hirarchic structure ? And who created the (3D) grid where the points of the hirarchic sturture are located on ?

The longer you successfully create new gadgets, the more you, especially your ego, will start to think that you are the creator of it. But in many, many cases we didnt ignite the first spot, we filled the path from ignition point to the finished gadget. If we think to be the creator, we lock ourselves away from novelty, from new ignitions. From ignitions that got fired up from an external power. We enter a "god-less" state of mind. (God-less not exactly in religious context. Just ignorance or denial of any external force.)

On the other side we could investigate the ignition and the path through the hirarchic structure itself. We may observe that, if we dont interfere, the ignition will find its way through the hirarchic sturture on its own. A good example is a quote from W.A. Mozart.

I do not compose the music. It is already there and i just have to write it down.

We then may come to the conclusion that either the creator of the enligthenment or the the lightening itself is of superior intelligence.

[Grey Cloud]

Hi Mague,
That's more or less what I have been trying to tell you in the other thread.

The ten thousand things carry yin on their backs
and hold yang in their arms.
Existence depends on the two.

Tao Te Ching 42.
Bart Marshall trans.

We move forward creating (yang) but we draw on the resources (yin) of the Universe to do it.

J.K. Rowling said the Harry Potter story came into her head during a train journey from Manchester to London. And a damned fine alchemical tale it is too.

[StefanR]

I know it is a typo, but it will be the first time and probably the last time I will be able to correct a German is his German

In german flash of inspiration is Gesitesblitz

Aber das war ein Geistesblitz, mein freund Mague!
Schade, aber jetzt wird es gut mal sein


Tjuus

[Grey Cloud]

I know it is a typo, but it will be the first time and probably the last time I will be able to correct a German is his German

In german flash of inspiration is Gesitesblitz

Aber das war ein Geistesblitz, mein freund Mague!
Schade, aber jetzt wird es gut mal sein


Tjuus

EU = Electric Universe not European bloody Union.

[mague]

Hey, i am halluzinating a lot. Thats why my left-right side coordination is sometimes out of sync and my left hand ist typing faster then my right hand Writing in two languages doesnt help a bit

There is better stuff.

A loong time ago people could meet their king face to face. This was usually Thursday where you could tell your king that your freaking neighbour was stealing your cherries. Good times without lawyers back then In german its Donnerstag. Literally Thundersday. Because king was maybe thundering a bit at the cherry thief. Next day is Friday. In german Freitag, literally Freeday. The day you either sat in kings dungeon or not Thuesday is Dienstag, literally Serviceday. The day you work for the king, so he will judge well and righteous. Wednesday is nothing special. Mittwoch is literally Middle of the week

I was wondering if i could get an audience with the current pharao next Thursday... because taxes are way beyond 1/7 and there are hints that his bureaucrats are working into their own pockets.

[bboyer]

I know it is a typo, but it will be the first time and probably the last time I will be able to correct a German is his German

In german flash of inspiration is Gesitesblitz

Aber das war ein Geistesblitz, mein freund Mague!
Schade, aber jetzt wird es gut mal sein


Tjuus

EU = Electric Universe not European bloody Union.

No comment from the arrogant, insular, and uncouth Yank side of the pond.

[mague]

I know it is a typo, but it will be the first time and probably the last time I will be able to correct a German is his German

In german flash of inspiration is Gesitesblitz

Aber das war ein Geistesblitz, mein freund Mague!
Schade, aber jetzt wird es gut mal sein


Tjuus

EU = Electric Universe not European bloody Union.

No comment from the arrogant, insular, and uncouth Yank side of the pond.

You non-EuroU guys got that wrong.

In the region where i live the shit has hit the fan since forever. Not long ago one town was prussian and the next was austrian and the next after that prussian again. In between the castle-like catholic monesteries with god-like powers and our own lords and ladies. Then came Napoleon, the Nazis, the french and US troups.

That all left traces in the language. There are still many words active from Napoleons occupation. Then there was Goethe, Hegel, Kant and Schiller. Lots of words Enough to supply the US. with those they dont have themselves like Zeitgeist, Stau etc. ect.

The brits have been an coherent empire since almost forever. I think the bristish royals still should be considered as global players. And the americans enjoy their illusion of ultimate freedom.

While our official government has no clue about it, our underground folklore and language holds ancient traces about how to live the art of cultivated and civilized slavery and how to serve many masters without loosing idendity and sanity I though i share that, you guys will need it

[StefanR]

Quite, but Mague, you ought not to apologize for the little bit of culture
GreyCloud and Arc-us are just letting their Anglo-Saxon genes play up
By the way, they should not object to a little German, as for Grey Cloud surely must know
his wonderful royalty is as german as can be and for Arc-us I have a Paperclip left of some nice project
but he, that's just history