Comets "Flash" Their Electrical Filaments
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Comets "Flash" Their Electrical Filaments
The evidence keeps stacking up for the electrical nature of comets.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/ ... aments.htm
The picture presented in the TPOD, Cometary Filaments, makes crystal clear the electrical filaments trailing the comet.
This evidence of comets' electrical nature goes along with recent confirmation of "electric tornadoes" connecting the Sun and the Earth and Mercury's electromagnetic nature -- from the surface ("sputtering") to the near-space surrounding it.
It would appear that a theme is emerging of the "Electromagnetic Solar System", of course, the Electric Universe reaches to the farthest corners of the Universe, but hammering on your strongest suite of evidence can help break or at least silence opposition.
Should a post on comets be made, this picture showing the filaments would be an excellent link as evidence.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/ ... aments.htm
The picture presented in the TPOD, Cometary Filaments, makes crystal clear the electrical filaments trailing the comet.
This evidence of comets' electrical nature goes along with recent confirmation of "electric tornadoes" connecting the Sun and the Earth and Mercury's electromagnetic nature -- from the surface ("sputtering") to the near-space surrounding it.
It would appear that a theme is emerging of the "Electromagnetic Solar System", of course, the Electric Universe reaches to the farthest corners of the Universe, but hammering on your strongest suite of evidence can help break or at least silence opposition.
Should a post on comets be made, this picture showing the filaments would be an excellent link as evidence.
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Re: Comets "Flash" Their Electrical Filaments
How obvious is the double helix coming off the back of that body?
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So the filaments are aligned according to the electrical environment within the comet finds itself accompanied by periodic discharges. Which means that the filaments won't 'rotate to stay aligned with the Sun' because they are the product of that new electrical enviroment. The explanatory power of EU is remarkable.Spitzer team members have not yet determined why the twisted threads of material continue to point in the same direction. They remain in the same alignment as they had since their initial formation. Despite several months of travel, they have not rotated to stay aligned with the Sun.
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As it moves away from the Sun, a comet's electrical balance with respect to the outer solar system will be different than when it was on its inward trajectory. If it meets another electrified plasma field of some kind it could begin to discharge again. What more electrically dynamic region than the one that exists around the gas giant planets?
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It seems probable that Holmes 17P is traveling through conductive strands of plasma that are energizing it enough for its "shell" to enter a glow-mode discharge state. The filamentary steamers are significant evidence for that contention.
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Re: Comets "Flash" Their Electrical Filaments
Go back in the Thunderbolts Archives to April 15, 2005: The image of the galactic center. Note the filaments. Everything does scale!

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reduke,rduke wrote:How obvious is the double helix coming off the back of that body?
I agree, the double helix is not obvious with the resolution of the picture, but the filaments in my opinion can be observed. How a "snowball" would give off individual filaments (what band in the electromagnetic spectrum are the green filaments pictured in) is not explained to my satisfaction by the standard model of comet theory.
And apparently scientists trained in the standard theory are not satisfied either.
Could it be that the "Electrical Barrier" is in the process of being broken by standard model cosmologists in piece meal fashion -- in drips and draps that become so obvious over time the "electrical conclusion" finally is inescapable?
Certainly, regarding Mercury and Earth, the electromagnetic dynamics are no longer denied even by NASA. In that sense, the "Electrical Barrier" has already been broken.
NASA knows that electromagnetism pervades the solar system. This is the theme I've been touching on in discussions with other folks -- for the "hard core" conventional astronomers, their response is, "so what?" But the undeniable facts have upset their narrative of an electrically neutral space. There is no ambiguity about electromagnetism being a dynamic component of the solar system. Refrain from telling them gravity doesn't hold the planets in orbit, but every other dynamic is dominated by electromagnetism -- even they know that now.
The idea that space is neutral and only gravity has a role in space dynamics has been smashed.
Now, the trick is to extend this beyond the solar system -- that argument has been won, much to the chagrin of "modern" astronomers. At this point, they are left saying, "yes, but."
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Osmosis,Osmosis wrote:Go back in the Thunderbolts Archives to April 15, 2005: The image of the galactic center. Note the filaments. Everything does scale!![]()
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You are right. I took a look at the picture of the Milky way's galactic center.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... lkyway.htm
Interestingly enough, solrey and I have been making comments over at Universe Today, tough sledding, but solrey has been linking that same picture (a NASA picture in black & white) when discussing so-called "black holes" to refute the notion that "black holes" are some kind of "dark spot" and has commented on all the activity, filaments, and the actual bright spot clearly visible. (The black & white picture doesn't do justice to all the structures in the picture, but linking to TPOD pictures tends to inflame passions.)
Anyhow, the response is almost always muted, as if saying to themselves, "this doesn't look like the "black holes" everybody talks about, I don't have a lot to come back with."
Osmosis, yes, the filaments are visible, although, not dramatically so, like in the comet picture (bigger & better telescopes will surely increase the resolution over time), but still pictures are worth a thousand words, and electromagnetism's demonstrated scale independence is a powerful argument
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You brought up the Birkland currents at the center of the galaxy, Thornhill put a really nice pic in his Thunderblog:
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=7qqsr17q
That was the most dramatic proof to me that the PC/EU guys were right, and the Black Hole guys were wrong. EU's theory predicted what was seen, and the Big Bangers were left saying "Where's the black hole? And what is that twisty thing??"
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=7qqsr17q
That was the most dramatic proof to me that the PC/EU guys were right, and the Black Hole guys were wrong. EU's theory predicted what was seen, and the Big Bangers were left saying "Where's the black hole? And what is that twisty thing??"
Mike H.
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Re: Comets "Flash" Their Electrical Filaments
More comet filaments:
The Project Gutenberg EBook of The Outline of Science, Vol. 1 (of 4), by J. Arthur Thomson
Here's another
Astronomy 110
Actual caption on the following:
Comet Swan
Larger version of Spitzer's Comet Holmes Image
Umm... that was just five minutes right here on Google
Here is the Milky Way's galactic center plasma-focused plasmoid from NRAO
Enjoy!!
The Project Gutenberg EBook of The Outline of Science, Vol. 1 (of 4), by J. Arthur Thomson
Here's another
Astronomy 110
Actual caption on the following:
Comet unknown, but what a beauty.False color version of the previous image that shows enhanced details in fine filaments along the ion tail.- Hyakutake
Comet Swan
Larger version of Spitzer's Comet Holmes Image
Umm... that was just five minutes right here on Google
Here is the Milky Way's galactic center plasma-focused plasmoid from NRAO
Enjoy!!
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Re: Comets "Flash" Their Electrical Filaments
Solar,
Thanks for the links to the additional pictures of the comets and of Sagittarius A.
(After seeing all those various different filtered pictures of Sagittarius A, it's hard to even conceptualize it as a so-called "black hole". The dynamics pictured don't even come close to the word pictures that "modern" astonomy assigns to "black hole" or the various artists' renderings that attempt to pass for reality.)
Thanks for the links to the additional pictures of the comets and of Sagittarius A.
(After seeing all those various different filtered pictures of Sagittarius A, it's hard to even conceptualize it as a so-called "black hole". The dynamics pictured don't even come close to the word pictures that "modern" astonomy assigns to "black hole" or the various artists' renderings that attempt to pass for reality.)
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Here's another good shot of it:
http://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu/re ... ehelix.asp
The article is hilarious by the way, with my favorite part being "Orbiting the black hole like the rings of Saturn, several light years away, is a massive disk of gas called the circumnuclear disk; Morris hypothesizes that the magnetic field lines are anchored in this disk."
"Magnetic field lines are anchored in the disk"... wow. That kid went to college too
So they finally get close up shots and they don't see a black hole. Their circumnuclear disk is NOT seen falling into a gravity well, and (to my untrained eyes) it looks like there are gigatons of energized matter blowing OUT of the center... put the Double Helix Nebula like a cherry on top, and what do you get?
Not a peep from these guys.
Again, to my eyes- this was the biggest bit of proof regarding the rule of Maxwell's Law over Newton's in our galactic core. One can only hope the logic seeps in...
http://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu/re ... ehelix.asp
The article is hilarious by the way, with my favorite part being "Orbiting the black hole like the rings of Saturn, several light years away, is a massive disk of gas called the circumnuclear disk; Morris hypothesizes that the magnetic field lines are anchored in this disk."
"Magnetic field lines are anchored in the disk"... wow. That kid went to college too
So they finally get close up shots and they don't see a black hole. Their circumnuclear disk is NOT seen falling into a gravity well, and (to my untrained eyes) it looks like there are gigatons of energized matter blowing OUT of the center... put the Double Helix Nebula like a cherry on top, and what do you get?
Not a peep from these guys.
Again, to my eyes- this was the biggest bit of proof regarding the rule of Maxwell's Law over Newton's in our galactic core. One can only hope the logic seeps in...
Mike H.
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Re: Comets "Flash" Their Electrical Filaments
mharratsc,mharratsc wrote:Here's another good shot of it:
http://www.physicalsciences.ucla.edu/re ... ehelix.asp
The article is hilarious by the way, with my favorite part being "Orbiting the black hole like the rings of Saturn, several light years away, is a massive disk of gas called the circumnuclear disk; Morris hypothesizes that the magnetic field lines are anchored in this disk."
"Magnetic field lines are anchored in the disk"... wow. That kid went to college too
So they finally get close up shots and they don't see a black hole. Their circumnuclear disk is NOT seen falling into a gravity well, and (to my untrained eyes) it looks like there are gigatons of energized matter blowing OUT of the center... put the Double Helix Nebula like a cherry on top, and what do you get?
Not a peep from these guys.
Again, to my eyes- this was the biggest bit of proof regarding the rule of Maxwell's Law over Newton's in our galactic core. One can only hope the logic seeps in...
Thank you very much
The article is very telling: An electrical analysis & interpretation leaps off the page at the reader -- IF -- one is only willing to apply such an interpretation.
(I realize this is slightly off topic, but in two respects there is a tie-in: The filaments are very visible in the pictures provided in mharratsc's link and the concept of electromagnetism's scale independence is apparent and demonstratable.)
A significant portion of the article is devoted to magnetic fields; as Michael MGmirkin, the moderator has ably and definitively demonstrated, magnetic fields are ONLY generated by supporting and underlying electric currents. (You can't have the "magnetic" without the "electro"
"We know the galactic center has a strong magnetic field that is highly ordered and that the magnetic field lines are oriented perpendicular to the plane of the galaxy," Morris said. "If you take these magnetic field lines and twist them at their base, that sends what is called a torsional wave up the magnetic field lines."
Birkeland currents follow magnetic field lines (even "modern" astronomers acknowledge Birkeland currents run on magnetic field lines from the Sun to the Earth).
But I shall not bore you with what readers, here, already know (but please indulge me a litttle).
A strong, large-scale magnetic field [electric current]... can guide a wind of cosmic rays away from the central region..."
Anytime you read "wind" substitute plasma or more precisely, "charged particle flow".
"Morris has argued for many years that the magnetic field at the galactic center is extremely strong; the research published in Nature strongly supports that view."
Here is the "money" quote in my view: "Orbiting the [plasmoid] like the rings of Saturn [irony], several light years away, is a massive disk of gas [plasma] called the circumnuclear disk; Morris hypothesizes that the magnetic field lines are anchored in this disk. The disk orbits the [plasmoid] approximately once every 10,000 years."
(mharratsc, you are right, Morris's description of "magnetic field lines are anchored in this disk" is childish in its lack of understanding
I submit the "circumnuclear disk" is the scale-independent galactic version of the "electric torus" that has been observed & measured around the Sun, Earth, Saturn, and Jupiter. So, yes, Osmosis, everything does scale ("modern" astronomers are deathly afraid of this scale independent law of electromagnetism)
Make the "electrical" substitutions in terminology and additions of analysis & interpretation and this article describing magnetic fields (electric currents) near the Milky Way's so-called "black hole", read PLASMOID, and you just might be reading a TPOD article (well almost)
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Cheers!Spitzer Catches Star Cooking Up Comet Crystals
Scientists have long wondered how tiny silicate crystals, which need sizzling high temperatures to form, have found their way into frozen comets, born in the deep freeze of the solar system's outer edges. The crystals would have begun as non-crystallized silicate particles, part of the mix of gas and dust from which the solar system developed.
A team of astronomers believes they have found a new explanation for both where and how these crystals may have been created, by using NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope to observe the growing pains of a young, sun-like star. Their study results, which appear in the May 14 issue of Nature, provide new insight into the formation of planets and comets.
The researchers from Germany, Hungary and the Netherlands found that silicate appears to have been transformed into crystalline form by an outburst from a star. They detected the infrared signature of silicate crystals on the disk of dust and gas surrounding the star EX Lupi during one of its frequent flare-ups, or outbursts, seen by Spitzer in April 2008. These crystals were not present in Spitzer's previous observations of the star's disk during one of its quiet periods.
"We believe that we have observed, for the first time, ongoing crystal formation," said one of the paper's authors, Attila Juhasz of the Max-Planck Institute for Astronomy in Heidelberg, Germany. "We think that the crystals were formed by thermal annealing of small particles on the surface layer of the star's inner disk by heat from the outburst. This is a completely new scenario about how this material could be created."
Annealing is a process in which a material is heated to a certain temperature at which some of its bonds break and then re-form, changing the material's physical properties. It is one way that silicate dust can be transformed into crystalline form.
Scientists previously had considered two different possible scenarios in which annealing could create the silicate crystals found in comets and young stars' disks. In one scenario, long exposure to heat from an infant star might anneal some of the silicate dust inside the disk's center. In the other, shock waves induced by a large body within the disk might heat dust grains suddenly to the right temperature to crystallize them, after which the crystals would cool nearly as quickly.
What Juhasz and his colleagues found at EX Lupi didn't fit either of the earlier theories. "We concluded that this is a third way in which silicate crystals may be formed with annealing, one not considered before," said the paper's lead author, Peter Abraham of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences' Konkoly Observatory, Budapest, Hungary.
EX Lupi is a young star, possibly similar to our sun four or five billion years ago. Every few years, it experiences outbursts, or eruptions, that astronomers think are the result of the star gathering up mass that has accumulated in its surrounding disk. These flare-ups vary in intensity, with really big eruptions occurring every 50 years or so.
The researchers observed EX Lupi with Spitzer's infrared spectrograph in April 2008. Although the star was beginning to fade from the peak of a major outburst detected in January, it was still 30 times brighter than when it was quiet. When they compared this new view of the erupting star with Spitzer measurements made in 2005 before the eruption began, they found significant changes.
In 2005, the silicate on the surface of the star's disk appeared to be in the form of amorphous grains of dust. In 2008, the spectrum showed the presence of crystalline silicate on top of amorphous dust. The crystals appear to be forsterite, a material often found in comets and in protoplanetary disks. The crystals also appear hot, evidence that they were created in a high-temperature process, but not by shock heating. If that were the case, they would already be cool.
"At outburst, EX Lupi became about 100 times more luminous," said Juhasz. "Crystals formed in the surface layer of the disk but just at the distance from the star where the temperature was high enough to anneal the silicate--about 1,000 Kelvin (1,340 degrees Fahrenheit)--but still lower than 1,500 Kelvin (2,240 degrees Fahrenheit). Above that, the dust grains will evaporate." The radius of this crystal formation zone, the researchers note, is comparable to that of the terrestrial-planet region in the solar system.
"These observations show, for the first time, the actual production of crystalline silicates like those found in comets and meteorites in our own solar system," said Spitzer Project Scientist Michael Werner of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "So what we see in comets today may have been produced by repeated bursts of energy when the sun was young."
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Wow.
You know- I read this article before, and I saw it as just more flailing-about-in-the-dark on the parts of the mainstream analysts reported on in the article.
It was only re-reading it again because Redeye requoted it here (and wondering why he re-posted it) that I think I finally realize the pertinence.
If you take:
I"Their study results, which appear in the May 14 issue of Nature, provide new insight into the formation of planets and comets."
Cut out some of the middle and link it to:
"Every few years, it experiences outbursts, or eruptions, that astronomers think are the result of the star gathering up mass that has accumulated in its surrounding disk."
You end up with their admission that planets and comets are born from "eruptions" of a star at high temperature than a cold accumulation of matter from "gravitational eddies"!
It looks to me like the truth is becoming inescapable despite the thick blinders of Denial that have been worn for so long.
Mike H.
You know- I read this article before, and I saw it as just more flailing-about-in-the-dark on the parts of the mainstream analysts reported on in the article.
It was only re-reading it again because Redeye requoted it here (and wondering why he re-posted it) that I think I finally realize the pertinence.
If you take:
I"Their study results, which appear in the May 14 issue of Nature, provide new insight into the formation of planets and comets."
Cut out some of the middle and link it to:
"Every few years, it experiences outbursts, or eruptions, that astronomers think are the result of the star gathering up mass that has accumulated in its surrounding disk."
You end up with their admission that planets and comets are born from "eruptions" of a star at high temperature than a cold accumulation of matter from "gravitational eddies"!
It looks to me like the truth is becoming inescapable despite the thick blinders of Denial that have been worn for so long.
Mike H.
Mike H.
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